[BelieverInGod]

Originally Posted by Spreadable Butter

I completely agree that you have to mean it. But the people here can't sense whether you mean it or not through text. In order to judge a person's true intentions and emotions there needs to be actual contact with the person. So saying that everyone is by default "unsaved" even if their true intentions are to live a life of God and a life that is described in the Bible, isn't that being a little judgmental then? Sure God can see our true intentions, but since you can't does that automatically make me unsaved?

Matthew 7:16-20 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

You were saying?

Oh and intentions mean nothing.
Matthew 7:13-14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Also, I agree that one cannot just praise God; but that they also have to live the life as well. They cannot live in a facade and a double-life. And your point of "If not sinning was impossible, why would Jesus tell people to 'sin no more'?" is a good one. However, I did not imply that we should just roll in the filth of sin and then expect God to save us. But he did die for my sins, did he not? And I'm pretty sure the Bible blatantly points out that he forgives sins. I'm not saying I should live a sinful life then prayer for forgiveness each night. But when we feel we've done wrongdoing and need to seek repentance for it, Jesus clearly pointed out that he'd forgive us. Point in case: I served in the military and there were times that I had to commit sinful acts in order to save my life and those around me. It's not that I was living a sinful life, but it was something I needed forgiveness for.

Jesus forgives once! Oh and why would you commit sinful acts to save your own life? Are you afraid to meet your maker? Sounds like it. Also, if you were Truly Saved© you would not have been able to sin, not even to save your own life. So that tells us that in fact, yes, you are Unsaved Trash.

Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Finally, Psychology is the study of human behavior and lifespan growth. It explains why we may at times act like animals, not giving us excuses to do so. In regards to rape, I believe I've seen a few topics on this forum discussing how rape is the girls' fault and that working on Sundays is more of a sin than raping someone. Seems to be that many of this forum take rape lightly.

We are the sons of the LORD GOD, we are not animals.

No we do not take rape lightly, that would be the liebrals. If we had our choice we would stone people who rape married rapists to death (along with the willing participant) and make them marry any maiden they raped. It's all spelled out in Deuteronomy 22. Are you sure you read your Bible?

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

This republican tells us why bullying is good: because bullies are conservatives and their victims are liberals. His case is airtight:

A Little More on Bullying

I mentioned in a recent post that, like Bonald at Throne and Altar, I actually support bullying under certain circumstances. Let me flesh that out a little more.

Actually, let me just state my rule for bullying: if it's used as a means of enforcing normative behaviors, I'm all for it. And yeah, that means giving shit to fairies and tomboys and so on.

Normative behaviors exist for a reason. Like tradition, social norms tell us provide us a measure of what is good and just, especially for those who are too stupid to figure it out on their own. Social disapproval of immoral behaviors (like homosexuality, adultery, etc.) is often a more powerful disincentive to commit them than legal consequences; there are limits to others' ability to probe into your legal indiscretions, but the stench of a social brand in some degenerate's ass can linger in a community's collective hindbrain for generations. And so it was that, for a long time, it was wholly unnecessary for governments to police morality: communities did it their own damn selves.

Of course, one can say, "Well, who are you to force the norm of traditional family on, say, some good-hearted, hard-working single mother?" But one would be an idiot for saying that, given the abundance of studies (at least one by no less-respected a medical journal than The Lancet, a casual Googling revealed) demonstrating that childen raised in single-family are worse off in pretty much every way: they exhibit higher rates of mental illness, suicide attempts, injury, alcoholism, drug addiction, and all-cause mortality, even after adjusting for socioeconomic status and parents' health.

Traditional societies knew and understood that children did best who were raised in a norm-conforming household; it is only in our (supposedly) enlightened modern society that we make virtuous angels out of the sluts and cads who ruin their kids' lives so that they can find themselves (or whatever). That's why traditional societies ostracized such people while modern societies make movies about them while ignoring all the evil they bring into the world. Likewise with the destruction of traditional gender roles (in the form of flamboyant homosexuals, cross-dressers, and transgender freakazoids).

So to the extent that people bullied today are serial violators of perfectly rational social norms, they ought to be subject to social disapproval -- even quite severely so.

