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Default Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys! - 12-28-2012, 12:02 PM

If a woman was unmarried, and had no living male relatives, who would she belong to?
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Default Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys! - 12-28-2012, 01:01 PM

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If a woman was unmarried, and had no living male relatives, who would she belong to?
That would depend on the circumstances. If we are talking about a young woman who has become widowed, she should remarry as soon as possible lest she turn into an idle gossip.

1 Tim 5:11-15
11 But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry;
12 Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.
13 And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not.
14 I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.
15 For some are already turned aside after Satan.


The church is commanded not to support any widow under 60, and even then only if she has been the wife of one husband. Old sluts can starve. They are no one's problem.

1 Tim 5:9 Let not a widow be taken into the number under threescore years old, having been the wife of one man. Well reported of for good works; if she have brought up children, if she have lodged strangers, if she have washed the saints' feet, if she have relieved the afflicted, if she have diligently followed every good work.

Childless women can also starve, and those who haven't been good hostesses. They belong to no one. Good works aren't necessary for salvation, but they are necessary for a widow to be taken care of by the church.

If a 60+ woman becomes widowed, her next-of-kin must take care of her.

1 Tim 5:4, 8, 16 But if any widow have children or nephews, let them learn first to shew piety at home, and to requite their parents: for that is good and acceptable before God. But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel. If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed.

The church must not support widows who have relatives to take care of them. For some reason, Jesus sidestepped the next-of-kin rule -- one of the privileges of being God. He had four brothers.

Mat 13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

Yet He decided to give His mother to the Apostle John.

Jn 19:26-27 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.

Perhaps He didn't trust His brothers. But Mary must have been 60 or over; had she been 59, Jesus would have told her to remarry. (Mary's age is further proof that Jesus was well in His forties when He died.)

If, however, a widowed woman is over 60, has had only one husband, has born children, done good works, entertained fellow Christians, done good works and helped the poor, then she would belong to the church. The saints would take care of her. Does that answer your question?


Mt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

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If, however, a widowed woman is over 60, has had only one husband, has born children, done good works, entertained fellow Christians, done good works, helped the poor and doesn't have any relatives to look after her, then she would belong to the church.


Mt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

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I completely agree with you True Disciple because modern egalitarians and feminists have completely destroyed our family life, womans wish only sex, carrier and fun instead of children making and home keeping. Our birth rates are very low, therefore we will sometimes be outnumber by Muslims and Latinos with their skyrocketing birth-rates. Back to the Teaching of Holy Bible can still save our Western civilization.


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Default Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys! - 03-11-2013, 01:33 AM

you sir are a stupid man or the crazyest i have ever seen. you twist the words of god to your points.i would never wish another person to hell and you are not an exception. but i must remind you that not everything you say can be right. you are are just a human and humans make mistakes so easily. so now i want you to think about the things you wright and i want you to think of what god stands for and see if they match perfectly. they dont. but what i realy want you to know is i will grow up to be a powerful successful women. and i will not have any man telling me what to do. i am equal to and just as great as any man can be. so to night i will pray and i will pray for you to become a smarter person. and with my last message "#### YOU"
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Default Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys! - 03-11-2013, 01:41 AM

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you sir are a stupid man or the crazyest i have ever seen. you twist the words of god to your points.i would never wish another person to hell and you are not an exception. but i must remind you that not everything you say can be right. you are are just a human and humans make mistakes so easily. so now i want you to think about the things you wright and i want you to think of what god stands for and see if they match perfectly. they dont. but what i realy want you to know is i will grow up to be a powerful successful women. and i will not have any man telling me what to do. i am equal to and just as great as any man can be. so to night i will pray and i will pray for you to become a smarter person. and with my last message "#### YOU"
I agree with much of what you have said. In fact, I think you are making one of these human mistakes right now. How can you pretend to love Jesus when you reject His word without so much as an explanation? You accuse the brethren of twisting scripture, yet you offer no proof of this. You do not appear to have any knowledge of the Bible whatsoever, in fact.

So you refuse to be told what to do? How do you learn?

Also, I do not appreciate the implied vulgarity. It is very typical of an atheist like you.

I do not know of anybody who has wished Hell on anyone else on this forum (aside from the occasional atheist). There are however many instance of people who warn those that are on their way to Hell, according to Biblical doctrine. Could it be you are confusing these things?

Also, I hope you are very successful as a woman. You will need a thick cookbook and a Bible for that.


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Default Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys! - 03-11-2013, 01:46 AM

i just want to say. that there are many ways to interpret the bible.and not everyones is right.when i go to god when i die at least i can tell him that i tried.and i know he will accept me for that.
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i just want to say. that there are many ways to interpret the bible.and not everyones is right. mine prob;y isn't right and im fine with that. cause when i go to god when i die at least i can tell him that i tried. and i know he will accept me for that.
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Default Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys! - 03-11-2013, 02:02 AM

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Donkeys aren't created by God?

