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Dim by Design · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

Who are you to tell us what the Bible says, when you have never bothered to read God's Word for yourself? What, your Pastor grandfather has never thought you should study God's Word? What is he, a Satanist? Or worse, a Unitarian?

You telling us what the Bible says is like me trying to tell you the recipes in "The Joy of Cooking" are all wrong, when I've never opened the book.

God took great pains to present Himself as He wishes us to understand Him in the 1500+ pages of the Bible. You have chosen instead to make up your own little god, one who believes what you believe, loves what you love, and hates what you hate.

That is idolatry. That is sin. You are Hellbound, and have turned your back on God.

And you base this belief of yours upon what, exactly? Your vain imaginings of what God would be, if only God were created by YOU?

As you people say, God saves anyone's soul who asks him in good faith. Isn't this sign of emotion? People say that God loves us. Is this love any different from the love a mother has for her child?

Pastor Ezekiel · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Disparity by Design

As you people say, God saves anyone's soul who asks him in good faith. Isn't this sign of emotion? People say that God loves us. Is this love any different from the love a mother has for her child?

"People say" all kinds of things. Take a look at THIS sermon on the things people say that are NOT in the Holy Bible.

I'm trying to educate you boy. You're making an ass of yourself and I'm trying to help you see the Light. Stop making things up about God and find out for yourself.

Dim by Design · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

"People say" all kinds of things. Take a look at THIS sermon on the things people say that are NOT in the Holy Bible.

I'm trying to educate you boy. You're making an ass of yourself and I'm trying to help you see the Light. Stop making things up about God and find out for yourself.

How am I making things up? Are you saying that God has no feelings or thoughts like we do? Stop avoiding this question.

Pastor Ezekiel · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Disparity by Design

How am I making things up? Are you saying that God has no feelings or thoughts like we do? Stop avoiding this question.

I'm saying that anything you say abot God is irrelevant, because you don't know your ass from your elbow on the subject.

God is nothing like you, boy. He's smart for one thing.

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Isaiah 55:8-9: For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

Dim by Design · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

I'm saying that anything you say abot God is irrelevant, because you don't know your ass from your elbow on the subject.

God is nothing like you, boy. He's smart for one thing.

Correct. God is smart. I'm not smart, but you aren't either. Nobody deserves to be saved, but God HAS FEELINGS and saves them anyway.

Pastor Ezekiel · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dim by Design

Correct. God is smart. I'm not smart, but you aren't either. Nobody deserves to be saved, but God HAS FEELINGS and saves them anyway.

And where does it say any of that in the Holy Bible?

Dim by Design · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 05:27 AM

Or another question, where does it say in the Bible that God doesn't have feelings or thoughts? Or that we actually deserve to be saved because no one in this world is perfect, everyone has flaws

Bobby-Joe · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dim by Design

Correct. God is smart. I'm not smart, but you aren't either. Nobody deserves to be saved, but God HAS FEELINGS and saves them anyway.

Really friend, quit trying to limit God.

God by definition is ineffable - He is perfect and all powerful. We can not possibly understand His motives or reasoning. Just look at the Bible, does that make any sense to you? No. Like God The Bible is beyond our comprehension. All do we humans know is we TRUE Christians are SAVED and the unsaved scum are damned.

Dim by Design · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 05:33 AM

Emotions aren't a limit, they are what makes you exist... God has emotions and thoughts; I know that it's fact. Just like how God loves us. LOVE IS AN EMOTION. I know it deep down inside me. Just like people can't prove that God exists but people still believe in him.

Rev. M. Rodimer · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dim by Design

As you people say, God saves anyone's soul who asks him in good faith. Isn't this sign of emotion? People say that God loves us. Is this love any different from the love a mother has for her child?

So you are saying you gain your knowledge of God by "deductive reasoning" instead of by reading the 1,500-page Book HE GAVE US to TELL US about Him.

Yes?

God has a contract with humans. Those who follow all of His 600+ COMMANDS get to spend eternity praising Him for existing and being perfect, and serving Him as He decrees.

Those who disobey any of His COMMANDS will spend eternity being burned alive in His Lake of Fire, in unending agony.

Just asking nicely to be Saved isn't gonna cut it. You must repent. Do you know what that means?

