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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 06-07-2010, 09:02 AM

perhaps in your twisted BAPTIST opinion, I'm wrong, but do you really honestly think I care?

I was raised in my own set of beliefs and GENERALLY along with 99.9% of society, sorry to bust your bubble there Sir, RAPISTS are jailed. Perhaps where your church is located, rape is commendable along with inbreeding, but I digress.

You can sit there and call me all the names you want, spoken as a true HUMANITARIAN and CHRISTIAN, I pray for you tonight, all of you.

I know MY bible. Sex before marriage is a sin. PERIOD. As for all of the others on here who are mocking all of you for your beliefs, that's their 2 cents. Alas, they do bring up valid points.

If any of you came near my babies there would be hell to pay because remember one thing, EVERYTHING, and I do mean EVERYTHING you do, will be brought up to subject the day you approach God and he questions whether or not to allow you into heaven. He is the final judge. NOT YOU, or ME, nor anyone else.

I know when that day comes, I'll pass through because I treat people the way I'd like to be treated. Can you say the same? Of course you may think you are safe, but I can guarantee many would disagree. In the end though, as long as I know I will be in heaven with all of my loved ones, that's all that matters to me.

Because I live life to the fullest every day and treat others the way I'd like to be treated. Because that's the way it's supposed to be. That's the way JESUS taught me.

I bid you good evening and farewell.
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 06-07-2010, 09:13 AM

Here is what people who don't belong to this church need to understand.

1. The people of this church follow the bible word for word. Literally.

Literally.

2. Arguing what you think Jesus is with them is pointless, because since they believe everything in the Bible, EVERYTHING, they are some of the few people in the WORLD who can actually use bible verses without being hypocrites.

3. In this board, if you don't have the bible verse to back up your claim, you're pretty much wrong. All of these lovey-dovey images and ideas of jesus are wrong, because they stemmed from christians who cherry picked the good stuff from the bad stuff, which is what these people don't like. They take EVERYTHING from the bible, and believe it with frightening...umm.. enthusiasm.

4. I think they are terrible human beings for what they believe... but that is besides the point. What everyone has been doing is trying to fight in their territory. Since they believe EVERYTHING in the bible, you can't argue with them.. because they're technically right. If you are trying to convince them Jesus is a certain way, but an actual bible verse says otherwise... considering the opposing party actually believes the entire book... you're wrong, and they're right. It's the same exact way as if you were arguing about something in the field of science, the only difference being... well I should say in this case that's the only similarity, because both subjects are pretty much polar opposite in every way.

In conclusion... just let them be, no matter how much it pains you how wrong you think they are... in this particular battle, you can't win.

P.S., However; they don't take into account different translations I've noticed. I've seen many posts saying "No, it doesn't say this, it says THIS. See how the comma is in a different place and gives it a whole new meaning? That's what WE believe, yours is wrong." Then that stems into what makes one version better than the other, blah blah blah, pointless stuff to argue considering I'm in their realm, and what governs the rules are verses in the Bible, which I can't compete with.

In my most final conclusion-y conclusion, just forget about it. Leave them be. In their realm, what rules are Bible versus, and subsequently, that means they're right xD.

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Much of the responses to people in obvious objection to your opinions have ended in you (collective you) calling them: witches, whores/sluts, demons, etc. Why do you use such hurtful language to people who aren't "witches," who most likely aren't sexually promiscuous, and who obviously aren't satan possessed. I can tell you right now I don't worship satan or sleep around. Are you going to call me names even though I've approached your forum calmly even though I could have reacted like every single other yahoo you've seen in the past 2 years on this thread? It would make me in my
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 06-07-2010, 09:33 AM

So, I was brought up Baptist for most of my young life. I will say it was instrument to my not being involved in any devious activities as a young person. Now, on to this whole subject. Some of you said that this marriage should be completely condoned, based partly on the fact that she was mostly asking for it. Dressing up slutty, all that nonsense. Now take this into mind: does it not say, somewhere in the Bible, that we were created to rule above other animals? Do forgive me for not having the direct quotation handy, but you would all agree that I am correct in that statement, correct? And what are the qualities that separate us humans from the rest of the animal kingdom? A higher consciousness, one that is aware of a sense of morality, right and wrong, the ability to resist temptation, am I still correct? In fact, our ability to control when we mate is one of the key differences between us and the animals.

