[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Many atheists claim that the standards of proof in ancient times were less exacting than today's. This is clearly not so; writings that are old carry with them a certain authority that the modern rabid scribblings of so-called "Freethinkers" do not.

However, in the interests of the Truth, balance and knowledge, I append here a chapter of a book of evidence presented before a court. And who can speak against that? A jury of peers found the case convincing, and no less convincing than the evidence, in the Bible, that is presented today.

Examen of Witches
By Henry Boguet

CHAPTER XII.


Whether such Copulation [with Satan] Exists in the Imagination Only.

[Note: This work is an ancient manuscript drawn from various trials of many of this sect in the district of Saint Oyan de Joux, commonly known as Saint Claude in the county of Burgundy including the procedure to a judge in trials for witchcraft. Henry Boguet, chief Judge in Burgundy, penned this little treatise concerning that which had been done with regard to the miserable sect of people, or witches, in order that all may know the zeal with which the Archbishop of Besancon strove to purge the land of Saint Claude from witches.]

BUT since there are some who maintain that the coupling of which we have just spoken exists in the imagination only, it will be well to say something here on this subject. For some treat the matter with derision, some are doubtful about it, and others firmly believe it to be a fact. St Augustine appears to be among these last, as also St. Thomas Aquinas and several other later learned authorities. But the witches’ confessions which I have had make me think that there is truth in this matter; for they have all admitted that they have coupled with the Devil, and that his semen was very cold; and this is confirmed by the reports of Paul Griliand and the Inquisitors of the Faith. Jacquema Paget added that she had several times taken in her hand the member of the Demon which lay with her, and that it was as cold as ice and a good finger’s length, but not so thick as that of a man.

Thievenne Paget and Antoine Tornier also added that the members of their demons were as long and big as one of their fingers; and Thievenne Paget said, moreover, that when Satan coupled with her she had as much rain as a woman in travail. Françoise Secretain said that, whilst she was in the act, she felt something burning in her stomach; and nearly all witches affirm that this coupling is by no means pleasurable to them, both because of Satan’s ugliness and deformity, and because of the physical pain which it causes them, as we have just said.

The ugliness and deformity lies in the fact that Satan couples with witches sometimes in the form of a black man, sometimes in that of some animal, as a dog or a cat or a ram. With Thievenne Paget and Antoine Tornier, he lay in the form of a black man; and when he coupled with Jacquema Paget and Antoine Gandillon he took the shape of a black ram with horns: François Secretain confessed that her demon appeared sometimes as a dog, sometimes as a cat, and sometimes as a fowl when he wished to have carnal intercourse with her. For all these reasons I am convinced that there is real and actual copulation between a witch and a demon; for what is there to prevent the Devil, when he has taken the form of an animal, from coition with a witch in Toulouse and Paris women have been known to make sexual abuse of a natural dog; and it seems to me quite to the point to refer here to the legends of Pasiphaë and other such women.

Another matter that I must mention, which is as strange as it is true, concerns one Antide Colas of Betoncourt in the district of Baume. She was imprisoned at that place for witchcraft, and it was found when visiting her that she had a hole beneath her navel, quite contrary to nature. This hole was examined on the eleventh of July 1598, by Master Nicolas Milliere of Regnaucourt, Chirurgeon, who thrust his probe deeply into it in the presence of his servant, and of Antoinette Mongin, Jannette Bolet and Claudine Menest rey, who were required to be there as witnesses; and then the witch confessed that her Devil, whom she called Lizabet, had sexual connexion with her through this hole, and her husband through the natural hole; but afterwards, when she was taken by order of the Court to the prison of Dole, and they wished to examine this hole, it was found to be closed up, and there remained nothing but a scar. This woman was burned alive on the twentieth of February, 1599. But who would believe that Satan even lies with witches in prison Yet this woman of whom we havc just told confessed that he did so; as also did Jacquema Paget, who said that the Devil had lain with her three times while she was in prison.

When Satan means to lie with a witch in the form of a man, he takes to himself the body of some man who has been hanged. But even if he has only a body formed from the air, there is still nothing to prevent him from intercourse with a witch; for in that case he makes the body of air so dense that it is palpable (for air is, of itself, palpable), and consequently capable of coi tion with, and even defloration of a woman. And why should not this be easy for him, seeing that he is powerful enough to overthrow a town or a city or a kingdom? And as for his semen, he has but too plentiful a supply, even were there no other source of it, in that which he receives when he acts as a Succubus.