Those who imagine there is a "right" to attend a school without being bullied are deluded: one never has a right to behave however one wishes without consequences.

Accepting this fact is a key step toward maturity. I'm torn on the extent to which this ought to entail physical bullying (certainly, I think it's justified when one is being an asshole about defying social norms, as in the case of the transgender abomination that got his/her ass unceremoniously pummeled into a seizure at a Baltimore-area McDonald's recently for belligerently insisting on using an occupied women's restroom), but I see nothing wrong with quite persistent verbal ribbing.

But to the extent bullying represents mindless, irrational cruelty (for instance, assaulting those whose only crime is being skinny, awkward, smart, or whatever), it ought to be brought under control. Unlike defiance of social norms, being skinny or fat or awkward or smart really doesn't hurt anyone -- and there's no sense in punishing them for it. It's intrinsic to the nature of demographics, after all, that not everyone can be ripped, engaging, and of modest intellect). Of course, that's no reason to have to associate with them (and awkward people really shouldn't have any friends until they learn to go out and make some on their own), but again, it's no reason to subject them to punishment, either. An Unmarried Man has a good post on the topic related to fat (and pregnant) women; it's worth a read.

One may object to my characterization of bullying in defense of social norms as not only valid and reasonable but right and good as fighting fire with fire. It is, of course -- but sometimes that's perfectly advisable, as when one stops the spread of a firestorm by burning away the flammable brush in a certain circumfrence around it. It's worth bearing in mind that the same liberals who decry bullying are perfectly content to bully in defense of their own social norms, at the expense of Christians and non-sexual deviants and so on; FIRE is dedicated to fighting these types of bullying in universities, where it has the potential to devastate a person's future to an extent routine beating-up-fags stuff doesn't . If there is, in fact, something like a war going on to determine whose social values ought to be ascendant, I see no reason why one side should be expected to unilaterally disarm.

Even for the sake of the children.

This is also backed up by Focus On The Family, who has pointed out that when you're gay-hunting, the most likely suspects are the creative, empathetic, and/or victims of bullying.

[Nobar King]

I don't know who this Jamey kid is but I'm pretty sure his parents doomed him from the start by giving him a girl's name. No wonder he killed himself.

Teen who recorded anti-bullying message commits suicide:

NEW YORK — A 14-year-old boy from New York who warned in Internet postings that he felt suicidal because of anti-homosexual bullying has been found dead outside his home.
Jamey Rodemeyer became the latest in a string of suicides by young Americans who had been abused or ridiculed - in several cases over the Internet - because of their sexuality.

Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/...#ixzz1Yi4JiCNL

[Trent Harvey, Jr.]

I'm bumping this for anyone who says that Donald Trump behaves like a bully, or encourages bully-like behavior.

[God Hates Everything]

Originally Posted by Trent Harvey, Jr.

I'm bumping this for anyone who says that Donald Trump behaves like a bully, or encourages bully-like behavior.

Mr. Trump is the second coming of our Lord, who rose in response to that hated antichrist who is President now. Those who say He bullies are absolutely right, and His Word says to imitate him in all we do. I believe that we must encourage bullying, purge the weak, and bring forth a glorious holy dominion on Earth.

[Mrs. Paddy McIrish]

Mr. McIrish has 6 offspring from his previous marriage (more about that here: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=95278) who are bullied at school.

I now understand why! Clearly the little heathens' unnatural conception is an affront to God, who has sent His righteous bullies to punish them for their secularly-created existence and possibly to discourage them from spawning more soulless demons!

[Alvin Moss]

Originally Posted by God Hates Everything

Mr. Trump is the second coming of our Lord, who rose in response to that hated antichrist who is President now. Those who say He bullies are absolutely right, and His Word says to imitate him in all we do. I believe that we must encourage bullying, purge the weak, and bring forth a glorious holy dominion on Earth.

This is false testimony. Proverbs 19:5 indicates your reward. Donald Trump is not Jesus and Jesus will certainly not return in the guise of a loud mouthed Yankee, unless He has developed some kind of really unusual sense of humor in the last two thousand years. But I don't expect that. His return is serious business and there is no fooling around involved.