So, to be honest, the girl should not be the one at fault here. The male in this case is old enough to realize that not only is this girl underage, but is still incapable of making her own life decisions, and it was she who was subjugated to his will when he was a full-grown Christian man who should have resisted his desires and taken a more proper course. She is not to blame in the least, and should not be obligated to bond her life in marriage with such an irresponsible and possibly sick-minded adult, nor should she have the need to keep the child, though certainly it would be better to adopt it rather than abort it, that way she gives both the child a life still and is able to continue herself to recovery, education and religious studies in which to find solace.
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 06-07-2010, 09:43 PM

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Here is what people who don't belong to this church need to understand.

1. The people of this church follow the bible word for word. Literally.

Literally.

2. Arguing what you think Jesus is with them is pointless, because since they believe everything in the Bible, EVERYTHING, they are some of the few people in the WORLD who can actually use bible verses without being hypocrites.

3. In this board, if you don't have the bible verse to back up your claim, you're pretty much wrong. All of these lovey-dovey images and ideas of jesus are wrong, because they stemmed from christians who cherry picked the good stuff from the bad stuff, which is what these people don't like. They take EVERYTHING from the bible, and believe it with frightening...umm.. enthusiasm.

4. I think they are terrible human beings for what they believe... but that is besides the point. What everyone has been doing is trying to fight in their territory. Since they believe EVERYTHING in the bible, you can't argue with them.. because they're technically right. If you are trying to convince them Jesus is a certain way, but an actual bible verse says otherwise... considering the opposing party actually believes the entire book... you're wrong, and they're right. It's the same exact way as if you were arguing about something in the field of science, the only difference being... well I should say in this case that's the only similarity, because both subjects are pretty much polar opposite in every way.

In conclusion... just let them be, no matter how much it pains you how wrong you think they are... in this particular battle, you can't win.

P.S., However; they don't take into account different translations I've noticed. I've seen many posts saying "No, it doesn't say this, it says THIS. See how the comma is in a different place and gives it a whole new meaning? That's what WE believe, yours is wrong." Then that stems into what makes one version better than the other, blah blah blah, pointless stuff to argue considering I'm in their realm, and what governs the rules are verses in the Bible, which I can't compete with.

In my most final conclusion-y conclusion, just forget about it. Leave them be. In their realm, what rules are Bible versus, and subsequently, that means they're right xD.

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Much of the responses to people in obvious objection to your opinions have ended in you (collective you) calling them: witches, whores/sluts, demons, etc. Why do you use such hurtful language to people who aren't "witches," who most likely aren't sexually promiscuous, and who obviously aren't satan possessed. I can tell you right now I don't worship satan or sleep around. Are you going to call me names even though I've approached your forum calmly even though I could have reacted like every single other yahoo you've seen in the past 2 years on this thread? It would make me in my
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So, I was brought up Baptist for most of my young life. I will say it was instrument to my not being involved in any devious activities as a young person. Now, on to this whole subject. Some of you said that this marriage should be completely condoned, based partly on the fact that she was mostly asking for it. Dressing up slutty, all that nonsense. Now take this into mind: does it not say, somewhere in the Bible, that we were created to rule above other animals? Do forgive me for not having the direct quotation handy, but you would all agree that I am correct in that statement, correct? And what are the qualities that separate us humans from the rest of the animal kingdom? A higher consciousness, one that is aware of a sense of morality, right and wrong, the ability to resist temptation, am I still correct? In fact, our ability to control when we mate is one of the key differences between us and the animals.

