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Re: Mars -
01-15-2012, 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam Ski
Yes I can see where you've gone wrong. No I don't think there's men on the Sun, we live on the Earth but there are lots more "Earths" (and their "Suns" which are the stars) where men can live too. If we go there we'll meet them but they may have come to our world. They could have met Earth girls here too. I'm quite sure that we'il go to the stars one day. It's like a new New World. We can see where we want to go but it's hard to get there. The old New World was one you could go to (in a boat) but could not see.
Our star (the Sun) has a mind. We are that mind. When we long to see all those Suns up close, to go there in our space ships and talk to who lives there, it's the Sun's mind that longs to do those things. If you want to call that "God" you can. I don't. I call it the Sun. It's the source of all life but it's not a God. No space craft has found one of those yet. There's none to find.
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You're either posting while intoxicated or have been reading too much Roger Penrose.
Hell's foundations quiver at the shout of praise;
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Re: Mars -
01-15-2012, 05:28 AM
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You're either posting while intoxicated or have been reading too much Roger Penrose.
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It's just a thought. But the world is real and what we do here is real. I don't want to say you're wrong so hope that we get on with each other as we chat. I don't drink.
Proverbs 20:23 Divers weights are an abomination unto the LORD; and a false balance is not good.
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Re: Mars -
01-15-2012, 05:30 AM
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It's just a thought. But the world is real and what we do here is real. I don't want to say you're wrong so hope that we get on with each other as we chat. I don't drink.
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You are quite obviously demon possessed. Either that or you're a queer.
This is a Christian forum, pal. Get thee hence.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Mars -
01-15-2012, 05:40 AM
Proverbs 20:23 is a glorious verse of Scripture indeed. Although you come across as a God-mocking fool, the fact that you share my disdain for the metric system gives me hope that you are not beyond Redemption.
II Thessalonians 1:7-9
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power
The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony
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Re: Mars -
01-15-2012, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam Ski
It's just a thought. But the world is real and what we do here is real. I don't want to say you're wrong so hope that we get on with each other as we chat. I don't drink.
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Son, as soon as you start sucking up to these "scientists" you will soon find yourself coming to the conclusion that we don't really exist. They'll start telling you that we are made up of these teeny tiny "particles" (that no one can see) that can be in two places at the same time, and sometimes they are not "particles" but waves, and sometimes they are both, and that they have no rest masses, or sometimes they don't exist at all.
Get with Jesus son, at least He is Real and died for the sins you have already committed.
Hell's foundations quiver at the shout of praise;
brothers, lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.
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Re: Mars -
01-15-2012, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Jedediah
Proverbs 20:23 is a glorious verse of Scripture indeed. Although you come across as a God-mocking fool, the fact that you share my disdain for the metric system gives me hope that you are not beyond Redemption.
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Thanks Jed. I have no wish to mock God. We were taught that verse where I was trained. Just weights and scales, the pound, the ounce, the pint, the ton are a must and scales should have at least one test per year to keep them true. I hope what I post won't be seen as "bad" but I don't know what you call "bad" so will read some more threads.
Proverbs 20:23 Divers weights are an abomination unto the LORD; and a false balance is not good.
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01-15-2012, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam Ski
It's just a thought. But the world is real and what we do here is real. I don't want to say you're wrong so hope that we get on with each other as we chat. I don't drink.
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THE world. Don't you think God would have told us if he had made more than one as you keep implying?
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01-15-2012, 11:25 AM
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Thanks Jed. I have no wish to mock God.
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That's like driving blindfold and saying that you had no desire to run the child over. Everyone knows the Bible disagrees with your false science.
