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Stoning Should be the Method of Capital Punishment -
12-31-2010, 04:40 AM
Jesus is quite clear on this. He also is clear that there are many more offenses for with death by stoning is commanded. This is just one more reason for why we need more Godly Republicans in office.
For witches and wizards A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:27
For worshipping other gods If there be found among you ... that ... hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them ... Then shalt thou ... tone them with stones, till they die. Deut 21: 18-21
For cursing or blaspheming And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him. Leviticus 24:16
We need to pass an ordinance in Freehold to legalize public stonings.
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12-31-2010, 04:54 AM
Brother I agree with every thing that you stated. But I am afraid that there are many hurtles to overcome, local, state and federal laws forbid such actions. We have but two hopes, the first is that a fine Republican like Brother Huckabee is elected or I am afraid that Freehold will have to succeed from the union. I fear that even Brother Huckabee might not be able to make all the changes needed. Succession is most likely our best bet.
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Re: Stoning Should be the Method of Capital Punishment -
12-31-2010, 05:00 AM
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Jesus is quite clear on this. He also is clear that there are many more offenses for with death by stoning is commanded. This is just one more reason for why we need more Godly Republicans in office.
For witches and wizards A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:27
For worshipping other gods If there be found among you ... that ... hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them ... Then shalt thou ... tone them with stones, till they die. Deut 21: 18-21
For cursing or blaspheming And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him. Leviticus 24:16
We need to pass an ordinance in Freehold to legalize public stonings.
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Amen brother!! This is precisely why we need to toss out that pesky secular U.S. Constitution and replace it with the Holy Bible. We need to follow the Word of God to the letter!
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Stoning Should be the Method of Capital Punishment -
12-31-2010, 05:10 AM
Sharia Law allows for such punishment. Praise be to Allah(pigs be upon him).
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2. All praise is due to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds.
3. The Beneficent, the Merciful.
pigs be upon him means piss be upon him
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Re: Stoning Should be the Method of Capital Punishment -
12-31-2010, 05:27 AM
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Sharia Law allows for such punishment. Praise be to Allah(pigs be upon him).
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Now that's not what I'm talking about and you know it!
I mean GOD'S HOLY WORD!
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Stoning Should be the Method of Capital Punishment -
12-31-2010, 06:58 AM
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Sharia Law allows for such punishment. Praise be to Allah(pigs be upon him).
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I Ma'am Rashik, you have given me an idea.
Perhaps Landover could make arrangements with you to transfer homosexuals, adulterers, blasphemers, and the like to your heathen nation, where under your laws, you could properly execute them!
Now, we do realize that stones are not inexpensive, particularly fist-sized stones of proper heft. (We are aware that Sharia requires that the stones be large enough to cause injury but not so large as to kill in a single blow.)
There is also the possibility of infecting the stones with the AIDS.
So, it would be necessary to compensate your countrymen for the stones used, which would be buried with the criminal.
Given the economies of most Muslim nations, I am thinking a shiny US quarter per stone should be adequate. What do you say?
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Re: Stoning Should be the Method of Capital Punishment -
01-02-2011, 04:19 AM
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Now that's not what I'm talking about and you know it!
I mean GOD'S HOLY WORD!
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The few things the Mooslimes got right ie stoning, beatings and how to treat women they stole from our God.
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Re: Stoning Should be the Method of Capital Punishment -
01-02-2011, 04:26 AM
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I Ma'am Rashik, you have given me an idea.
Perhaps Landover could make arrangements with you to transfer homosexuals, adulterers, blasphemers, and the like to your heathen nation, where under your laws, you could properly execute them!
Now, we do realize that stones are not inexpensive, particularly fist-sized stones of proper heft. (We are aware that Sharia requires that the stones be large enough to cause injury but not so large as to kill in a single blow.)
There is also the possibility of infecting the stones with the AIDS.
So, it would be necessary to compensate your countrymen for the stones used, which would be buried with the criminal.
