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Default Re: Unsaved trash spews garbage - 02-22-2007, 02:24 AM

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Why would God listen to the prayers of a sinner?
Then why should sinners pray to God for forgiveness if He isn't going to listen? Why should sinners pray to God and Jesus to take control of their lives and invite Them into their hearts if They aren't going to listen?


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Default Re: Unsaved trash spews garbage - 02-22-2007, 03:32 AM

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Then why should sinners pray to God for forgiveness if He isn't going to listen? Why should sinners pray to God and Jesus to take control of their lives and invite Them into their hearts if They aren't going to listen?
Once they ask forgiveness and promise to follow Jesus, God starts to listen! Isn't it glorious?

For the unSaved, it's more like this: Imagine, if you will, that you take your nephew to the grocery store. A stranger's child walks up to you and demands that you buy her candy.

You don't know who that child is, so you shoo her away and tell her to find her own mother to buy candy for her.

That's much how I expect God responds to a follower of some failed false god, like Ra, when the Ra-follower says, "God, GIMME GIMME GIMME, I WANT I WANT I WANT." God says, "You're not My kid. You rejected Me. Go ask your failed false sun-god for something other than melanoma."
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Default Re: Unsaved trash spews garbage - 02-22-2007, 01:45 PM

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LOL!!! A GOOD message??? If you believe that, my friend, you're mistaken. Again I quote:

Matthew 10:34-35:
34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

I do not believe in any message from the bible because I am pagan... the traditional kind of pagan that DOESN'T believe in the bible which came AFTER.
I do not believe the god, or jesus of the bible existed. I do not believe in the bible AT ALL.
The bible, jesus, xtianity...are all part of the same thing which is nothing to do with what I believe....thank the gods for that.
Being a wretched pagan woman, it is understandable that you find certain things hard to understand. However, you should know that there is much factual evidence to support the existence and relevance of the Bible, to prove the existence of Jesus of Nazareth (Our Lord and Savior), and to support the resurrection. Not that any True Christian would need evidence. As Passage Hebrews 11:1 says: "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." If you are to understand Christ you must learn to live by faith and accept what you cannot see (yet) without a doubt. Praise Jesus that you are still here in God's favorite forums. Apparently God is giving you one last chance before he knocks you and your sorry pagan friends into hell. Such mercy! Praise Jesus! I'd take that offer before God runs out of patience with your little games.

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Being a wretched pagan woman, it is understandable that you find certain things hard to understand.
You listen here, boy, that "wretched Pagan woman" knows more about life in this world, and the one after, than you do and I think you owe her some respect and an apology. I get that you're a TC and she's a "heathen" and all the other nonsense that you all use to disrespect people, but that doesn't change the fact that she is your elder and your better and no one should ever speak rudely to a lady. Did your parents neglect to teach you manners, sonny? This first time I'm going to chalk your behaviour up to hormonal imbalance due to puberty (don't worry, kid, some people are just "late bloomers"), but once your voice changes and your testicles actually drop down and make an appearance, you won't have any excuses; you'll just have to act like a real man (meaning you'll have to display some honour and integrity as well as civility and respect). Don't make me beat you with my Mighty Stick of Justice, little boy; I won't enjoy it (who'm I kidding? I'd frigging love it! ), but I'll do it if you force my hand!





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Don't make me beat you with my Mighty Stick of Justice, little boy; I won't enjoy it (who'm I kidding? I'd frigging love it! ), but I'll do it if you force my hand!
Alie,

This is a Christian discussion forum and not some place for you to pick up "bottoms" for what ever messed up Cannuk "Femdom scene" you are into. While I know they encourage such behavior up your way frankly Alie is is not proper for a young lady like you to strut about in thigh high latex boots and boss around men like you do. Jesus did not give your body just so you could amuse yourself by seeing how foolishly men behave when you flaunt it.



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*Whines* Awwww, but it's so much fun!


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*Whines* Awwww, but it's so much fun!

Did Jesus have fun on the cross when He died for your sins Alie? The lest you can do for Him is not follow the example of savage, anti-Christian male hating femnazis like Rachael and Lilith. Do not listen to them; you do not earn a place in Heaven Alie by castrating so many guys with your bare teeth.



