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Default Re: Ghost Hunters: Paranormal Investigators Promote Witchcraft - 10-06-2010, 03:46 PM

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I normally would not post anything on a message board, but this struck a cord with me.

I grew up with a very religious family and have always gone to church on a regular basis. Growing up, we were always told that the only ghost was the Holy Ghost and we were not to believe otherwise. I knew this was not a fact at all, as I had experienced many paranormal events, but I did not want to disagree with my elders or the church.

I am now an adult and a few years ago I started investigating the paranormal. To say that ghost hunters promote witchcraft is just crazy. It is my faith that drives me, not devil worship or witchery. That is just insulting on so many levels.

I live in Jerry Falwell country, so I was surprised to find that many other religious people believe in ghosts, but it seems all of them have had some sort of experience that forced them to believe. Maybe that's what it takes.
I have to ask you. What does the Bible say about consorting with familiar spirits and divination?


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Default Re: Ghost Hunters: Paranormal Investigators Promote Witchcraft - 10-06-2010, 06:24 PM

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I normally would not post anything on a message board, but this struck a cord with me.

I grew up with a very religious family and have always gone to church on a regular basis. Growing up, we were always told that the only ghost was the Holy Ghost and we were not to believe otherwise. I knew this was not a fact at all, as I had experienced many paranormal events, but I did not want to disagree with my elders or the church.
Have you heard of demons, son?

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I am now an adult and a few years ago I started investigating the paranormal. To say that ghost hunters promote witchcraft is just crazy. It is my faith that drives me, not devil worship or witchery. That is just insulting on so many levels.
There is no such thing as a ghost. You are consorting with demons and familiar spirits, which is expressly forbidden in the Bible.

Apparently, your "very religious family" didn't care to read God's Word. The Bible makes it clear that the dead are dead and unknowing until Resurrection at Judgment. Grandma isn't floating around the guest room keeping an eye on her prized thimble collection. Uncle Bob isn't watching over you and protecting you from terrorists. THERE ARE NO GHOSTS.


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Default Re: Ghost Hunters: Paranormal Investigators Promote Witchcraft - 10-26-2010, 01:32 AM

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Have you heard of demons, son?


There is no such thing as a ghost. You are consorting with demons and familiar spirits, which is expressly forbidden in the Bible.

Apparently, your "very religious family" didn't care to read God's Word. The Bible makes it clear that the dead are dead and unknowing until Resurrection at Judgment. Grandma isn't floating around the guest room keeping an eye on her prized thimble collection. Uncle Bob isn't watching over you and protecting you from terrorists. THERE ARE NO GHOSTS.
I have to ask this do you guys believe in the Devil?? Cause if you do you have to without a doubt believe in ghosts there is no questions asked!
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Default Re: Ghost Hunters: Paranormal Investigators Promote Witchcraft - 10-26-2010, 02:44 AM

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I have to ask this do you guys believe in the Devil?? Cause if you do you have to without a doubt believe in ghosts there is no questions asked!
I just explained why there are no such things as ghosts, did I not?

What you believe to be "ghosts", the remains of dead people, are demons impersonating the dead people.


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I have to ask this do you guys believe in the Devil?? Cause if you do you have to without a doubt believe in ghosts there is no questions asked!
What do ghosts have to do with the devil?


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Default Re: Ghost Hunters: Paranormal Investigators Promote Witchcraft - 11-11-2010, 02:21 AM

This is my first post ever here.
I literally just joined and found this.

You, Reverend whatever your face, are the kind of Christian that put us all to shame. I believe in God; I believe in Heaven and Hell. But I do believe in ghosts. Not every single thing ghost hunters talk to are demons!
You're trying to say that anything that doesn't follow your rules EXACTLY is bad. If I'm wrong, please, correct me.
I watch the majority of those shows. I believe in the paranormal, for I have seen and heard many a ghost (notice how I said ghost; not demon). My mom tried to raise me in a very religious household, but she didn't. I'm religious, but not so religious that I've been brainwashed.
The three from Ghost Adventures are not gay. You are being judgmental and, quite frankly, being a bigot. I recall God saying that he will accept you for who you are; take you as you come, yet here you go about all over the site saying gays are bad and goths are bad.

Creepy clown man, what's wrong with goth girls? I wear odd jewelry and wear dark clothing; am I bad and rebellious child? Because, if I am, you really need to tell me.

I honestly don't get how Christians can say "we won't judge you" then we go and do so.
And how do you know all witches are bad? Wiccans are bad; they serve the Earth. Is the Earth bad? Hm?
I, personally, know quite a few Wiccans.