And therefore I thoroughly believe all that has been written of Fauns, Satyrs and woodland gods, which were no more than demons, and were inordinately lustful and lascivious. Also I think that we may consider under this head the stories we are told of the wantonnesses of Numa, and of the nymph Egeria, and of several others whom the poets have particularly mentioned.

Similarly we find in the West Indies that their gods, which they call Cocoto, lay with women and had sexual intercourse with them; unless it was really certain lickerish men who abused them, as Decius Mundus, a Roman knight, whose story Josephus tells in his Antiquities, did to Paulina under pretence of being the God Anubis.

But to return to Françoise Secretain, it is a strange thing that Satan lay with her in the shape of a fowl. I am of opinion that she meant to say a gander instead of a fowl, for that is a form which Satan often takes, and therefore we have the proverb that Satan has feet like a goose. Yet it would be as easy for him to take the shape of a fowl as that of a gander. For we know that he has at different times assumed the shape of a gander. For we know that he has at different times assumed the shape of a dog for the same purpose, and we have two remarkable examples of this: one of a dog, said to be a demon, which used to lift up the robes of the nuns in a convent of the diocese of Cologne in order to abuse them; the other, of certain dogs found on the beds of the nuns of a convent on Mount Hesse in Germany.

I hope this puts paid to any thoughts that Satan does not exist.

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Excellent resource when considering Genesis 6:1-2...

"1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose."

This sounds exactly like Zeus and pagan deities and god-men made from cohabitating with chaste earth women. But we, of course, know the truth--that God the Father really did decide to impregnate Mary to produce Jesus, who is our "Hercules" and who happens not to be gay or a worshipper of reason and other idols.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Not existing is satan's greatest lie. He wants you to be atheists. He wants you to not believe he exists. That's how satan tricks us into following him!

[Brother Shawn]

This is an excellent post Ezekiel Bathfire!

[DimDirk]

Originally Posted by Ezekiel Bathfire

Many atheists claim that the standards of proof in ancient times were less exacting than today's. This is clearly not so; writings that are old carry with them a certain authority that the modern rabid scribblings of so-called "Freethinkers" do not.

However, in the interests of the Truth, balance and knowledge, I append here a chapter of a book of evidence presented before a court. And who can speak against that? A jury of peers found the case convincing, and no less convincing than the evidence, in the Bible, that is presented today.I hope this puts paid to any thoughts that Satan does not exist.

Whilst I am in no way stating that Witches and Satan do not exist does writing from an ancient manuscript put paid to anything? I mean this is not the Bible is it, its justa book written by a man trying to make a buck, you could just as easily put a passage from Bram Stokers Dracula as proof of the existance of dark forces.

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by Bryan'sSacredLiver

Whilst I am in no way stating that Witches and Satan do not exist does writing from an ancient manuscript put paid to anything? I mean this is not the Bible is it, its justa book written by a man trying to make a buck, you could just as easily put a passage from Bram Stokers Dracula as proof of the existance of dark forces.

Go to your library. Which section is Bram Stoker's Dracula in? Is it sold as fact? That's because rather than being eyewitness accounts of real events it is, in fact, totally made up. Stoker himself says it was made up.

How silly you must now feel. Try to get your facts right before making such totally daft points in future.

[DimDirk]

Originally Posted by Redeemed Papist

Go to your library. Which section is Bram Stoker's Dracula in? Is it sold as fact? That's because rather than being eyewitness accounts of real events it is, in fact, totally made up. Stoker himself says it was made up.

How silly you must now feel. Try to get your facts right before making such totally daft points in future.

Can anyone who's viewpoint isn't totally skewed after being raised at the teet of the papal yolk explain to this Italian Satanist why he's wrong?

[LBC loving Dutchmen]

Originally Posted by Bryan'sSacredLiver

Can anyone who's viewpoint isn't totally skewed after being raised at the teet of the papal yolk explain to this Italian Satanist why he's wrong?

I'd advise you to have a more polite tongue when speaking to True Chistians . If you would talk to me like that, that would be acceptable.

[DimDirk]

Originally Posted by LBC loving Dutchmen

I'd advise you to have a more polite tongue when speaking to True Chistians . If you would talk to me like that, that would be acceptable.

