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Religious politics has been a story of strange bedfellows uniting against a common evil. In the 19th century, Protestant churches united to fight Catholics. In the 20th, Catholics and Protestants united to fight non-Christians. In the 21st, we see all religions uniting to fight against scientists:
Youngstown, Ohio students are learning creationism in school with materials from a Islamic, Holocaust-denying group accused of being a sex cult...
Harun Yahya, whom The Daily Beast has covered before, is a pseudonym for Adnan Oktar, a creationist cult leader and Islamic televangelist who owns Turkey’s A9 TV channel.

Anne Ross Solberg, an expert on Yahya, explained in a paper that while Oktar uses many of the same arguments as Christian creationists, and “undoubtedly takes inspiration from American-style creationism, Yahya’s creationism is far from just an American import” (PDF). He’s trying to prove that science backs up Islam.

The message of Yahya is thus that science does not only confirm the existence of an intelligent designer, but divine creation as revealed by Allah,” Solberg writes.

Oktar has also hinted that he’s the Mahdi, a messianic figure in Islam, whose coming will signal the end times, and that his fight against evolution is part of fighting Islam’s Antichrist, the Dajjal.
Most likely Republicans are working with him because he knows more about science than scientists. On the other hand, they might be playing along because they got blackmailed:
Oktar has been accused of blackmail where he snared powerful people with sex.

As the criminal indictment vividly illustrates, young girls were lured into sex parties with the promise of being admitted to the group, but ended up having to perform sexual acts with men of influence, whom the group needed for its economic and political success,” wrote the New Humanist, describing the charges against Oktar. “The encounters were filmed and used to coerce the men in question to act in the group’s interest.



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This is what happens when you loosen up regulations and let people teach based not on valid information, but on personal belief. We know that personal belief, no matter how sincerely held or deeply felt, simply cannot replace fact, and yet these religious nutjobs don't care. They'll do whatever they can to sneak in their personal faith under the guise of education in order to appease their own fears - the root of their faith. This is number 358 why we homeschool. We use the only resource that has been proven to be true, trusted above all others around the world:



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Religious politics has been a story of strange bedfellows uniting against a common evil. In the 19th century, Protestant churches united to fight Catholics. In the 20th, Catholics and Protestants united to fight non-Christians. In the 21st, we see all religions uniting to fight against scientists:
Youngstown, Ohio students are learning creationism in school with materials from a Islamic, Holocaust-denying group accused of being a sex cult..
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This is what happens when you loosen up regulations and let people teach based not on valid information, but on personal belief. We know that personal belief, no matter how sincerely held or deeply felt, simply cannot replace fact, and yet these religious nutjobs don't care. They'll do whatever they can to sneak in their personal faith under the guise of education in order to appease their own fears - the root of their faith. This is number 358 why we homeschool. We use the only resource that has been proven to be true, trusted above all others around the world:
These are some very important points. In my undergraduate introduction to anthropology class I do get a share of students complaining that they wish that creationism was taught together with or even altogether replacing evolution. My answer to that usually is, that I do not have time in one short semester to present all creation stories of all religions that I am aware of, but if they wish to then we can mention some of the creation stories from different continents, like the Hinduist for Asia, Norse Poetic Edda for Europe, and then some African, Australian and Native American ones.

Sadly, these students never want to talk to me again and usually drop the class.


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These are some very important points. In my undergraduate introduction to anthropology class I do get a share of students complaining that they wish that creationism was taught together with or even altogether replacing evolution. My answer to that usually is, that I do not have time in one short semester to present all creation stories of all religions that I am aware of, but if they wish to then we can mention some of the creation stories from different continents, like the Hinduist for Asia, Norse Poetic Edda for Europe, and then some African, Australian and Native American ones.

Sadly, these students never want to talk to me again and usually drop the class.

Why would you need to or even want to teach all those pagan fairy tales? You have the One, the True, the First, the Only creation story in the Bible.


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Why would you need to or even want to teach all those pagan fairy tales?
I bet Islamic creationists will do a better job than those cucks we've trusted to teach creationism so far.

Christians cuckservatives can hardly convince kids to pull their pants up. Islamic conservatives convince kids to blow them selves up.

Clearly they're good at their job.


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