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Did Jesus have fun on the cross when He died for your sins Alie? No, but I didn't ask Him to do that, did I? Nosiree, that was His choice - He dug that hole all on His own. The least you can do for Him is not follow the example of savage, anti-Christian male-hating femnazis like Rachael and Lilith. I have a lot more in common with them, though. Do not listen to them; you do not earn a place in Heaven Alie by castrating so many guys with your bare teeth.
Firstly, I'm going to reincarnate, not go to heaven. Secondly, I don't use my teeth, I've got special equipment for castrations. Would you like to see?


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Default Re: Unsaved trash spews garbage - 02-22-2007, 09:44 PM

Solvi, you foolish heathen, do you really believe that your little tantrums will save you from God Allmighty?

You may hate Him all you want, but that won't save you from hell..
You see.. He KNEW you would hate Him even before you did.
He made everything, even you, and He knows your every thought.

The LORD hath made all things for himself:
Yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.
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the morality and reason and justice I developed on my own, that was partially with me at birth, and partially developed from my own experiences.


As for this talk of "morality" and sense of "justice", you are wrong.
God is God, He cannot be wrong. You are mortal, a mere woman, you can easily be wrong, AND YOU ARE.
No human could be right against God; if you had even the smallest bit of sense you would KNOW that.

Once again, God knew you would start going astray as early as birth. He has predicted it in His holy word!
Yet more proof of His awesome power and your own lack of it:

The wicked are estranged from the womb:
They go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
Psalm 58:3


If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
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Being a wretched pagan woman, *snip* hateful BS *snip*
To add onto what Alie said, did you even read what I typed, and the context in which it was typed?

1) I wasn't addressing you, nor asking your opinion.
2) If you're going to add your two cents, please get the context of the conversation right.
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Default Re: Unsaved trash spews garbage - 02-23-2007, 02:31 AM

I don't know why the witches are attacking the poor lad for stating an obvious truth. Vanburger Hell-per IS a wretched pagan woman. Should we chastise him for saying the sky is blue or Jesus is Lord? Of course not!


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Maybe because he's a 16 year old boy who is close to a decade my junior acting like a disrespectful brat.
Plus completely missing the point of my post, not to mention clearly not understanding it. If he'd had anything intelligent to add, he wouldn't have earned the negative response.



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Default Re: Unsaved trash spews garbage - 02-23-2007, 03:16 AM

He may just be young in Christ, but he's learning and trying his best. As he goes along, his rebuking will become more refined, but he still needs to learn to properly rebuke and if you heathens are going to come to a True Christian forum, then by default you are offering yourselves up as sinners for him to practice on. The last thing the boy needs is for a couple of witches to rebuke him when they should be counting themselves lucky to not be two smoldering piles of ash blowing away in the wind!


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Default Re: Unsaved trash spews garbage - 02-23-2007, 03:32 AM

Well, maybe he might make a start by identifying the context of the post. His reply was, in regards to what I said, utterly irrelevant. And, I am a little on the tense side these days.

Ok, I'll rephrase.

'Dear young lobotomy candidate landover aspirant,
Your reply, while wordsome, clearly has no relation to the context of the post to which you replied, and seem to have misunderstood.
Please feel free to peruse the thread some more so that you may make a more properly informed rebuke.
Last of all, you're an arrogant xtian brat have a lovely day

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Default Re: Unsaved trash spews garbage - 02-24-2007, 01:19 AM

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Well, maybe he might make a start by identifying the context of the post. His reply was, in regards to what I said, utterly irrelevant. And, I am a little on the tense side these days.

Ok, I'll rephrase.

'Dear young lobotomy candidate landover aspirant,
Your reply, while wordsome, clearly has no relation to the context of the post to which you replied, and seem to have misunderstood.
Please feel free to peruse the thread some more so that you may make a more properly informed rebuke.
Last of all, you're an arrogant xtian brat have a lovely day

Sincerely,
Mrs Hellbound Heathen.
It's an improvement, but could still use a further rewrite. How about:
"Dear young Christian gentleman,
As a woman, and an unsaved one at that, I have no business at all interfering in debates of this kind. Consquently, I am taking a vow of silence. Nevermore shall I darken these Godly forums with my unclean presence!"

Or better still, just:


O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.


