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Default CAN A MAN BE A BORN AGAIN VIRGIN? - 06-15-2007, 03:25 AM

This gentleman in my Bible class really stumped me! He says he lived a life of sexual immorality and debauchery, frequenting colored prostitutes, snorting drugs off of their nether portions and masturbating to pornography of pregnant women.

He has since found Jesus, been saved and baptised and has been chaste for 3 years. In the eyes of the Lord, is he a virgin?
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Default Re: CAN A MAN BE A BORN AGAIN VIRGIN? - 06-15-2007, 03:30 AM

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This gentleman in my Bible class really stumped me! He says he lived a life of sexual immorality and debauchery, frequenting colored prostitutes, snorting drugs off of their nether portions and masturbating to pornography of pregnant women.

He has since found Jesus, been saved and baptised and has been chaste for 3 years. In the eyes of the Lord, is he a virgin?
Of course.


Leave it to an empty-headed woman to get stumped on such a no-brainer....


Did your husband give you permission to teach in your false church, or is he a fairy?

1 Corinthians 14:34-36
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.


Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: CAN A MAN BE A BORN AGAIN VIRGIN? - 06-15-2007, 03:35 AM

Um, can you be more specific? I told him I'd get back to him shortly. With my recently blackened eyes it is so hard to read scripture!
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Um, can you be more specific? I told him I'd get back to him shortly. With my recently blackened eyes it is so hard to read scripture!
The answer to your question depends on whether the Man in questioned has been Saved by the Blood of the Lamb. If he isn't, then all bets are off. If you weren't a bubble head trying to do a Man's job, you'd know that there are several scriptural references that could bring the point home.

1 Peter 1:13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
1:14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
1:15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
1:17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:
1:18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
1:21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
1:24 For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:


If you can't see the Bible, you'd best stay in the kitchen.


Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: CAN A MAN BE A BORN AGAIN VIRGIN? - 06-15-2007, 03:56 AM

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The answer to your question depends on whether the Man in questioned has been Saved by the Blood of the Lamb. If he isn't, then all bets are off. If you weren't a bubble head trying to do a Man's job, you'd know that there are several scriptural references that could bring the point home.

1 Peter 1:13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
1:14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
1:15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
1:17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:
1:18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
1:21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
1:24 For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:

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PRAISE JESUS! Then I'm a virgin too!!! GLORY!
Stop your gloating! All daughters of Eve bear the inherited blame for original sin. And being a virgin is fine, if your man values or desires it. But according to Paul, all women are essentially nothing more that sex toys for men. Perhaps a frigid woman is committing the gravest sin of all?


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Stop your gloating! All daughters of Eve bear the inherited blame for original sin. And being a virgin is fine, if your man values or desires it. But according to Paul, all women are essentially nothing more that sex toys for men. Perhaps a frigid woman is committing the gravest sin of all?
And she isn't even Saved© yet! Until that day (if it ever should arrive), she is nothing less then an unsaved harlot.

And an uppity one at that.


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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Stop your gloating! All daughters of Eve bear the inherited blame for original sin. And being a virgin is fine, if your man values or desires it. But according to Paul, all women are essentially nothing more that sex toys for men. Perhaps a frigid woman is committing the gravest sin of all?

Well at least I've got those covered!

Now, the next question I'm frequently asked: Is it adultery if, in a dream, my child's soccer coach disrobes and smothers me with vegetable dip?
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Now, the next question I'm frequently asked: Is it adultery if, in a dream, my child's soccer coach disrobes and smothers me with vegetable dip?
I suggest something wild: let us see what Jesus thinks

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28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
It would seem to me that you are indeed committing adultery and need absolution. A healthy tithe will certainly put you in better favor with Jesus, I am sure -- along with repentance. Speak with a pastor at once!


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It would seem to me that you are indeed committing adultery and need absolution. A healthy tithe will certainly put you in better favor with Jesus, I am sure -- along with repentance. Speak with a pastor at once!
The other day I was thinking about John 8, and the woman caught in the act of adultery. John 8:4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.

Then, Jesus let the woman go.

11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

So, if you remember in Matthew 5:28, Jesus says if you think about having sex with someone it could be adultery; but then He let the adulteress off, without a warning... so... we see that Jesus was against the death penalty for adultery.

