[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by Poodleinacan

Does anyone here realise that this is human traffic?

This accountable for jail time.

This false accusation has been addressed in this thread already. Please familiarize yourself with the issue before commenting.

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Poodleinacan

Does anyone here realise that this is human traffic?

This accountable for jail time.

Really? Then why are dowries and/or bride prices LEGAL in almost every jurisdiction worldwide?

Oh, and thanks for reading the whole thread. This point has been covered dozens of times. But, hey, everybody else should bend over backwards on your account because WE'RE responsible for curing YOUR ignorance, right?

[Poodleinacan]

Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda

This false accusation has been addressed in this thread already. Please familiarize yourself with the issue before commenting.

It will never be said enough.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by Poodleinacan

It will never be said enough.

You're mistaken, dear, which makes your comment superfluous to the actual topic of this thread.

Please, do try and keep up.

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Poodleinacan

It will never be said enough.

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."

Do you know who said that? Joseph Goebbels. Look him up.

[Poodleinacan]

Originally Posted by Didymus Much

Really? Then why are dowries and/or bride prices LEGAL in almost every jurisdiction worldwide?

Oh, and thanks for reading the whole thread. This point has been covered dozens of times. But, hey, everybody else should bend over backwards on your account because WE'RE responsible for curing YOUR ignorance, right?

The legal part is when the person is willingly puttig his/her own self to be a mail-order-bride/husband. In other words, when the person is an adult.

When it is kid that is beig put for sell, by his parents, unwilligly (which means that the kid is forced and is left with out any choice), then it is human trafficking.

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Poodleinacan

I refuse to take MY time to read the thread and see that these points have already been covered ad nauseum and INSIST that I'm so special and I need to be spoonfed everything because I'm more important than anyone else.

FTFY.

[Basilissa]

Originally Posted by Poodleinacan

When it is kid that is beig put for sell, by his parents, unwilligly (which means that the kid is forced and is left with out any choice), then it is human trafficking.

Tell that to the many cultures of contemporary world that today practice arranged marriages, including the following countries:

India
Nepal
Sri Lanca
Pakistan
Bangladesh
China

You can read more about arranged marriages on this website:
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/...anged_marriage

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Basilissa

Tell that to the many cultures of contemporary world that today practice arranged marriages, including the following countries:

India
Nepal
Sri Lanca
Pakistan
Bangladesh
China...

And all the countries that people from those cultures have emigrated to, because the police can't investigate crimes that no one reports (and most people don't turn themselves in to the cops).

[Thomas Taylor]

Originally Posted by Basilissa

Tell that to the many cultures of contemporary world that today practice arranged marriages, including the following countries:

India
Nepal
Sri Lanca
Pakistan
Bangladesh
China

You can read more about arranged marriages on this website:
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/...anged_marriage

You can add the Islamic Republic of Birmingham to that list.

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by Poodleinacan

Does anyone here realise that this is human traffic? This accountable for jail time.

Please pay attention. We are talking about daughters here, not humans.

[MilitantImbecile]

Originally Posted by Poodleinacan

The legal part is when the person is willingly puttig his/her own self to be a mail-order-bride/husband. In other words, when the person is an adult.

When it is kid that is beig put for sell, by his parents, unwilligly (which means that the kid is forced and is left with out any choice), then it is human trafficking.

Well if she disagrees, when the Pastor asks her to say "I do" she just has to say "no", end of ceremony. Oh and she can refuse to sign the marriage license application.

Originally Posted by Cranky Old Man

Please pay attention. We are talking about daughters here, not humans.

Where in the Bible does it say that daughters are not human?

[Rev. Edward Clement]

Originally Posted by MilitantModerate

Where in the Bible does it say that daughters are not human?

The Bible is very clear on this matter, friend, because the Lord does not consider them worthy of being counted.

Numbers
1:2 Take ye the sum of all the congregation of the children of Israel, after their families, by the house of their fathers, with the number of their names, every male by their polls;

The Lord specifically refuses to mention women here.

This should be very clear to you now, such as clearness is considered clear by those with the clearness to understand what the Lord explicitly says, clearly.

[MilitantImbecile]

Originally Posted by Rev. Edward Clement

The Bible is very clear on this matter, friend, because the Lord does not consider them worthy of being counted.