So, to be honest, the girl should not be the one at fault here. The male in this case is old enough to realize that not only is this girl underage, but is still incapable of making her own life decisions, and it was she who was subjugated to his will when he was a full-grown Christian man who should have resisted his desires and taken a more proper course. She is not to blame in the least, and should not be obligated to bond her life in marriage with such an irresponsible and possibly sick-minded adult, nor should she have the need to keep the child, though certainly it would be better to adopt it rather than abort it, that way she gives both the child a life still and is able to continue herself to recovery, education and religious studies in which to find solace.
So what exactly happened to your Baptist upbringing? Or was it one of those fuzzy love-fest churches that call themselves Baptist?

Read the Bible, it's been repeated continuously throughout this thread. What does God have to say about rape? Whether or not you find it offensive is of no matter. If you have a problem with Gods rules, take it up with him.


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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 06-19-2010, 11:13 PM

Raping someone is a sin, and the rapist will burn in hell. Jesus taught us to love, where does love come into forcing someone into having sex with you, into abusing someone's body? God judges us all come judgement day. He will count our good abd bad deeds. Does anyone really think forcing a woman into having sex with you will count as a good deed? You may have stopped masturbating, you may have stopped using drugs. You may have started praying and doing good deeds. Nothing will wash away the shame of your bad deeds, any any and every man that instead of marrying the woman he desires or giving her brotherly love in the way Jesus taught us rapes her, will be damed to hell for eternity.

The bible was written by men, and rewritten, ans rewritten again. But the message of Jesus stays the same, and it's love. Forcing someone into something he or she does not desire, hurting someone, is not love, it's evil. And everyone that does it, any everyone that defends, it WILL burn in HELL. It won't matter if your clutch and read your bible every night, it won't matter if you pretend to be a good christian. You will burn in hell for sideing with someone who has harmed another human being.
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 06-20-2010, 03:39 AM

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Raping someone is a sin, and the rapist will burn in hell. Jesus taught us to love, where does love come into forcing someone into having sex with you, into abusing someone's body? God judges us all come judgement day. He will count our good abd bad deeds. Does anyone really think forcing a woman into having sex with you will count as a good deed? You may have stopped masturbating, you may have stopped using drugs. You may have started praying and doing good deeds. Nothing will wash away the shame of your bad deeds, any any and every man that instead of marrying the woman he desires or giving her brotherly love in the way Jesus taught us rapes her, will be damed to hell for eternity.

The bible was written by men, and rewritten, ans rewritten again. But the message of Jesus stays the same, and it's love. Forcing someone into something he or she does not desire, hurting someone, is not love, it's evil. And everyone that does it, any everyone that defends, it WILL burn in HELL. It won't matter if your clutch and read your bible every night, it won't matter if you pretend to be a good christian. You will burn in hell for sideing with someone who has harmed another human being.
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 06-22-2010, 12:54 AM

Are you piffleing serious!?!!?!? you are all being fanantics!, people like you are turning gods will into a piffleing cult so piffle you all! this is modern times. its shit like this that human rights are good for! you cant buy anyone, So piffle you all!
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Are you piffleing serious!?!!?!? you are all being fanantics!, people like you are turning gods will into a piffleing cult so piffle you all! this is modern times. its shit like this that human rights are good for! you cant buy anyone, So piffle you all!
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And what about God's rights? If you go against the Will of God under the guise of "human rights", then maybe it's time to wonder if those rights really protect humans and not some left-wing socio-commumist agenda.

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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 06-22-2010, 09:40 AM

Just a question, say hypothetically my sister was raped, so instead of forcing my sister to marry him i track him down and skin him alive, would my sister still be considered a sinner, seeing how the rapist is in a unmarked shallow grave.
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 06-22-2010, 09:48 AM

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say hypothetically my sister was raped
If your sister associates with strange men dressed like a slut, then that's not a hypothetical scenario at all.

No True Christian™ woman has ever been raped. That's because a) they don't dress like sluts and b) God protects them.

So if your sister a) dresses like a slut and b) disavows God, then there's a pretty good chance that she'll be raped.

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so instead of forcing my sister to marry him i track him down and skin him alive, would my sister still be considered a sinner, seeing how the rapist is in a unmarked shallow grave.
No, it's the rapist who would be forced to marry your sister. Instead of a quicky/freebie, he now has to take care of her and love her for the rest of his life.