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Re: Mars -
01-15-2012, 11:36 AM
Adam, affirming that other worlds exist (which the Bible denies in silence) is as bad as posting in God's favorite forum while high. Let's not joke around with God's Word. We won't tolerate it. (See Matthew 7:6)
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Re: Mars -
01-15-2012, 04:03 PM
Adam, the Bible clearly says that God created the Sun, Moon, Earth and the stars. The Bible also mentions the sort of stars that shine in the morning:
Job:38:7: When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
and a specific Morning Star:
Re:22:16: I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
Now I am aware that some heretic Christians maintain that Mars is neither a Sun, Moon or star, but a planet like Earth and will go to ridiculous lengths to prove this is the case:
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Dr. Walter Brown’s book In the Beginning …
Quote page 199: About 85% of a comet’s mass is frozen water. Therefore to understand comet origins, one must ask, “Where is water found?” Earth … must head the list … other planets, moons and even interstellar space have only traces of water, or possible water. These traces, instead of producing the comets, may have been caused by comets or water vapor that the “fountains of the great deep” launched into space [at the beginning of the Genesis Flood]. Quote continued, page 200. How could so many comets have recently hit the moon, and probably the planet Mercury [and Mars] that ice remains? Ice on the Moon and certainly on Mercury [and Mars] should disappear faster than the comets that deposited it. However, if 50,000 comets were ejected recently [5,000 years ago] from the Earth and an “ocean” of water vapor was injected into the inner solar system, the problem disappears. Comet impacts on Mars probably created brief saltwater flows, carving the famous “erosion” channels.
Brackets in the above quote are my added words. Dr. Brown’s discussion then continues for several more pages and includes tables of data and equations. Dr Brown’s hydroplate theory proposes that prior to the Genesis Flood there was an annular space between the Earth’s outer shell and the solid inner core. That space was maintained by supporting pillars between the shell and the core and was filled with hot salty water under pressure. At the time of the Flood the outer shell cracked down the center of what is today the Atlantic Ocean and the crack continued around the world at the ocean bottoms; there is abundant evidence for this. The Genesis Flood was initiated by this fracture opening to release the water jetting into space, breaking up into frozen balls and becoming orbiting comets. Evidently, some of these comets have since hit the Moon, Mercury and, in recent discoveries, possibly Mars. In another place he points out that on these planetary bodies the ice turned to water that left evidences of its presence by gullies, canyons etc but in the very low atmospheric pressures, this water quickly vaporized.
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Other than as a curiosity, I cannot recommend Dr.Brown’s rather massive tome nor his scholarship. Nevertheless, it can be downloaded at no cost at http://www.creationscience.com/
So, yes, there are heretics but I prefer to call them, "Batshit Crazies" because they are so obviously possessed by demons.
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Re: Mars -
01-15-2012, 04:10 PM
The point is moot, Brother Bathfire.
When the word planet was coined all it signified was that some ancients had noticed that a few of the stars, five of them, moved about. They called these stars wanderers, which in their language is planet. The planets are just special stars in the same way as a square is a special rectangle.
The scientists even make up special planets that nobody can see except in pictures they claim are taken through telescopes. Well I have a telescope and if I look at a star through it it just looks like a slightly larger dot. But we are supposed to believe that they are there.
Scientists have warped the word to mean something completely different and even claim that the Earth is a planet despite the fact that anyone with sense can see it is not a tiny glowing light in the firmament that just moves around as its only unique quality. Mostly because we stand on it and walk around.
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Re: Mars -
01-15-2012, 06:53 PM
2 Kings 23:5
And he put down the idolatrous priests, whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense in the high places in the cities of Judah, and in the places round about Jerusalem; them also that burned incense unto Baal, to the sun, and to the moon, and to the planets, and to all the host of heaven.
Planets are actually mentioned in the KJV1611 so they do exist however as we can see they are a host of heaven. Clearly therefore the Earth is NOT a planet.
Interestingly the Bible is a great source of astronomical knowledge. No other resources are needed,
Job 9:9
Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.
Job 38:31
Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?
Amos 5:8
Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name:
And Brother Bathfire you are quite correct in pointing out,
Revelation 22:16
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
Modern astronomers will try to tell us this is a planet called Venus however this is never mentioned by the Creator so it is clearly a star.