Given the economies of most Muslim nations, I am thinking a shiny US quarter per stone should be adequate. What do you say?
See how pretty? SHINY!
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Rev, you are onto something major. When Obama is out and all the offshore drilling produces enough oil for the US, raghead oil will be pretty much worthless and the Mooslimes will really go on the warpath. Stoning our sinners to death will give them something to do instead of attacking us.
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Re: Stoning Should be the Method of Capital Punishment -
01-02-2011, 04:31 AM
While I too am a great fan of stoning, would special circumstances merit perhaps an even more severe punishment?
I am thinking of hanging combined with spontaneous disembowelment.
This would be used in crimes that are committed with an element of betrayal. Like spying on a future Godly Christian US government. Or women conceiving children with men other than their husband.
Jud 1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are un Godly among them of all their un Godly deeds which they have un Godly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which un Godly sinners have spoken against him.
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Re: Stoning Should be the Method of Capital Punishment -
01-03-2011, 07:46 PM
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Amen brother!! This is precisely why we need to toss out that pesky secular U.S. Constitution and replace it with the Holy Bible. We need to follow the Word of God to the letter!
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Freehold, Iowa, is considered to be the Ground Zero for the political advocacy of stoning.
Some of you may remember the fabulous Freehold Summer Stoning Festival we held here. I'd have to say it was one of Freehold's greatest moments.
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showt...estival&page=4
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01-06-2011, 04:01 PM
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While I too am a great fan of stoning, would special circumstances merit perhaps an even more severe punishment?
I am thinking of hanging combined with spontaneous disembowelment.
This would be used in crimes that are committed with an element of betrayal. Like spying on a future Godly Christian US government. Or women conceiving children with men other than their husband.
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The Bible mentions more extreme punishments a few times, for example:
Lev. 21:9: And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire.
2 Sam. 12:31: And he brought forth the people that [were] therein, and put [them] under saws, and under harrows of iron, and under axes of iron, and made them pass through the brickkiln: and thus did he unto all the cities of the children of Ammon. So David and all the people returned unto Jerusalem.
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Re: Stoning Should be the Method of Capital Punishment -
01-06-2011, 04:13 PM
Thanks for that Pastor Peters.
I think we need to maintain the severest forms of punishment for their deterrence value. There are already so many billions of the damned in Hell, we need all the help we can get in making sinners realize that True Salvation™ is the way. If getting them to contemplate the horrors of Godly capital punishment turns them away from living a reprobate life, then we have brought a blessing into their otherwise squalid and pitiable lives
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01-06-2011, 11:32 PM
Stoning should not be the current Method of Capital Punishment. Lethal Injection was not available due to lack of technilogical progress.
Also, Capital Punishment should not be used as a whole. Christ has shown his mercy to us, and as such we should show mercy to others. It is better to have a murderer be brought to Christ, than to kill him before repentance.
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Re: Stoning Should be the Method of Capital Punishment -
01-06-2011, 11:45 PM
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Stoning should not be the current Method of Capital Punishment. Lethal Injection was not available due to lack of technilogical progress.
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Then why does God proscribe it as a punishment for certain crimes? Stoning is a slow painful way to die as opposed to hanging or beheading of which were both known about even then.
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Christ has shown his mercy to us, and as such we should show mercy to others. It is better to have a murderer be brought to Christ, than to kill him before repentance.
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Maybe we should only beat the evil doers?
Luke 12:47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
John 2:15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;
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01-06-2011, 11:51 PM
On a matter of mere social responsibility, I feel that the justice system has been de-personified. It is all, "the courts do this" and "the court sentence him to 99 years." There is no real personal involvement - someone does it for you and you don't really care.
Stoning brings back the idea of Justice to We The People. There must be a certain satisfaction when a 10 pound stone hits the eye-socket of an abomination. After stoning a few people to death, people will wonder why the old system was ever thought worthwhile.