My church (Church on the Hill; Church of the Nazarene [where we accept people for who they are]) doesn't believe in those sort of bigotry and judging.
Please, research properly before posting this.

If I, a 17-year-old, know better than you all, old creepy men, then you all fail.

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Default Re: Ghost Hunters: Paranormal Investigators Promote Witchcraft - 11-11-2010, 02:31 AM

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You, Reverend whatever your face, are the kind of Christian that put us all to shame. I believe in God; I believe in Heaven and Hell. But I do believe in ghosts. Not every single thing ghost hunters talk to are demons!
Son, start actually reading your Bible instead of using it for rolling papers.
Deuteronomy 18:10-14 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.
Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

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If I, a 17-year-old, know better than you all, old creepy men, then you all fail.
Of course, child. You know better than God does..


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Default Re: Ghost Hunters: Paranormal Investigators Promote Witchcraft - 11-17-2010, 12:36 AM

If ghost are real then the idea of heaven as well as hell loses it's meaning and purpose. So of course christians are going to say ghost don't exist. I however know they do, I have had to many encounters not to believe in them. And my encounters involve more than one person present at the time of occurance.

As far as witchcraft. Some say it didn't start until the 50's. Well then why is it refered to centuries before, a rediscovery in the 50's is more like it. Unfortuneatly in general description of witchcraft can also mean prayer, especially since the foundation of pray is receiving something through ritual, chant, or though multiple people. Prophesy, predicting the future, also considered as witchcraft but somehow become valid in Christianity.

Putting a new name on pagan ritual or act and calling it a christian ritual doesn't make it any more just or true. Just makes you a hypocrite.


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Default Re: Ghost Hunters: Paranormal Investigators Promote Witchcraft - 01-19-2011, 08:03 PM

Ghost hunters i dont believe is even a real show. People just trying to get some money of bizzare things...
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Default Re: Ghost Hunters: Paranormal Investigators Promote Witchcraft - 01-19-2011, 08:07 PM

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People just trying to get some money of bizzare things...
Indeed. Kind of like those that would peddle vile smut, Peter North?


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Default Re: Ghost Hunters: Paranormal Investigators Promote Witchcraft - 06-09-2011, 05:45 PM

I hate to be the one to break to you, but the Bible itself....is paranormal. Beyond that which is considered "normal".

Also, if you want to come across as having any intellect when discussing something, learn the correct terminology, procedure and refrain from slinging insults. Maybe if you read something OTHER than your Bible every now and then, you would have some knowledge to back up the ridiculous concepts you are throwing out there. (EVP detector...indeed.)

Paranormal Investigators do not go about contacting "demons" and they, in no way, use witchcraft. They use.....SCIENCE. I know that's a big, scary word for you Bible thumpers....but try to embrace it. It's reality. (But you can still dream about your fairy tales as well.)

And I fail to see how accusing 3 grown men of being gay in any way relates to your topic of Ghost Hunting? Is it that you can't get through one topic without more mud-slinging and hate-mongering? That's all religion has become now-a-days, largely due to people like yourself. You don't "love thy brother"....not if he is in any way different that the short-sighted person you've become.

Religion should not be a badge you wear to state "I am better then everyone else and it doesn't matter how I speak about them because I've been 'saved'...."
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Default Re: Ghost Hunters: Paranormal Investigators Promote Witchcraft - 06-09-2011, 06:29 PM

Christians are supposed to love one another and leave the judgements to God...
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Whine whine whine! Can you show me anywhere in the Bible where it says we're supposed to candy coat scripture to make it go down easier?


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I hate to be the one to break to you, but the Bible itself....is paranormal. Beyond that which is considered "normal".

Also, if you want to come across as having any intellect when discussing something, learn the correct terminology, procedure and refrain from slinging insults. Maybe if you read something OTHER than your Bible every now and then, you would have some knowledge to back up the ridiculous concepts you are throwing out there. (EVP detector...indeed.)

Paranormal Investigators do not go about contacting "demons" and they, in no way, use witchcraft. They use.....SCIENCE. I know that's a big, scary word for you Bible thumpers....but try to embrace it. It's reality. (But you can still dream about your fairy tales as well.)

And I fail to see how accusing 3 grown men of being gay in any way relates to your topic of Ghost Hunting? Is it that you can't get through one topic without more mud-slinging and hate-mongering? That's all religion has become now-a-days, largely due to people like yourself. You don't "love thy brother"....not if he is in any way different that the short-sighted person you've become.