Let me save you some wasted typing. Repentance is understanding that your sins are selfish and wrong and evil, just as YOU are (being human), and that every time you sin you SPIT IN GOD'S FACE. He died temporarily for you, the ultimate sacrifice, for three whole days until He decided to resurrect Himself.

You then beg God for forgiveness, and, as Jesus told the adulterous woman, "SIN NO MORE".

EVER.

Tell me, Sparky, how can you know for sure whether you are sinning if you don't know what God's COMMANDS are? Are you going to guess at what those are, too?

Rev. M. Rodimer · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dim by Design

Emotions aren't a limit, they are what makes you exist... God has emotions and thoughts; I know that it's fact. Just like how God loves us. LOVE IS AN EMOTION. I know it deep down inside me. Just like people can't prove that God exists but people still believe in him.

God also hates all those who sin against Him. I know this not because of "deductive reasoning" but because THE BIBLE TELLS ME SO.

Why do you hate God so much that you refuse to read His Word, which He provided for you?

Dim by Design · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

So you are saying you gain your knowledge of God by "deductive reasoning" instead of by reading the 1,500-page Book HE GAVE US to TELL US about Him.

Yes?

God has a contract with humans. Those who follow all of His 600+ COMMANDS get to spend eternity praising Him for existing and being perfect, and serving Him as He decrees.

Those who disobey any of His COMMANDS will spend eternity being burned alive in His Lake of Fire, in unending agony.

Just asking nicely to be Saved isn't gonna cut it. You must repent. Do you know what that means?

Let me save you some wasted typing. Repentance is understanding that your sins are selfish and wrong and evil, just as YOU are (being human), and that every time you sin you SPIT IN GOD'S FACE. He died temporarily for you, the ultimate sacrifice, for three whole days until He decided to resurrect Himself.

You then beg God for forgiveness, and, as Jesus told the adulterous woman, "SIN NO MORE".

EVER.

Tell me, Sparky, how can you know for sure whether you are sinning if you don't know what God's COMMANDS are? Are you going to guess at what those are, too?

Being human is a sin.

Pastor Ezekiel · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dim by Design

Being human is a sin.

Post the Scripture or apologize to Jesus.

Dim by Design · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

God also hates all those who sin against Him. I know this not because of "deductive reasoning" but because THE BIBLE TELLS ME SO.

Why do you hate God so much that you refuse to read His Word, which He provided for you?

Hate is an emotion. And you said that God hates sinners.

Zechariah Smyth · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dim by Design

Being human is a sin.

Being stupid is a shame...shame on you.

You claim a lot of things about God. Please post ONE verse that supports your philosophical asshattery.

YiC,

Z. Smyth

Pastor Ezekiel · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dim by Design

Hate is an emotion. And you said that God hates sinners.

God hates you, I can promise you that, boy.

Jedediah · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dim by Design

Being human is a sin.

We are born into sin (Psalm 51:5, Romans 3:23, etc.), but once we accept Jesus' kind offer of Redemption, we are sin-free.

Psalm 119:1-3
ALEPH. Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.
Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

When we are made perfect in Christ, we cannot be considered to be the same person we were before we were washed in His Blood.

II Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

I Peter 1:22-23
Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Although we have not yet shuffled off this mortal coil and joined Jesus in Heaven, pressed against His bosom and telling Him how much we love Him, we are already sin-free, perfect children of God. And as such, it is quite literally impossible for us to sin! Even if I wanted to sin, I would not be able to do so because my every thought, word, and deed is guided by the Holy Spirit! Hosanna!

I John 3:6-9
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Indeed, as Jesus' elect - predestined and called to join Him for all eternity in Heaven from the time before we were a gleam in our parents' eyes - our actions are always justified, even if sassy-mouthed unsaved trash like yourself lack the discernment to comprehend the ways by which the Holy Spirit acts in each and every one of us.

Romans 8:30-33
Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

I will pray for you, that you might seek the LORD's face and attain such a state of perfection as myself and my Brothers and Sisters in Christ.

Rev. M. Rodimer · **Re: Hello, this is important. -** 03-13-2011, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dim by Design

Hate is an emotion. And you said that God hates sinners.

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it, kid?

I didn't say God has no emotions. I said I know what I know of God from the Bible, and that you apparently think you know things about God because you "deduce" them from things other people say or what you want to believe.

Why haven't you answered any of my questions?