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Default Beware of "The Underdog Wins" Stories - 11-02-2022, 05:25 PM

It seems like every year there is a new movie about the skinny kid whom everyone ignores but comes off the bench to win the big game. The same is true of politicians and business people who claim to come from humble beginnings and rise to fortune and fame. At Landover Baptist Church, we know this is not reality.

Reality happens when people of wealthy heritage are given advantages and use them to elbow out the not so fortunate. This is the way Jesus wants to world to run. Let's look at where this lesson comes from.

Jesus was raised by Joeseph. Joeseph was not some homeless failure, he was what we would call today contractor. This prosperity funded Jesus' career as a young preacher, saving thousands of souls. Without a head start in life Jesus would not have become a world figure. No one knows this better than Jesus Himself. That is why His favorite church today is the prosperous Landover Baptist.

Donald Trump is another example. Donld's father was a wealthy real estate investor. He passed along to Donald several million dollars and the skills necessary to buy and sell plus not pay back loans when it was helpful to his bottom line.

The skinny kid on the bench story actually was about a kid whose parents had money to send him to special athletic training camps. Regardless of how appealing those stories are about the underdog who wins, God favors those of us who have resources.

Are underdog stories realistic to my life? | Voice (christianpost.com)


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Default Re: Beware of "The Underdog Wins" Stories - 11-02-2022, 11:08 PM

Thoughtful message. And there in the piece was a valuable Scripture message
II Timothy 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
no better exemplified than in our own Pastor, especially the sound mind bit. And also the power but most of all, in love.
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Default Re: Beware of "The Underdog Wins" Stories - 11-03-2022, 04:53 PM

It's a disappointing piece, to be sure.

We often hearken back to simpler times when noble families exhibited moral leadership and ne'er do wells were drowned in the lake. Things like that make sense, whereas nowadays - including this pointless article - lines are blurred. In the story of David and Goliath, we root for David of course, the winner. Duh. In the fable of Baa Baa Black Sheep, we root for the rugged individual and a low-tax low-regulation economy. Because that's what creates job creators, who then create jobs for all the useless people.

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It's a disappointing piece, to be sure.
We often hearken back to simpler times when noble families exhibited moral leadership and ne'er do wells were drowned in the lake. Things like that make sense, whereas nowadays - including this pointless article - lines are blurred. In the story of David and Goliath, we root for David of course, the winner. Duh. In the fable of Baa Baa Black Sheep, we root for the rugged individual and a low-tax low-regulation economy. Because that's what creates job creators, who then create jobs for all the useless people.
Singer John Fogarty made a lot of money with the-skinny-kid-wins myth. He had a song called, Put Me In Coach. If a kid's father owns the team, or is on the School Board, that kid has made the team. The U.S. is a simple place where justice prevails.

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Default Re: Beware of "The Underdog Wins" Stories - 11-03-2022, 09:16 PM

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If a kid's father owns the team, or is on the School Board, that kid has made the team. The U.S. is a simple place where justice prevails.
Before there were teams and school boards there was drab cultural void. Everything was homogeneous mediocrity. Now we have a greatly enriched experience with Starbucks, Subway and Target superstores in every town, as far as the eye can see. When it's Halloween time, they wheel out the orange decorations and sell pumpkin spice flavored corn syrup snacks then when it's Thanksgiving they bring out turkey flavored corn syrup snacks, and then at Christmas - a special time - they dust off the sparkly decorations and candy corn shaped corn syrup snacks for us. Ho ho ho. After that there's pink colored decorations for Valentines, egg-shaped corn syrup snacks for Easter, which runs straight into Mother's Day and/or Father's Day probably, I forget, with more snacks and more decorations and then it's time to sugar up for something or other and then we celebrate July 4th with mountains of corn syrup straight out of the jar and smeared over turkey and baked into honey marshmallow triple-bypass bread, nom nom nom. I'm so glad they force feed culture into us otherwise the whole world would be a barren wasteland.


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Default Re: Beware of "The Underdog Wins" Stories - 01-27-2023, 02:16 AM

John Milton's Biblical fanfiction Paradise Lost is an underdog story. It's done a great deal to influence peoples' perception of Satan's character even though it's not from the Bible (Deuteronomy 4:2). How much of the Church of Satan's dogma was inspired by this so-called Puritan?


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Default Re: Beware of "The Underdog Wins" Stories - 01-27-2023, 04:35 AM

The Republican Party has some of those who like the underdog wins stories. During many election cycles lesser known politicians try to gain a following hoping the sweep out wealthy white men. This year is no exception.