Once again you liebrals cannot understand the difference between abuse and training.
im sad to call you a women. stand up for yourself. you arnt a slave! please!!!! i was brought up on god not the bible. please why dont you understand. you are bashing the very people that support you. i wish someday god touches your hart and tells you your worth something more than a slave to a man.
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...i tried. and i know he will accept me for that.
Bible says, "No".

Matthew 7:21 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

It says "doeth", not "tried your very very bestest".

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i was brought up on god not the bible. please why dont you understand.
Why don't you understand that you can't make God up? The only way to know with certainty what He wants us to do is to abide by His Holy Word, which is found in the King James Bible.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

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I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.


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...twist the words of god to your points.i would never wish another person to hell
So why did God create it?

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i just want to say. that there are many ways to interpret the bible
God disagrees:
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i was brought up on god not the bible.
So why do your "opinions" contradict His Inerrant Word? Makes you think, doesn't it?
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Default Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys! - 03-11-2013, 10:25 PM

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Default Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys! - 03-11-2013, 10:37 PM

And feminism is eating away at our godly Western societies!

Have these sinners not read the Word Of God that clearly repeats that women must be subdominant to men? And now they want to go against God's law and be equal? EQUAL?
What shall happen? Soon we'll have women wanting to be presidents?
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Default Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys! - 03-11-2013, 10:43 PM

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...King James...wrote it in Middle English...
Two things wrong here: 1) King James DID NOT write the King James Bible. He commissioned (i.e. paid for) the committees that did, and 2) the King James Bible IS NOT in Middle English.

An explanation I wrote for someone else under the same delusion as you:

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The King James Bible (1611 version) IS NOT in Middle English.

From Wickedpedia: "Middle English describes dialects of English in the history of the English language between the High and Late Middle Ages, or roughly during the three centuries between the late 12th and the late 15th century....The language of England as used after 1470 and up to 1650 is known as Early Modern English."

To illustrate the differences, let's look at a passage from the Bible, first from Wycliffe's 1384 (Middle English), then the KJV1611 (Early Modern English), and finally in Modern English using the Standard King James Version (Pure Cambridge):

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Luke 8:1-3 "1 And it was don aftirward, and Jhesu made iorney by citees and castelis, prechinge and euangelysinge ţe rewme of God,
2 and twelue wiţ him; and summe wymmen ţat weren heelid of wickide spiritis and syknessis, Marie, ţat is clepid Mawdeleyn, of whom seuene deuelis wenten
3 out, and Jone, ţe wyf of Chuse, procuratour of Eroude, and Susanne, and manye oţere, whiche mynystriden to him of her riches."
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Luke 8:1-3 "1 And it came to passe afterward, ţt he went throughout euery citie and village preaching, and shewing the glad tidings of the kingdome of God: and the twelue were with him,
2 And certaine women which had bene healed of euill spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene out of whom went seuen deuils,
3 And Ioanna the wife of Chuza, Herods steward, and Susanna, and many others which ministred vnto him of their substance."
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Luke 8:1-3 "1 And it came to pass afterward, that he went throughout every city and village, preaching and shewing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God: and the twelve were with him,
2 And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils,
3 And Joanna the wife of Chuza Herod's steward, and Susanna, and many others, which ministered unto him of their substance."
As you can see the difference between the 1611 and modern versions amount to a few spelling changes, whereas the actual Middle English of the Wycliffe Bible is incomprehensible gobbledygook to most readers nowadays.

Hope this was informative.

references: Wycliffe 1384: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_English
KJV 1611: http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/...apter=8&verse=
KJV Standard (Pure Cambridge): http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/...apter=8&verse=



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Default Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys! - 03-11-2013, 11:06 PM

I'm a woman and I'm not a property, and if some man try to say something different I don't care. It's not my fault have born woman, so I don't have to pay for something I did with no bad intention in the first place. What you call "feminazism" or that trash you talk is in fact dignity, self steem and character. What a religion says is not my problem and I'm not going to throw my life away just to make a filthy machist happy, I'm not going to stay in home, I'm not going to have 10 children without proper anesthesia, I'm not going to let nobody hurt me and I'm not going to make decisions in my life basing me in what an old book and a group of members of some devilish cult say

If in some future I'm this


or this



That will be only my decision, not a man's, mine, are we clear?

Somebody must put machists in their place before they get out of control

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Default Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys! - 03-11-2013, 11:17 PM

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...It's not my fault have born woman...
If you're Christian, you believe it's God's "fault". He created us, didn't He? Are you implying that He made a mistake?

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...so I don't have to pay for something I did with no bad intention in the first place...
What's the point in sending non-believers to Hell, then?



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Default Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys! - 03-11-2013, 11:59 PM

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If you're Christian, you believe it's God's "fault". He created us, didn't He? Are you implying that He made a mistake?



What's the point in sending non-believers to Hell, then?
Did you read my post at least?
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Default Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys! - 03-12-2013, 12:10 AM

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Did you read my post at least?
Yes. It showed me that you know as much about grammar, spelling and double negatives, as you do about the Bible and Christianity.

Why don't you become Wiccan, so you don't have to apologize for making crap up and basing your faith on lies?



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