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01-07-2011, 12:00 AM
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Then why does God proscribe it as a punishment for certain crimes? Stoning is a slow painful way to die as opposed to hanging or beheading of which were both known about even then.
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Old testament bro. It was nailed to the cross.
Col 2:14-15
14 having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross. 15 And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.[a]
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I offer you John 8:7.
John 8:7
When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
As per your Luke 12 passage, if you read the whole thing you will see it is speaking about the end of days.
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35 “Be dressed ready for service and keep your lamps burning, 36 like servants waiting for their master to return from a wedding banquet, so that when he comes and knocks they can immediately open the door for him. 37 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them watching when he comes. Truly I tell you, he will dress himself to serve, will have them recline at the table and will come and wait on them. 38 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them ready, even if he comes in the middle of the night or toward daybreak. 39 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have let his house be broken into. 40 You also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.”
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01-07-2011, 12:11 AM
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Old testament bro. It was nailed to the cross.
Col 2:14-15
14 having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross. 15 And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.[a]
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Was it?
Most of the New Testament comes from the Old.
Matthew 22:37-39 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment.
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Where did Jesus get those sayings from?
Deuteronomy 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
Leviticus 19:17-18 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
18Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.
What did Jesus say when Satan tried to tempt Him?
Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Where did Jesus get that from?
Deuteronomy 8:3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.
So tell me where Jesus came to abolish the law?
As lain out in Matthew 5? Perhaps you have read it.
17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
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I offer you John 8:7.
John 8:7
When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
As per your Luke 12 passage, if you read the whole thing you will see it is speaking about the end of days.
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Fortunately, we are without sin as Christians. Pass me a rock!!!
Psalm 119:1-4 Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.
Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.
Thou hast commanded us to keep thy precepts diligently.
Here God tells Abraham that perfection is achievable.
Genesis 17:1 I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.
I can hear some panties getting into a twist over these scriptures. Perhaps you think, that's Old Testament. The Bible says, "for all have sinned." That was prior to our Salvation. I would like to draw your attention to:
1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
How could we not be perfect if Jesus himself admonishes us to be perfect?
Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
In the Book of Luke, Jesus tells us that in becoming perfect, we are like God.
Luke 6:40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
In many of the Epistles, the authors tell us that we are perfect and can be "unblameable in holiness," like our Master Who is in Heaven.
1 Thessalonians 3:13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.
Colossians 1:22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
Colossians 1:28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
1 Peter 5:10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.
Philippians 3:15Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.
Luke 1:5-6 THERE was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.
And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
Genesis 17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.
God speaking to Ezekiel.
Ezekiel 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
David speaking to God.
Psalm 101:2 I will behave myself wisely in a perfect way. O when wilt thou come unto me? I will walk within my house with a perfect heart.
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I offer you 1 John.
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The Incarnation of the Word of Life
1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched—this we proclaim concerning the Word of life. 2 The life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and has appeared to us. 3 We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us. And our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ. 4 We write this to make our[a] joy complete.
Light and Darkness, Sin and Forgiveness
5 This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. 6 If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live out the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all[b] sin.
8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us.
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01-07-2011, 12:24 AM
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@Levi Jones
I offer you 1 John.
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That is prior to salvation. Why would John write that and then purposely contradict himself two chapters later.
I offer you 1 John.
3And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
4Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
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01-07-2011, 12:25 AM
Also, while the Old Testament is often quoted. It is no longer binding.
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8 But God found fault with the people and said[a]:
“The days are coming, declares the Lord,
when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
9 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they did not remain faithful to my covenant,
and I turned away from them,
declares the Lord.
10 This is the covenant I will establish with the people of Israel
after that time, declares the Lord.
I will put my laws in their minds
and write them on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
11 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest.
12 For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.”[b] 13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.
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Also, by your logic. Since you are an ex-masterbator you looked upon a woman with lust. Just looking upon a woman with lust, is adultery. OT punishment for adultery should be stoning to death. You sir, should be stoned to death based on this.
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Adultery
27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[e] 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.
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