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Re: Mars -
01-15-2012, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Redeemed Papist
THE world. Don't you think God would have told us if he had made more than one as you keep implying?
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He did. John 10:16
Proverbs 20:23 Divers weights are an abomination unto the LORD; and a false balance is not good.
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Re: Mars -
01-15-2012, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam Ski
He did. John 10:16
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You seriously think that means stars are really giant round lumps of rock?
I'm not quite following you.
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Re: Mars -
01-15-2012, 10:33 PM
This thread has garbage as intolerable as SMUT PORNOGRAPHY throughout it!
These scientist can make any kind of pictures they want to make it "appear" that they know what they're talking about. I'm not really comfortable reading the whole thread because I am SURE it is filled with blasphemy. But I am sure that if I DID read it I would be disgusted!
This forum is for GOD FEARING folks, not for smut like images. The view from our lovely hunk of Earth right here in the U.S OF A is just fine for us.
I for one think this Adam fella needs to spend some time reading THE important book and less time on these science mumbo-jumbo books!
You'd better find Jesus son, before you go just like so many before you into the fiery bowels of HELL!
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth"
"And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years"
"And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth"
Thats out of Genesis boy, you should start there!!!
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Re: Mars -
01-15-2012, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Ezekiel Bathfire
Adam, the Bible clearly says that God created the Sun, Moon, Earth and the stars. The Bible also mentions the sort of stars that shine in the morning:
Job:38:7: When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
and a specific Morning Star:
Re:22:16: I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
Now I am aware that some heretic Christians maintain that Mars is neither a Sun, Moon or star, but a planet like Earth and will go to ridiculous lengths to prove this is the case:Other than as a curiosity, I cannot recommend Dr.Brown’s rather massive tome nor his scholarship. Nevertheless, it can be downloaded at no cost at http://www.creationscience.com/
So, yes, there are heretics but I prefer to call them, "Batshit Crazies" because they are so obviously possessed by demons.
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2 Kings 23:5
Proverbs 20:23 Divers weights are an abomination unto the LORD; and a false balance is not good.
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Re: Mars -
01-15-2012, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam Ski
2 Kings 23:5
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5 And he put down the idolatrous priests, whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense in the high places in the cities of Judah, and in the places round about Jerusalem; them also that burned incense unto Baal, to the sun, and to the moon, and to the planets, and to jall the host of heaven. We've already explained what a planet is to you.
You can't even read your own thread?
So you googled the word planet in the Bible as a gotcha!
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Re: Mars -
01-15-2012, 10:52 PM
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Yes, I read that. I thought that I'd post some things I like to think on (and some pics) to get to know you all and see if there was a space club here. But that's not all I think of.
The posts have been nice so far, just to say "Hi"
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Adam, i have found a great site that helps explain the mysteries of space by using context from the Bible. Satanic blasphemous link deleted explains that the question "if God created the universe, then who created God?" This is an illogical question. If God is the uncreated creator of the universe, He is the creator of time. He is not limited by the time dimension he created, so he has no beginning in time. Therefore, He does not have, or need to have, a cause.
Romans 13:8 Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law.
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Re: Mars -
01-15-2012, 10:55 PM
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Adam, i have found a great site that helps explain the mysteries of space by using context from the Bible. Creation Counter explains that the question "if God created the universe, then who created God?" This is an illogical question. If God is the uncreated creator of the universe, He is the creator of time. He is not limited by the time dimension he created, so he has no beginning in time. Therefore, He does not have, or need to have, a cause.
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Why do you consistently need more than the word of our Lord to rebuke these scientific blasphemers?
And what do I see when I follow your link?
Disgusting.
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Re: Mars -
01-15-2012, 11:02 PM
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You seriously think that means stars are really giant round lumps of rock?
I'm not quite following you.
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John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold
it means he has sheep that are not of this fold (but does not name which folds there are, as well as the Earth)
viewed here from the Moon.
Viewed from Mars
Proverbs 20:23 Divers weights are an abomination unto the LORD; and a false balance is not good.
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