Religion should not be a badge you wear to state "I am better then everyone else and it doesn't matter how I speak about them because I've been 'saved'...."
Oh yes, Jesus is part of the occult. Like some old guy with a funny beard waved his hands and things happened like in Harry Potter. Our faith is based on Christian SCIENCE founded on Biblical FACT. There is nothing hocus pocus here.

Show me one ghost in The Bible and I might believe you.

Maybe.



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It makes me so sick to my stomach to see people claiming to be christian, who use that as an excuse to be nasty, rude, hateful people. So many of your comments are disgusting. You attack good people, because you can only make yourself feel good by putting down others. This doesn't sound like "good christian values" to me, it just sounds like pure HATE.

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It makes me so sick to my stomach to see people claiming to be christian, who use that as an excuse to be nasty, rude, hateful people. So many of your comments are disgusting. You attack good people, because you can only make yourself feel good by putting down others. This doesn't sound like "good christian values" to me, it just sounds like pure HATE.

Proud to be a TRUE CHRISTIAN, who accepts people for who they are,

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First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.


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Default Re: Ghost Hunters: Paranormal Investigators Promote Witchcraft - 11-26-2011, 04:26 AM

Jim Osborne you are so full of shit. The Bible teaches us about an afterlife and thse groups are trying to prove it. Instead of calling people gay (which they are not) why don't you try to understand other peoples beliefs. Its assholes like you (yes I am name calling) that make little kids scared of their own religion. Teach with love, kindness and understanding and most important, RESPECT!!!!
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Wow... You call yourself a pastor? You are an ignorant, close-minded brainwasher. I have studied many religions and many interpretations of the Bible and you use many of these verses out of context.

Another thing, you may have stated a bunch of verses but where is your proof that these people are homosexual or witches and wizards? I am also an English major and I have learned that an argument without evidence is a load of crap, and that is what this is; a load of crap. You're argument is questionable at best and with no evidence no one with a brain will even take a second glance at it.

How dare you accuse and judge people you don't know. I'm sure you know what the Bible says about judging others: Romans 14:10, Romans 14:4, Romans 2:1, etc... I especially like that last one. "Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things." Does that sound familiar?

You are in serious need of an education in both Literature and Theology.
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Oh please! Every forum is a debate forum. That's kind of the purpose of a forum.

"Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated."
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, whether you agree with them or not.

"Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome . "
Are you sure you are interpreting it correctly? what if you're wrong? When the Catholics began the Inquisition they also said they were following the Word of God to the letter and look how that ended up. Also God welcomes everyone and to say that someone is unwelcome just goes to show that you're not following God's word completely.

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Oh dear, that was un-Christian of you.

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Default Re: Ghost Hunters: Paranormal Investigators Promote Witchcraft - 11-26-2011, 05:04 AM

First and foremost I want to say that I am Christian woman and I have followed the Lord Jesus Christ for many many years and all I have to say about this is YOU ARE IDIOTS IF YOU BELIEVE THIS CRAP!!

The EMF detector is a device that detects Electromagnetic fields in an area that can cause people to feel weird and cause them to think that something paranormal is in the area. They ARE NOT TO DETECT THE ORESENCE OF DEMONS!!!!

That is ridiculous and the TAPS team DOES NOT go into these places trying to communicate with the dead. Their sole goal is to go into these places to find legitimate reasons why the people are hearing and seeing things. I have watched this show since it began and they have NEVER AND I DO MEAN NEVER EVEN BROUGHT IN A QUIJA BOARD. They do not like psychics and frequently tell the people who have consulted these types of people that they are fake and not to take what they say seriously. In most cases the Taps team go into a place and they find a lot of legitimate reasons for all the strange noises...such as houses settling which happen all the time in old houses/buildings, reflections in mirrors caused by a passing car, wind drafts from a heavy door that delays it closing and more...

I don't mean any disrespect to anyone but you are crazy!! I have been a Baptist for most of my life and it is people like you who cause others to run from the church screaming because they look at you like a witch hunter and someone who is going to do nothing but condem.

If you were a true believer you would follow Jesus' most important rule and commandment which is to love one another. He also siad not to judge lest you be judged.

This website is a joke and all it does is cause more fear and untruth about the Christian lifestyle.

I do not care to comment again and I better not receive anything from any of your administrators on this issue. The one and only reason I signed up was so I could defend these people (even though they dont need me to defend them)...

I love the Ghost Hunters show and I will not stop watching it...

That is all I have to say...
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