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Default Getting kids to eat fruit - 09-16-2010, 11:30 AM

OK. I know I am a new Mummy here having only had sole care of Disciple Luke's boys for the past couple of weeks.

In bible study yesterday we did Genesis. I think young John really enjoyed colouring in the fig leaf pics of Adam and Eve.

But since then he seems to have this fear of snakes. That is silly as in Australia it is something that we see all the time. And especially after we move up to be with their Daddy after the wedding .... there are heaps of snakes in the Kimberley region. Though I suppose a fear might be healthy.

But also, since the Genesis story he is refusing to eat apples saying that he will go to hell if he does.

Stone fruit like apricots, plums, peaches and nectarines are out of season at present and apples are relatively reasonably priced. How can I get the kids to eat apples without them thinking they will go to hell?


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OK. I know I am a new Mummy here having only had sole care of Disciple Luke's boys for the past couple of weeks.

In bible study yesterday we did Genesis. I think young John really enjoyed colouring in the fig leaf pics of Adam and Eve.

But since then he seems to have this fear of snakes. That is silly as in Australia it is something that we see all the time. And especially after we move up to be with their Daddy after the wedding .... there are heaps of snakes in the Kimberley region. Though I suppose a fear might be healthy.

But also, since the Genesis story he is refusing to eat apples saying that he will go to hell if he does.

Stone fruit like apricots, plums, peaches and nectarines are out of season at present and apples are relatively reasonably priced. How can I get the kids to eat apples without them thinking they will go to hell?
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Default Re: Getting kids to eat fruit - 09-16-2010, 11:43 AM

Maybe if you tell John that God has already punsihed the snakes because He took away thier legs and made travel on their belly

Genesis 3
14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:


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Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
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Maybe if you tell John that God has already punished the snakes because He took away their legs and made travel on their belly

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Oh Thank You Sister Lisa.

What a great idea. I will discuss that with him tomorrow. It must be hard for the snakes manoeuvring on their tummies.

That is a nice looking recipe MrPastaBoy but fresh fruit is so much more nutritious for children than cooked. I think he is a bit young to be tasting too much pie.


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Maybe if you tell John that God has already punsihed the snakes because He took away thier legs and made travel on their belly

Genesis 3
14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
Any mention of snakes having legs before the "crime"? or did "god" pre-punish the snake for the crime it was yet to commit?


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Oh Thank You Sister Lisa.

What a great idea. I will discuss that with him tomorrow. It must be hard for the snakes manoeuvring on their tummies.

That is a nice looking recipe MrPastaBoy but fresh fruit is so much more nutritious for children than cooked. I think he is a bit young to be tasting too much pie.
And you have not covered Mark 11:12-13 with him yet?


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Any mention of snakes having legs before the "crime"? or did "god" pre-punish the snake for the crime it was yet to commit?
If you read the bible you would realise that Genesis talks initially about serpents.

To go from the above with limbs and wings to a belly dragging "snake" is a HUGE let down.

Do you not agree?


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And you have not covered Mark 11:12-13 with him yet?
John is FOUR. Fig leaves are easy to explain at this age.

We will discuss the fruit of the Lord when he is old enough to comprehend.


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Any mention of snakes having legs before the "crime"? or did "god" pre-punish the snake for the crime it was yet to commit?
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If you read the bible you would realise that Genesis talks initially about serpents.

To go from the above with limbs and wings to a belly dragging "snake" is a HUGE let down.

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Was the creature in the garden a winged Serpent? where does it say that?


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Any mention of snakes having legs before the "crime"? or did "god" pre-punish the snake for the crime it was yet to commit?
Did you read the Bible verse I wrote. What does it say.

I see you are more concerned with young Johns welfare than your noodle idol.


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Serpent: A reptile of the order Serpentes; a snake.

Was the creature in the garden a winged Serpent? where does it say that?
I don't know that the serpent was winged. BUT I do know that it had limbs.

Hence why it's punishment was to crawl on it's belly. If it was already a belly crawler then there was no punishment. BUT because we know God punished the serpent then we KNOW it had to have some kind of loss - that being it's limbs.


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Default Re: Getting kids to eat fruit - 09-16-2010, 12:12 PM

Are you questioning a FOUR year old?
Here is John's colouring in pic.
As you can see Eve has already offered Adam the apple.
The "serpent" is legless.



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Default Re: Getting kids to eat fruit - 09-16-2010, 12:13 PM

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I don't know that the serpent was winged. BUT I do know that it had limbs.

Hence why it's punishment was to crawl on it's belly. If it was already a belly crawler then there was no punishment. BUT because we know God punished the serpent then we KNOW it had to have some kind of loss - that being it's limbs.
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14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
That does not say the snake did not already go upon its belly. "god" was just been letting the snake know that its mode of movement was not going to get any better.

Oh Chaz how many of the snakes in Australia have a diet of dust?


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Are you questioning a FOUR year old?
Here is John's colouring in pic.
As you can see Eve has already offered Adam the apple.
The "serpent" is legless.

Sister Charli! I am glad John is very young and may not have noticed, Eve is missing two fig leaves.


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I don't know that the serpent was winged. BUT I do know that it had limbs.
How do you KNOW it had limbs?
Just where does it say it had limbs?
Or are you interpreting Genesis 3:14 as implying that the snake had limbs?


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Sister Charli! I am glad John is very young and may not have noticed, Eve is missing two fig leaves.
Again with the assumptions Lisa, they could be small fig leaves, we can not see.


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Sister Charli! I am glad John is very young and may not have noticed, Eve is missing two fig leaves.
Yes.

Praise Jesus. John is only four!


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How do you KNOW it had limbs?
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Mr Freddie.

I don't know how many times I have said it, but I can assure you that YOU will never get me in to debate over the word of God.

God tells us that he punished the serpent so that it would crawl on it's belly. That is enough for me to accept that prior to that the serpent was not a belly crawler.

Just as God cursed women with monthly menstruation and painful childbirth after she coerced Adam to sin, I will believe that prior to that God meant women to have a pain free birth and no "unclean" time. You can read into the scriptures whatever YOU want to read into them. But because God tells me the scripture as I read it in my prayer closet I will accept it just as He wrote it.

As I have said to you on many an occasion ... lets agree to disagree. Right now, all I want is the best for Luke's boys. And that means eating fruit and vegies.

I appreciate your recipes to disquise fruit but I will not accept your interpretation of God's written word.


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