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Default Re: Creationism - 01-12-2013, 10:09 AM

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Anna, I think you should drop the matter. Don't try to explain to these people in what we believe, they will not hear. Don't try to convince them that their ways are wrong either. They are happy about who they are, even if we are taught differently. Respect that they have every right to say what they want. Keep the peace honey
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Default Re: Creationism - 01-12-2013, 10:24 AM

Anna, I can't speak for anybody else here, but the only thing I care about is your aeternal soul. I really want you to have a relationship with Jesus Christ, and I know that's what He wants.

Won't you please consider accepting Him as your personal savior?


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Default Re: Creationism - 01-12-2013, 10:36 AM

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I was abaut give up anyway
Thanks and Blessed be
What is it you want to acheive, here? Why do you want to tempt people away from God?

The Bible specifically says we should not associate with your kind or we will go to Hell with all the dogs and wizards.

Do you get some kick out wanting good, decent, kind, loving, innocent True Christians™ who only want to quietly and with humility trumpet the word of God to everyone to go to Hell?

What kind of monster are you? I will pray for you.

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1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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Default Re: Creationism - 01-12-2013, 10:53 AM

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Anna, I can't speak for anybody else here, but the only thing I care about is your aeternal soul. I really want you to have a relationship with Jesus Christ, and I know that's what He wants.

Won't you please consider accepting Him as your personal savior?
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What is it you want to acheive, here? Why do you want to tempt people away from God?

The Bible specifically says we should not associate with your kind or we will go to Hell with all the dogs and wizards.

Do you get some kick out wanting good, decent, kind, loving, innocent True Christians™ who only want to quietly and with humility trumpet the word of God to everyone to go to Hell?

What kind of monster are you? I will pray for you.

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what I believe
We already know what you believe. It would be interesting to learn however,
what is your definition of spiritual?
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I try to explain to you in what I believe
But don't you understand that just because YOU beleive something does not make it true?

It's like banging my head against a wall, talking to someone without an open mind and fixed beliefs.



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Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

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But don't you understand that just because YOU beleive something does not make it true?

It's like banging my head against a wall, talking to someone without an open mind and fixed beliefs.



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Yes,I understand that perfectly
Do you know this applies to you to?


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Yes,I understand that perfectly
Do you know this applies to you to?
Okay, so you understand that just believing in something doesn't make it true. How then do you determine whether something is true? Or how should you determine whether something is true? Relying on your feelings -- whether something feels good -- isn't an accurate method, because that doesn't make something true either.

You kept mentioning earlier that alternative science supports wicca. When I looked up alternative science on Wikipedia, I found a disambiguation page that led me to pseudoscience.

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Pseudoscience is a claim, belief, or practice which is presented as scientific, but does not adhere to a valid scientific method, lacks supporting evidence or plausibility, cannot be reliably tested, or otherwise lacks scientific status. Pseudoscience is often characterized by the use of vague, contradictory, exaggerated or unprovable claims, an over-reliance on confirmation rather than rigorous attempts at refutation, a lack of openness to evaluation by other experts, and a general absence of systematic processes to rationally develop theories.
You shouldn't use alternative science, or pseudoscience, to support wicca.


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Default Re: Creationism - 01-12-2013, 04:57 PM

The only thing I've got out of this thread is that wiccans are sneaky by first trying to rubbish other people's beliefs as ridiculous and irrational before going for a sucker punch and preaching their own brand of ridiculous patently made up tosh.

You can't seem to get any two of them to agree on what it is they believe because they all just basically make it up in their own heads then sort of glue it back on to some vague mutual framework. They then just sort of politely ignore the bits where they believe in two mutually exclusive things at the same time while claiming to believe in the same religion.

They are vicious and intolerant and seem to think that everyone should believe what they believe and they also seem to find it impossible to take a polite, "No!" for an answer when ramming their message down other people's throats.

Compare this to the simple, unstained (conditional) love of Jesus who died (temporarily) for their sins, without being asked to and whether they wanted Him to or not. Yet they can't see how Jesus is right and they are wrong.



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John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

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Default Re: Creationism - 01-12-2013, 08:48 PM

I am going to admit to a subterfuge. In asking for a definition of "spiritual" and knowing that no definition would be forthcoming I was able to confirm my suspicion that OP was not attempting direct proselytisation but wanting us to read the links.

Semiotics as a subject concerns signs. Applied to language, words become signifiers. What does "spiritual" signify to {Anna}?

Well we have our answer. Why does she want us to read the links?

To answer that we'd need to look at the content of the links but my purpose is not to intrude opinions or instruction of any kind and of course I didn't click the links.

Why bother? Full maniac MacGregor-Mathers probably originated more nonsense before breakfast than all the wolfbaneravens and hemlockbutterflies could produce in a lifetime. Take a look at this disaster area:

would you

believe
a
single
word
he
said
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Christians do not "think" things. Perhaps I might think about a recipe or something but in that context the verb signifies something different.

I do not "think" the sky is blue, for example. The sky IS blue.
The word "blue" signifies the hue of the sky.
Now say if MacGregor-Mathers wants to call the sky-hue "tartan" — what word will he use to signify Tartan?
If he wants to call this "blue" and square "round" he is speaking a different language and no-one will understand him.

Even if they'd listen to a man walking around with 3 stars on his head in the first place. Which they wouldn't. Neither is any Christian audience interested in the undefined secret language of witchcraft.

Life is not a trial run. What happens here is determined by the Creator. Christians do not "think that" witchraft is satanic

GOD STATES IT TO BE SO

Neither do we have opinions concerning the efficacy of blood for remitting the filthy rag of sin, even the ordure of "righteousness" as interpreted by fools upon their broad and reeking path to everlasting ruin.

FROM THE NEW TESTAMENT
Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

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FROM THE HISTORICAL RECORD
Isaiah 64:6-8 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. And there is none that calleth upon thy name, that stirreth up himself to take hold of thee: for thou hast hid thy face from us, and hast consumed us, because of our iniquities. But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.
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We do not "think that" almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

GOD SAYS SO

We do not "think that" foul sinners at the turn of the 34th century were all as an unclean thing, and all their righteousnesses as filthy rags

GOD SAYS SO

Jesus explains:
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Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
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