As you are a Dutchman, a good protestant land I would never speak to you like that. It is those who have ever fallen under the spell of Rome and its cabal of boy lovers that I would be so sharp with.

[Brother Shawn]

Originally Posted by Bryan'sSacredLiver

Can anyone who's viewpoint isn't totally skewed after being raised at the teet of the papal yolk explain to this Italian Satanist why he's wrong?

Bryan, You should NEVER talk to a True Christian™ like that. They are chosen people of the Lord and Savior. You are on a path to Hell, my friend.

[DimDirk]

Originally Posted by Brother Shawn

Bryan, You should NEVER talk to a True Christian™ like that. They are chosen people of the Lord and Savior. You are on a path to Hell, my friend.

I have no time for self appointed represetatives of God be they a Pope who was a memeber of the Nazi party or an online gang who wish to choose how they are spoken to. My words come from a lifetime of Bible learning and that comes from Jesus.

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by Bryan'sSacredLiver

Can anyone who's viewpoint isn't totally skewed after being raised at the teet of the papal yolk explain to this Italian Satanist why he's wrong?

You think that Dracula is a factual book?

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by Bryan'sSacredLiver

Whilst I am in no way stating that Witches and Satan do not exist does writing from an ancient manuscript put paid to anything? I mean this is not the Bible is it, its justa book written by a man trying to make a buck, you could just as easily put a passage from Bram Stokers Dracula as proof of the existance of dark forces.

Landover Baptists has years worth of confessions from repenting Witches we have soul saved. As you saying those women who are so desperate to unburden their souls they don't wait for their burns to heal before getting up in church and coming to Jesus are lying?

That's really rather arrogant of you.

[LBC loving Dutchmen]

Originally Posted by Bryan'sSacredLiver

I have no time for self appointed represetatives of God be they a Pope who was a memeber of the Nazi party or an online gang who wish to choose how they are spoken to. My words come from a lifetime of Bible learning and that comes from Jesus.

True Christians are appointed by Jesus. I hope to get appointed too, as I have no ambition to spend eternity in hell! True Christians have nothing in common with those choirboy-raping catlics! Do you see anyone here hail at some "saints"?
Maybe you should read more carefully in your KJV

[Repentant]

Originally Posted by Bryan'sSacredLiver

I have no time for self appointed represetatives of God be they a Pope who was a memeber of the Nazi party or an online gang who wish to choose how they are spoken to. My words come from a lifetime of Bible learning and that comes from Jesus.

There are none worse than those who claim to be Bible readers, and who claim they "understand" the bible. My guess is that you are one of those "metaphorists".

True Christians believe that the word of God is literal and final.

I can only assume on the basis that you believe that Dracula is a somewhat factual account, and that the Bible is somehow perverted by literal translation that you are here to promote witchcraft. Satan is all around us people, do not drop your guard, it will be a cold day in hell when we allow such profligacy of thought to reign.

[Repentant]

Originally Posted by Bryan'sSacredLiver

I have no time for self appointed represetatives of God be they a Pope who was a memeber of the Nazi party or an online gang who wish to choose how they are spoken to. My words come from a lifetime of Bible learning and that comes from Jesus.

Also only a witch would suggest that the Bible comes from Jesus, indeed you are uncovered already as a fool and a Satanist. When you come up against the might of God be sure to remember the fact that you believe the Bible to be the word of Jesus for he will surely see through your murky veil.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Like all things biblical, such information is timeless.

[WWJDnow]

Part of Satan's plan is to make people think that he does not exist. That's why nobody should ever talk to anyone who denies the reality of the Devil.

[Johny Joe Hold]

Even a faith far inferior to Landover Baptist, Catholicism, knows there is a Satan. Pope Francis brings up the Devil often and the war we are in with him.

https://francismary.org/pope-francis...ns%3A%20Satan.

I wish the Pope and Catholic Church would simply close its doors and join Landover's war against sin, witches and Satan. United we would win this thing. With the Catholic Church refusing to acknowledge
True Christianity we must soldier on by ourselves.

[WWJDnow]

Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold

Even a faith far inferior to Landover Baptist, Catholicism, knows there is a Satan. Pope Francis brings up the Devil often and the war we are in with him.

It has been well documented that the Catholic Church is in league with the Devil. So yes, they acknowledge him.... as their lord and master.