[Cbeck29]

Originally Posted by Pastor Isaac Peters

Why are you here, pal? You go back and forth between standard Catholic Mary-worship and the sort of Bible-mocking argument that I'd expect to hear verbatim from an atheist.

I'm not mocking the bible. I'm mocking your radical interpretation of it. You baptists are impossible to deal with. I don't want to be viewed as an atheist, but I refuse to allow you to keep pestering me for being a "Mary worshipper." we revere Mary as holy, but do not hold her as a god. Someone earlier fought my religion because Catholics pray the hail Mary, which apparently was made up by a Mary loving pope. However, it is taken from the bible.
Luke 1:28
Luke 1:41-42

[Levi Jones]

Originally Posted by Cbeck29

I'm not mocking the bible. I'm mocking your radical interpretation of it. You baptists are impossible to deal with. I don't want to be viewed as an atheist, but I refuse to allow you to keep pestering me for being a "Mary worshipper." we revere Mary as holy, but do not hold her as a god. Someone earlier fought my religion because Catholics pray the hail Mary, which apparently was made up by a Mary loving pope. However, it is taken from the bible.
Luke 1:28
Luke 1:41-42

The first part is, but the later part?

Holy Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners,
now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

The very idea of intervention of the saints is non-biblical. No one can come to the Father except through Jesus.

Plus, the saints are living people.

Romans 1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

[Cbeck29]

Originally Posted by Levi Jones

The first part is, but the later part?

Holy Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners,
now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

The very idea of intervention of the saints is non-biblical. No one can come to the Father except through Jesus.

Plus the saints are living people.
Romans 1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

The last part is completely biblical. Even if Mary weren't a saint, she could still pray for us. Any normal person could pray for someone. I could pray for you

[Levi Jones]

Originally Posted by Cbeck29

The last part is completely biblical. Even if Mary weren't a saint, she could still pray for us. Any normal person could pray for someone. I could pray for you

Yes, but I can't speak to the dead. That's divination and it's wrong. For someone who is dead to even hear you prayers means they have the power to.

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

[Cbeck29]

Originally Posted by Levi Jones

Yes, but I can't speak to the dead. That's divination and it's wrong. For someone who is dead to even hear you prayers means they have the power to.

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

We don't speak to the dead. We pray through the mother of our Lord, Jesus.

[Levi Jones]

Originally Posted by Cbeck29

We pray through the mother of our Lord, Jesus.

The mother of Jesus is dead. Do you pray to your great uncle too? Maybe you pray to him to pray for you to find your car keys?

For someone to be able to hear your prayers from the grave, again, they have to have the power to hear them. The only way to hear a prayer from the grave is either divination or that person who is dead would have to possess God-like powers.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by Levi Jones

The mother of Jesus is dead. Do you pray to your great uncle too? Maybe you pray to him to pray for you to find your car keys?

That would be St. Anthony. And you'd bury an idol of St. Joseph in your yard, upside down, if you wanted to sell your house.

But catholics aren't superstitious. Noooooo.

[Cbeck29]

Originally Posted by Levi Jones

The mother of Jesus is dead. Do you pray to your great uncle too? Maybe you pray to him to pray for you to find your car keys?

For someone to be able to hear your prayers from the grave, again, they have to have the power to hear them. The only way to hear a prayer from the grave is either divination or that person who is dead would have to possess God-like powers.

Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda

That would be St. Anthony. And you'd bury an idol of St. Joseph in your yard, upside down, if you wanted to sell your house.

But catholics aren't superstitious. Noooooo.

Levi you have it a little off. Catholics believe that Mary was assumed body and soul into heaven by merit of her sinlessness. This is why we pray through her.

Mary, I've never heard of this st joseph idol practice. You must be more catholic than I am! Oh wait, no. You're just uninformed, and make up your own version of Catholics to demonize us.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by Cbeck29

Levi you have it a little off. Catholics believe that Mary was assumed body and soul into heaven by merit of her sinlessness. This is why we pray through her.

Based on which chapter and verse of God's Holy Bible?

Originally Posted by Cbeck29

Mary, I've never heard of this st joseph idol practice. You must be more catholic than I am! Oh wait, no. You're just uninformed, and make up your own version of Catholics to demonize us.

Google is your friend, dear. I grew up in this catholic cult. Know your faith. Know what it really teaches.

[Levi Jones]

Originally Posted by Cbeck29

Levi you have it a little off. Catholics believe that Mary was assumed body and soul into heaven by merit of her sinlessness.

Where does the Bible say Mary was sinless? Where does it say she ascended to heaven?

Again, Jesus is the only way to God.

17Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.



Only Jesus.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Cbeck29

the bible may be in this case, dead ass wrong.

Originally Posted by Cbeck29

I'm not mocking the bible. I'm mocking your radical interpretation of it.

How do you interpret it? They could see ALL the kingdoms of the world from one place. Not some. Not many. ALL.

It's because of Mary worshiping atheists like you that I don't let Cindy Lou on the internet unsupervised.

You don't even believe in the Bible. You obviously worship a dead woman because it is forbidden, being necromancy. Why do you wish to offend Jesus? Do you hate innocence and decency?

Why do you spit in the face of Jesus by openly denying the truth of the gospel and praying to His mother? Is it because you want to have all the anal sex you want? Are you a homosexual and you resent the fact that God prescribes you the death penalty? Why do you hate Him?

[Redeemed Papist]

In the middle of all that ranting did I see a Catholic say that while men made up the catechism that's OK but men made up the Bible too?

[James Peter]

Oh great, now you banned him! And he NEVER even acknowledge any of the 8 posts I wrote directly for him showing him the true Catholic perspective on geocentrism. What am I, invisible here?

[Noah Sole]

Originally Posted by Redeemed Papist

In the middle of all that ranting did I see a Catholic say that while men made up the catechism that's OK but men made up the Bible too?

Ignoring the post by the cathlick above - Yes Redeemed Papist, ironic isn't it?

YIC

[Godsloveisinfinite]

I found this site by accident, and in it I did not find God, or the comforting embrace of those who believe in God. I truly pray for all of you. Your love for God is admirable, and your biblical knowledge is beyond impressive. You forget God's love, you forget that you are of the same bones and skin as your black, asian and white brothers and sisters. You forget that degrading them is degrading the omnipotence of the creator god. If he creates black skin, it is Godly, like your own. Raised as a catholic I live my life knowing that I would happily die for god if the situation arose, this is my dedication.

Do not forge the infinite complexities of the bible, do not forge that a quote out of context can be used in the wrong way. Do not forget that a life full of hatred is not worth living. I have seen true hate on this website, true hate, and a burning passion that does not lie in the heart of the lord. Please, the fact that death, hatred and ethnic cleansing are recurring features of discussion on this website speaks volumes.

I pray for you all.

[Jack O'fagan]

Originally Posted by Godsloveisinfinite

Please, the fact that death, hatred and ethnic cleansing are recurring features of discussion on this website speaks volumes.

That is because we are Christians and death, hatred and ethnic cleansing are recurring features of the Bible.

YIC

Jack

[Christluvsme]

Why can't we convert them all!?

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by Christluvsme

Why can't we convert them all!?

Well are you about to listen to God?

[Christluvsme]

of course i am! i try as hard as i can!