Numbers
1:2 Take ye the sum of all the congregation of the children of Israel, after their families, by the house of their fathers, with the number of their names, every male by their polls;

The Lord specifically refuses to mention women here.

This should be very clear to you now, such as clearness is considered clear by those with the clearness to understand what the Lord explicitly says, clearly.

Didn't include male children under the age of of 20 either, but that doesn't stop you from considering foetuses as human.

Numbers 1:3 From twenty years old and upward, all that are able to go forth to war in Israel: thou and Aaron shall number them by their armies.

No taking things out of context, remember?

Oh and according to Leviticus, women may be worth less than a man, but they're not worth as little as a male child.

Leviticus 27

3 And thy estimation shall be of the male from twenty years old even unto sixty years old, even thy estimation shall be fifty shekels of silver, after the shekel of the sanctuary.

4 And if it be a female, then thy estimation shall be thirty shekels.

5 And if it be from five years old even unto twenty years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male twenty shekels, and for the female ten shekels.

6 And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver.

7 And if it be from sixty years old and above; if it be a male, then thy estimation shall be fifteen shekels, and for the female ten shekels.

Well, it seems that a woman of child bearing years is worth twice what an old man is worth.

Before anyone gives me another infraction, check your Bibles. If you disagree with me, you're disagreeing with your own God.

[MilitantImbecile]

Oh, I'm sorry, is it males under the age of 20 that aren't worth counting? or is it the males under a month of age

Numbers 3:15 Number the children of Levi after the house of their fathers, by their families: every male from a month old and upward shalt thou number them.

Or are Levi's children worth less than anyone elses?

[Rev. Edward Clement]

Originally Posted by MilitantModerate

Didn't include male children under the age of of 20 either, but that doesn't stop you from considering foetuses as human.

Numbers 1:3 From twenty years old and upward, all that are able to go forth to war in Israel: thou and Aaron shall number them by their armies.

No taking things out of context, remember? Incorrect use of scripture deleted...

Speaking of context, remember, the Head of the Household OWNS everyone in his household. So, you still cannot see what is clear, friend. However, because males are mentioned, and females are not mentioned, women are not human, as Brother Cranky noted.

Only animals seek to sleep with other animals(atheists, agnostics, false-Christians are in that same category), unless their husbands tighten the reigns.

Leviticus
20:16 And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

We are always right:

Isaiah 29:14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

John 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
John 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.

John 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
John 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

1st Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1st Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1st Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1st Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1st Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1st Corinthians 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1st Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
1st Corinthians 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
1st Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1st Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1st Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1st Corinthians 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1st Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1st Corinthians 3:20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

Jude 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Jude 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
Jude 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

Truly, your persecution not only confirms our Rightness, but provides evidence that Jesus is soon to Return.

[Rev. Edward Clement]

Originally Posted by MilitantModerate

Oh, I'm sorry, is it males under the age of 20 that aren't worth counting? or is it the males under a month of age

Numbers 3:15 Number the children of Levi after the house of their fathers, by their families: every male from a month old and upward shalt thou number them.

Or are Levi's children worth less than anyone elses?

Stop straying off topic, friend.

Now specifically, it is also not only well know that daughters are not human because they are the result of the fact that there was no bestial helpmeet for Adam, which he discovered while he was naming cattle.

Genesis
2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

I guess you missed this in your poor attempt at Bible reading, but that is to be expected because you are blind, friend.

[T.Y.L.E.R-TheCreator]

You are ***potty word *** sick. Your daughter isn't an item shes a person. Your a ***potty word *** criminal and you poison any holy water you touch. ***potty word *** Disgrace.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Originally Posted by T.Y.L.E.R-TheCreator

You are ***potty word *** sick. Your daughter isn't an item shes a person. Your a ***potty word *** criminal and you poison any holy water you touch. ***potty word *** Disgrace.

Please watch the language.

And "holy water" ??? We're aren't filthy catlicks, friend!

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Rev. Edward Clement]

Originally Posted by T.Y.L.E.R-TheCreator

a (--------)and you poison any holy water you touch. (---------).

Such language, obviously a man of very few words.

Friend, we are not catlickers here, we are Baptists. I suppose you had trouble reading the Name of our Church, which is Landover Baptist Church.

Deuteronomy

28:27 The LORD will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emerods, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed.
28:28 The LORD shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart:

I suppose that you have a fiery case of hemorrhoids as well.