My only question about this story is:

Where was the man who the woman was having the adultery? If the crowd brought a woman caught in the very act, why didn't they also bring the man to be stoned?

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Default Re: CAN A MAN BE A BORN AGAIN VIRGIN? - 06-15-2007, 08:03 PM

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Where was the man who the woman was having the adultery?
Perhaps he was the one who brought her?

And why was everybody always getting stoned? Honestly, people! Lay down the peace pipe and pick up the Lord's battle axe!
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Default Re: CAN A MAN BE A BORN AGAIN VIRGIN? - 06-16-2007, 12:01 PM

Ma'am Apple Sucker....you seem to think about sex an awful lot. I can't help but wonder if you aren't getting nearly as much as you make out that you are?
Generally it is those who are somewhat deprived of sexual activity that seem to talk about it as much as you do...
Just wondering.



Wake up and smell the 21st Century!!

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Default Re: CAN A MAN BE A BORN AGAIN VIRGIN? - 06-18-2007, 02:45 PM

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Now, the next question I'm frequently asked: Is it adultery if, in a dream, my child's soccer coach disrobes and smothers me with vegetable dip?
Matt. 15: 19
19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:



Is your soccer coach married?
Are you married (I have to assume so since you have a child!)?
If so, are these thoughts originating from your heart?

I guess we need to ask, "where do dreams come from" to find out if you are commiting adultery or not. That is, do dreams come from the heart or somewhere else?

If they come from your heart, then you probably are commiting adultery and might need to talk to your pastor. I mean, if a guy cant commit adultery in his heart, then women surely cant.

Good luck!

PS. Is your son's soccer coach a Negro?
PPS. I have to assume its a SON that you have in soccer ... since they are in sports and cavorting around in shorts! Or do you have a Soccer Skirt League in your area too?


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Default Re: CAN A MAN BE A BORN AGAIN VIRGIN? - 06-20-2007, 02:28 PM

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Well at least I've got those covered!

Now, the next question I'm frequently asked: Is it adultery if, in a dream, my child's soccer coach disrobes and smothers me with vegetable dip?
What flavor vegetable dip?

I have a tub of some hippy-made hummus in my fridge that needs using up.
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Default Re: CAN A MAN BE A BORN AGAIN VIRGIN? - 06-22-2007, 12:10 AM

I think that it is only adultery if you had a sexual relationship with the man.

Not if you dream being smothered in Ranch...


Are you perchance food obsessed and/or obese?
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Default Re: CAN A MAN BE A BORN AGAIN VIRGIN? - 06-22-2007, 02:00 AM

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PS. Is your son's soccer coach a Negro?

What difference does it make if he is!?


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Default Re: CAN A MAN BE A BORN AGAIN VIRGIN? - 06-22-2007, 02:29 AM

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What difference does it make if he is!?



Andrew, it matters because he is not a true follower of the bible, does it not also say that Jesus loves everyone? Yes it does.

Does the religion say to not judge others, that god himself should be the only one to judge them? Yes it does.
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Default Re: CAN A MAN BE A BORN AGAIN VIRGIN? - 06-22-2007, 02:50 AM

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Andrew, it matters because he is not a true follower of the bible, does it not also say that Jesus loves everyone? Yes it does.

Does the religion say to not judge others, that god himself should be the only one to judge them? Yes it does.

How would you know hes not a true follower of the bible, eh?


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Default Re: CAN A MAN BE A BORN AGAIN VIRGIN? - 06-22-2007, 02:55 AM

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How would you know hes not a true follower of the bible, eh?
A true follower would follow and respect ALL LAWS AND ASPECTS of the bible they follow.


By judging others, he is doing the job of the one he worships that he should not be doing. This just shows that.
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Default Re: CAN A MAN BE A BORN AGAIN VIRGIN? - 06-22-2007, 03:10 AM

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A true follower would follow and respect ALL LAWS AND ASPECTS of the bible they follow.


By judging others, he is doing the job of the one he worships that he should not be doing. This just shows that.


well it dident say anything about him judgeing someone..but im sure hes done it before but that still has nothing to do with him being of african descent


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