We have this Mexican Governor in Florida talking about running. Other governors and Senators' names are brought up. Forget about these people. One white very wealthy man, not some younger, underfunded, enthusiastic underdog, will be the Republican nominee. That is Donald Trump.


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We have this Mexican Governor in Florida talking about running.
I hate to say this but if that greasy wop DeSantis were elected president, he'd be the second least ethnically pure president, only beating out Obama and not by much.


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I hate to say this but if that greasy wop DeSantis were elected president, he'd be the second least ethnically pure president, only beating out Obama and not by much.
Isn't Desantis the greaseball that was born in Cuba whose father shot JFK? Ugly ugly wife... and you know what that means (a small penis). Not Presidential. At least with Obama, you knew.


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Wasn't President Obama's mother Irish?
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The number of priests in Ireland has fallen precipitously since 1959, according to The Vanishing Catholic Priest, a study conducted by sociologist Brian Conway of National University of Ireland, Maynooth. Conway notes there were a few, brief upticks in the years following Pope John Paul II’s visit to the country in 1979 . . . last year* only five men began training for the priesthood at Ireland’s main seminary, St Patrick’s College in Maynooth. It does not bode well for the future of the profession – especially considering that the average age for an Irish priest is hovering around 70. But Irish leadership is not giving up hope of rekindling the ailing profession as Church leaders begin to actively recruit priests from abroad.
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Wasn't President Obama's mother Irish?
According to this unfortunate ditty, yes.





Why in the name of all that is holy would the Irish be so eager to claim Obama, I do not know. Don't they have enough failures stumbling around their own countryside?


Now, Reagan is someone worth claiming!


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Grammar Nazi Re: Beware of "The Underdog Wins" Stories - 02-06-2023, 07:03 PM

No decent man lets an underdog win.

They are underdogs for a reason, they are inferior. It is a dis-service to allow them to think they have any chance what so ever. A decent, caring person would obliterate them like an ant under my size 14 boot.

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Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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They are underdogs for a reason, they are inferior. It is a dis-service to allow them to think they have any chance what so ever. A decent, caring person would obliterate them like an ant under my size 14 boot.
Amen Brother. When I hear about all those workers wasting everyone's time protesting it makes me want to round them up and really give them something to complain about.


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Why in the name of all that is holy would the Irish be so eager to claim Obama, I do not know.
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How often is Job presented as an "underdog who wins" in the end? Smitten on God's authority, Job's misery began when his sons and daughters were having a party. His oxen were driven off by nasty cattle-rustling Sabeans who also chopped up the staff.

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Not so good for them. God had not forgotten about the other employees and His authority extended to those too. A large jet of fire came down——big enough to incinerate 7,000 sheep——and all the workers in that part of Job's ranch. Now that's what I call a jet of flames. Around about now the Chaldeans are feeling left out so turn up to steal (successfully) 3,000 camels. I'm not sure what custodians of camels are called but they were savagely chopped, no doubt trying to protect the camels. Then there was that party: what happened?

Whether it was a tornado, likely because its effects are local, or some other wind event is not mentioned but it collapsed the house and there were no survivors. One escaped but was probably not in the house at the time; I imagine someone going out for more supplies and 10 hosts & hostesses would require several stewards each to provide full glasses, freshly roasted haunches, music and other forms of entertainment. All crushed horribly, deaths which typically are not instant.
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Job did not protest. By human standards he'd now have underdog status but a higher value system was working here. Satan wanted to really get stuck into Job. God said, Carry on.
Job 2:7-9 So went Satan forth from the presence of the LORD, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown. And he took him a potsherd to scrape himself withal; and he sat down among the ashes. Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity? curse God, and die.
She sounds like a right nause. Job used to have friends so guess what? Yes, they turned up to go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on until THIRTY-SEVEN CHAPTERS LATER, commuting by tornado (specified this time) God arrives. Now at this juncture from Job's perspective there could be no lower status in existence anywhere and we have the definitive underdog.

But this is not some arbitrary condition brought on by exploitative employers, unwillingness to work, discrimination against individuals bravely soldiering on living with crack addiction or burdened with spending all their money on skanky ho bags leaving nothing to pay for the crack. Then they get arrested casing the joint with one of these
at which point the protests begin. Ineffective, as protests always are, change comes by changing things not marching up and down or complaining to all and sundry about concerns they do not share.



BEWARE OF "The Underdog Wins" STORIES

Job was quite extraordinarily different. He was not happy with his situation but doesn't fit the "underdog" profile we hear about in so-called "winner" stories. He started off well situated and finished up even better, double the livestock, more (but different) sons, new daughters and everything!

He called them Kerenhappuch, Kezia and Jemima.
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