If you killed the rapist, then you would be a murderer and go to prison. Then you yourself would be raped by big hairy men.

And if your sister continued her sinful lifestyle, there's a pretty good chance she'll be raped again. But you won't be there to take revenge, because you'll too busy being sodomized by rapists yourself.

Do you see how your hate leads to a vicious cycle of violence?

Instead of thinking "how can I take revenge on a rapist", why not think "how can I forgive a rapist and give him the chance to redeem himself".


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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 06-22-2010, 10:32 AM

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If your sister associates with strange men dressed like a slut, then that's not a hypothetical scenario at all.

No True Christian™ woman has ever been raped. That's because a) they don't dress like sluts and b) God protects them.

So if your sister a) dresses like a slut and b) disavows God, then there's a pretty good chance that she'll be raped.


No, it's the rapist who would be forced to marry your sister. Instead of a quicky/freebie, he now has to take care of her and love her for the rest of his life.

If you killed the rapist, then you would be a murderer and go to prison. Then you yourself would be raped by big hairy men.

And if your sister continued her sinful lifestyle, there's a pretty good chance she'll be raped again. But you won't be there to take revenge, because you'll too busy being sodomized by rapists yourself.

Do you see how your hate leads to a vicious cycle of violence?

Instead of thinking "how can I take revenge on a rapist", why not think "how can I forgive a rapist and give him the chance to redeem himself".
Nice answer i see what you are saying, but my sister wear any sort of slutty clothing nor act like one, it's just that our town has some less that respectable people in it and you never know what they are going to do next, as for the murder i can't stand rapists they are one of the worst creatures to roam the earth, i don't view them as humans and as such i'll happily go to prison in order to cause suffering behind * imagination to one of them, mind you the sodomy is what has always stopped me from killing one so far.
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 06-22-2010, 12:31 PM

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mind you the sodomy is what has always stopped me from killing one so far.
So: if rape, or rather the prospect of it, stops you from being a murderer, we cannot say that rape is bad in all situations.

The real question here is: if someone who is raped is actually innocent, why did God not put a stop to it?

One can only logically conclude that God did not feel the person in question is innocent.


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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 06-22-2010, 10:45 PM

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Nice answer i see what you are saying, but my sister wear any sort of slutty clothing nor act like one, it's just that our town has some less that respectable people in it and you never know what they are going to do next, as for the murder i can't stand rapists they are one of the worst creatures to roam the earth, i don't view them as humans and as such i'll happily go to prison in order to cause suffering behind * imagination to one of them, mind you the sodomy is what has always stopped me from killing one so far.
Well, I think most rapists ARE nigras, and God hates nigras.

And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. (Genesis 9:22-25)

Nigras may be some of the worst creatures to roam this earth, but they certainly are humans. Consider that they are descended from Ham, who was the son of Noah, a Godly True Christian™ man.

If you kill a rapist nigra, you will certainly go to hell. Firstly, remember the 10 Commandments.

Thou shalt not kill. (Exodus 20:13)

Also, killing is against the law of the Godly U.S. Government™.

Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. (Romans 13:1)

so if you kill a rapist, you will surely go to jail, where you will doubtless be raped by crazed, lust-filled homer negro bucks. This goes against Biblical rule in several ways. Firstly, you can't have sex with men:

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)

Secondly, you can't have sex with someone you're not married to:

Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. (1 Corinthians 6:18)

And finally, you can't have relations with a nigra.

And Isaac called Jacob, and blessed him, and charged him, and said unto him, Thou shalt not take a wife of the daughters of Canaan. (Genesis 28:1)



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Well, I think most rapists ARE nigras, and God hates nigras.

And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. (Genesis 9:22-25)

Nigras may be some of the worst creatures to roam this earth, but they certainly are humans. Consider that they are descended from Ham, who was the son of Noah, a Godly True Christian™ man.

If you kill a rapist nigra, you will certainly go to hell. Firstly, remember the 10 Commandments.

