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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 12-07-2008, 06:21 PM

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really about that not changing the bible to to your own words and junk who are you to talk you curse women who are raped unwillingly, since when does that make you better then catholic, and second of all, i am catholic yes but i don't really go to church much i don't even remember my baptism for i was baptised when i was 8 months old, so it isn't even my choice. further more gay is against the word of god. honestly when i first saw the website i thought this was going to be a good godly website that i could find fellowship, not persecution for questioning how women who get raped could be whores. and to see such cruel and evil opinons on women is a disgrace. what kind of christians are you who persecute rape victims, and then to claim that the man did no crime is completely against the word of god. i don't go to church, but i do read the bible and try my best to live the way that jesus did, not claim that rape victims are whores. really you so called christians are nothing more then a pathetic cult wannabes. i should have known that when i saw on the home page unsaved unwelcome. christians are supposed to good to fellow man and women alike not cruel to those who disagree on something as stupid as rape. shame on you for doing the work of satan!!!
GOD says females are worth less than men.

And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver. -- Leviticus 27:6

They're also supposed to submit to their Godly male superiors:

Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. -Ephesians 5:22-24

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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 12-07-2008, 06:21 PM

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I don't think we have a text filter strong enough for that kind of language.
A text filter that translated that kind of language into English would be good.
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Ok... let me ask you so-called christians something here, how is it that you feel that you are speaking the word of god when you say that because some women got raped and pregnant that she is a whore for not wanting to marry him, that does not make her a whore, it is normal.
We're just following what the Bible says:
Deuteronomy 22:28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

And are you trying to defend fetus murder?
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...and furthermore, what kind of bullshit bible are you reading that says its ok for a man to rape a women but its not ok for the women who is pregnant to have an abortion
You are defending fetus murder. Are you sure you're a Catholic? Does your priest know about your pro-murder stance?
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twisting the bibles word...
We get that accusation a lot. If we're twisting the Bible, what does it actually say? How do you interpret Deuteronomy 22?
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the vast majority of people don't follow your sorry excuse of religion
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so i finish this up by telling those who believe this trash, you who believe this bullshit will go to hell for your un-kindness to women who are raped by your fellow man.
And I finish by telling you that you will go to Hell for being a Papist who rejects God's word and supports murder.
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Because you're unsaved and not welcome?
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as good christians you should do as jesus did and go forth and speak the word of god
How, exactly? Maybe we should set up an internet discussion forum where people can approach us with questions and we can advise them, using relevant quotes from God's Word? Oh, wait...


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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 12-07-2008, 06:22 PM

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really about that not changing the bible to to your own words and junk who are you to talk you curse women who are raped unwillingly, since when does that make you better then catholic, and second of all, i am catholic yes but i don't really go to church much i don't even remember my baptism for i was baptised when i was 8 months old, so it isn't even my choice. further more gay is against the word of god. honestly when i first saw the website i thought this was going to be a good godly website that i could find fellowship, not persecution for questioning how women who get raped could be whores. and to see such cruel and evil opinons on women is a disgrace. what kind of christians are you who persecute rape victims, and then to claim that the man did no crime is completely against the word of god. i don't go to church, but i do read the bible and try my best to live the way that jesus did, not claim that rape victims are whores. really you so called christians are nothing more then a pathetic cult wannabes. i should have known that when i saw on the home page unsaved unwelcome. christians are supposed to good to fellow man and women alike not cruel to those who disagree on something as stupid as rape. shame on you for doing the work of satan!!!
They're just following the KJV Bible, like true Christians should do...

Deuteronomy 22
28If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
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What does the Bible say to do if a woman rapes a man?
I don't have a scriptural answer for you, but I suspect that you either marry her or kill her.


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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 12-07-2008, 09:43 PM

i'm not saying abortion is a good thing i don't think its right to have a child killed before it is even born what i am against is having a women who has been raped being forced to marry her rapist and if she doesn't then you say kill her?!? that is not the word of god and as for women being worth less then men it is you twisting the word of god into what you wife beaters want to hear. but listen to me now, assume what you are telling me is correct, so if i were to rape your wife and get her pregnant what then huh what would you rather have her keep the child and havee you and her raise it as your own or kill her for being a "whore" for not marrying me and leaving your sexist ass? i am against abortion but forcing rape victims to marry there rapists is not the word of god that is wrong and that does not fall into the women should do as their husbands say seeing as the parents are not there husband and the rapist is not the husband and statics are most of the rape victims have almost nevere even met their attackers other then maybe bumping into them at the bus stop or something so she has every right to not marry him and as for that catholic thing i already said i was baptised at a young age, i read the bible yes, and i try to live the life the jesus would and i am not claiming to be without sin, i just don't think you are being the best you christian you can be by condeming rape victims for not marrying their rapists, and may i remind you it is not your choice whos to hell and for what but it is gods choice. i just pray that when you die and are kneeling at the feet of god awaiting judgement that a girl much like the ones you are condeming now in this forum, i hope she is ahead of you and instead of her going to hell for that you go to hell for being judgemental and sexist
however it is a shame that god will forgive you for your sins if you ask and truely believe what you have said and done is wrong and sinful
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 12-07-2008, 09:46 PM

also who is says that the kjv bible is the right oone huh just because you believe it is right doesn't mean it is... people used to think the people who thought air was what people breathed and that it was real were crazy.
and now look you say that air is a mith and you get sent to the pychoward just because some people say its the trueth doesn't mean that it is
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 12-07-2008, 09:58 PM

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also who is says that the kjv bible is the right oone huh just because you believe it is right doesn't mean it is...
Yes it does. KJV1611 is God's inerrant word. The KJV was dictated by God to the King of England and Scotland; it did away with all the mistakes that there had been in past issues. God's Word is timeless.
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I am not bothered about what your parents believed.
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I didn't understand any of that. Are you some sort of retard? What's wrong with your English? Don't they teach you anything in Canukistan?




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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 12-14-2008, 07:54 PM

so what you all people are saying, if i rape your daughters you will ask me to join your family? so you want your daughter to be with a man that she hates more than anything else in the world for the rest of her life? you want your own flesh and blood, your daughter and your grandchild be suffering for the rest of their lives? You do realize that she will probably end up killing her self OR her baby.....or maybe both.

hehe that's funny, SO what you are saying is that you care more about what your "friends" going to talk behind your back than your daughter? if that's so i feel really sorry for all of you, i am sure your children will hate you and that's such a wonderfull thing, isn't it? but hey at least you won't have to be embarassed because of that BAD girl who got raped, who will never be the same, whose life is completely destroyed.

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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 12-14-2008, 08:47 PM

Yeah, some of the stuff you lot have said is just sickening. Even Jesus would be against it. I think your problem is that you take the bible a bit too seriously.
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Yeah, some of the stuff you lot have said is just sickening. Even Jesus would be against it. I think your problem is that you take the bible a bit too seriously.
Do you have any scripture to back up your assertions?



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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 12-14-2008, 10:07 PM

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Yeah, some of the stuff you lot have said is just sickening. Even Jesus would be against it. I think your problem is that you take the bible a bit too seriously.
Oh. And you'd rather just ignore it? What is it that you specifically read in the Bible that contradicts ANYTHING we say? Nothing. The Bible says what it says.


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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 12-14-2008, 10:44 PM

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Is the potential husband refusing to pay the 50 Shekels? If so, it's a job for her father and her brothers.

I suggest a copy of Mrs Palin's video on this matter.

I think the first approach should certainly be to the father! I cannot see for a moment why she has the ability to refuse! Her wishes are of absolutely no importance whatsoever.
Why not just kill the rapist????????????????????????
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 12-15-2008, 12:00 AM

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Why not just kill the rapist????????????????????????
Because it's a woman's fault if she is raped. CAN'T YOU READ?!?!?!? Even the backward mudslums understand that much. Didn't you read about the young girl who was gang-raped and they just stoned her to death? It's probably still a current news item.

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Yeah, some of the stuff you lot have said is just sickening. Even Jesus would be against it. I think your problem is that you take the bible a bit too seriously.
How is it possible to take God's Word "too seriously?" He created the entire world and had His only begotten son tortured and (temporarily) killed for my sins! Don't you think that He deserves your complete attention and obedience??

I'm guessing that endless hours in your parent's basement playing "mario" games has turned your brain to mush.


Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 12-15-2008, 08:52 AM

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Actually Im 18 not 12 or 13 frickin idiot and do you honestly think i care what you crazy christians think of me?
We're not the ones whom are crazy. You are blind without the Light of God to guide you. You are the crazy one.

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No its YOU who are weak. The one enslaved by a love of sin. To resist sin over and over again, to resist sinful urges to resist instant gratification to be rewarded in heaven... To CONTINUE to constantly obey God as we should EVEN when the heathens persecute us IS NOT WEAK. Our faith is strong. And it makes us strong.

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No if I had it my way men and woman would be equal woman can do anything men can
Thats a HORRIBLE idea. It is EXTREMELY important that both sexes are very different as every NORMAL Godly person knows. How can we retain our differences as men, and women with gender equality?

Need I tell you of Eve and the original sin?

1 Timothy 2:13
13For Adam was first formed, then Eve

Genesis 2:23
23And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

This explains why men come before women.

Genesis 3
1Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

Genesis 3
2And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

Genesis 3
6And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

This is why the original sin is the womans.

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Exodus 21:22-23
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If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.

Proverbs 6:16-17
17A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

God hates abortionists, and people whom encourage abortion.



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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 12-29-2008, 04:29 AM

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when this girl was probably dressed as a whore and just asking to be raped. If girls didn't dress like prostitutes and sluts, poor men like this wouldnt fall into their trap.
(1) You assume she was dressed like a slut. (No picture to substantiate that claim.) (2) You believe guys only fall into traps because the girl dresses in a manner which leads them on. (False)

Most rapes are committed by those obsessed to stick something where it does not belong. By saying it's her fault is only justifying that his actions are okay as long as there's someone available to blame them on.

After reading numerous posts, it's almost as if your organization imitates those who persecuted Jesus and sentenced Him to death.
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Homosexuals?
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After reading numerous posts, it's almost as if your organization imitates those who persecuted Jesus and sentenced Him to death.
Are you calling us joos?


Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 12-30-2008, 09:02 PM

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(1) You assume she was dressed like a slut. (No picture to substantiate that claim.)
So where's your picture to prove she didn't dress like a slut? Women have been beguiling men since Eve tricked Adam into eating the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, so I for one am not going to buy into the liberal knee-jerk assumption that rape is all the man's fault.

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(2) You believe guys only fall into traps because the girl dresses in a manner which leads them on. (False)
Have you read the Bible? It happens over and over and over again. Eve tempted Adam. Delilah used her female wiles to get Samson to reveal the secret of his strength. Sarah convinced Abraham to send his son into the wilderness to die. King Solomon's wives beguiled the wisest man in history into idol worship. Jezebel did the same to Ahab. Even Mary, who was blessed among women, was nothing to Jesus:

And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? John 2:3-4



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