Thou shalt not kill. (Exodus 20:13)

Also, killing is against the law of the Godly U.S. Government™.

Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. (Romans 13:1)

so if you kill a rapist, you will surely go to jail, where you will doubtless be raped by crazed, lust-filled homer negro bucks. This goes against Biblical rule in several ways. Firstly, you can't have sex with men:

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)

Secondly, you can't have sex with someone you're not married to:

Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. (1 Corinthians 6:18)

And finally, you can't have relations with a nigra.

And Isaac called Jacob, and blessed him, and charged him, and said unto him, Thou shalt not take a wife of the daughters of Canaan. (Genesis 28:1)



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But how is me killing a rapist a bad thing, through the ages many have killed in the name of god, i see this in a way in the name of god, getting rid of one of the devils minoins so as to speak, that and there is no guarantee that i will be raped in prison, who's to say people just don't try after seeing their friend get stabbed, fear can do crazy things to people.

Even then can't i repent the sin i just commitied pray to god to forgive me for what i just did, if a rapist can repent surely i can.
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 06-23-2010, 08:14 AM

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You make it sound like this girl is a 'rape-victim'. Let's be clear here, the ONLY victim of rape is the man. He is the one who let this little temptress tease him into committing sin, and he is the one the courts victimize and throw into prison, when this girl was probably dressed as a whore and just asking to be raped. If girls didn't dress like prostitutes and sluts, poor men like this wouldnt fall into their trap. It's up to the girl to do the right thing, she obviously led this man on, and she should have to deal with the consequences. You play, you pay!

So, a girl, walking down the street. And let me make this clear, there are girls raped all the time, that are NOT dressed as whores!! She's walking down the street, guy comes and attacks her. She's screaming and shouting for help, kicking and fighting back and it's her fault?

Point out the exact phase in the bible that's says this? And the exact phase that says she has to marry the guy? Please, I do not know the bible that well, but I bet that it does NOT in any way mean that it's ok to rape ANYONE!!
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 06-23-2010, 08:24 AM

How about a child? If man rapes a 4 or 11 yo child? Did she deserve that?
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So, a girl, walking down the street. And let me make this clear, there are girls raped all the time, that are NOT dressed as whores!!
That never happens.

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She's walking down the street, guy comes and attacks her. She's screaming and shouting for help, kicking and fighting back and it's her fault?
Read Deuteronomy 22. That chapter also deals with if the girl is not a virgin on her honeymoon.

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15Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate:
16And the damsel's father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her;
17And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city.
18And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him;
19And they shall amerce him in an hundred shekels of silver, and give them unto the father of the damsel, because he hath brought up an evil name upon a virgin of Israel: and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days.
20But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:
21Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.

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Point out the exact phase in the bible that's says this? And the exact phase that says she has to marry the guy? Please, I do not know the bible that well, but I bet that it does NOT in any way mean that it's ok to rape ANYONE!!
Deuteronomy 22
28If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.



Here the Bible says the circumstances under which it is okay to rape. I'm not making this up. If you have a problem with it, take it up with God not me. What you have to do is make sure she has had her unclean time and is not pregnant with another man's seed.



Then it is time to impregnate her.



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Deuteronomy 21 10When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,
11And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
12Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
13And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.
14And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her.
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 06-23-2010, 08:42 AM

I'm sorry, I have to post few times now, since this got to my attention..

You're talking about hate? Hatefull life leads hell and so on.. Also I've been told a million times how god loves everyone, god IS love.

You have a whole section in this forum telling "god hates.." where you can find most of the countries in the world, all kinds of people.. How is that good?

There is no doubt in my mind, that if you people really and truly believe all this stuff, you're in desperate need of help and finding you're sence of reality. I'm so sorry for every poor soul that can not use their own sence of reason and right and wrong. There's no moral in YOUR life, since you can not justify your means your self. If god says kill and rape, you do it. That's being stupid, not religious.

Religions and laws are made to proteck and guide to be good and right to one and other, and you're not doing that. I do wosh that this forum is existing just to tease people and wind them up. But if there's one person who does believe in things like this, I hope you die.
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