God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
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Default Re: Unsaved trash spews garbage - 02-27-2007, 10:28 PM

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LOL!!! A GOOD message??? If you believe that, my friend, you're mistaken. Again I quote:

Matthew 10:34-35:
34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

I do not believe in any message from the bible because I am pagan... the traditional kind of pagan that DOESN'T believe in the bible which came AFTER.
I do not believe the god, or jesus of the bible existed. I do not believe in the bible AT ALL.
The bible, jesus, xtianity...are all part of the same thing which is nothing to do with what I believe....thank the gods for that.
I think Jesus knew His comming would start wars and stuff: it would have been better if peace had continued, but He knew that humans would fight over who is right and wrong for millenia to come.

You're clearly no better than these fundamentalists: condemning a religion based entirely on one group's beliefs.
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Default Re: Unsaved trash spews garbage - 02-27-2007, 10:35 PM

No, dear, I'm not condemning anyone. Merely pointing out what that book actually says, rather than what you wish it says.

As a Pagan, I'm not going to pick on anyone wanting to believe in a higher power. It is the following of that cruel, inhumane, monstrous book, while at the same time saying that it is GOOD...which I have a problem with.

And don't ever call me intolerant, little man. You have no idea what I've been through, know nothing about me, or my life.
Not to mention that your judging of me right there whilst accusing me of thus is ironic and hypocritical to say the least.



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Default Re: Unsaved trash spews garbage - 02-27-2007, 10:57 PM

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Actually, we go with God as He has described Himself in His Word. Perhaps you should read it, instead of praying to the failed false gods of collapsed theocracies. (OOPS! Yes, those were theocracies, and you're now a booster for their failed false gods.)
Every empire dies eventually, in most empires it was not the fault of worshipping false gods that they fell. You know, within a few hundred years of accepting Christianity, the Roman empire split apart. But I'm not saying it was the fault of the new religion, just that the religion of an empire does not matter. It matters, however, if the people rebel, and they WILL rebel against the cruelty that will dominate your theocracy.

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Could you back that up with a scientific reference? 53% of Americans believe in Biblical 6-Day Creationism. How many of those do you think believe that "In God We Trust" needs to remain on the dollar bill? Look it up.
So now you're talking about science, when you clearly don't believe in it (apparently, science means satanism in Latin. Idiots.). And those percentages were just projections by me, they meant nothing, by what I said: "I'd bet that..."

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Our "brand", as you call it, is following exactly what the Bible says, instead of ignoring parts or making stuff up to suit our fancy. That's what True Christianity is. All others are lying to themselves and their congregations, and remaking God in their own image.
That is where your beliefs fail you, for the scriptures (all scriptures, not just the Bible) were written by mortal hands, divinely inspired, maybe, but mortal hands nonetheless, and mortals as we all know are fallable.

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I see. So if we do something you perceive as wrong, then it's OK for you to do something similar, which you also perceive as wrong? Interesting ethics you have there, Pagan.
...well, fight fire with fire...

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We have repeatedly told you that we only state the Truth as God has written in His Word. We don't necessarily like all of it, but that doesn't give us the right to ignore the bits we don't care for. We may state that God commands us to commit genocide, but that doesn't mean we think it's a neat idea. You, on the other hand, advocate murdering anyone who doesn't think like you do. See the difference?
So you don't advocate genocide while your god does. Am I the only one confused here? (and I probably am). You god doesn't even fit with your own morality! I've said it before here, why would God make a race of humans and instill a revulsion to things like genocide in them, and then command them to commit genocide?

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By the way, if God is false, and therefore does not exist (like your Egyptian sun-god Ra, who we all know has BILLIONS -- I mean, DOZENS -- of adherents) how exactly will you fight Him?
I never said Yahweh doesn't exist. He may have been a puppet of Satan, or something else entirely, but any being that is not a god can be killed.

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Loosely translated, "I thought I could easily convince you people to apostate your faith with a few clever arguments, but since I've failed, I shall leave with my tail between my legs. You see, I really don't have the strength of spiritual conviction I thought I had."
I never thought I could convert even one of you while you are in a group in your own forum. I needed to test myself, rather. And clearly I passed, for your arguments have failed to convince me.
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And don't ever call me intolerant, little man. You have no idea what I've been through, know nothing about me, or my life.
Not to mention that your judging of me right there whilst accusing me of thus is ironic and hypocritical to say the least.
Okay, okay, sheesh. Touched a nerve there, I see.

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No, dear, I'm not condemning anyone. Merely pointing out what that book actually says, rather than what you wish it says.

As a Pagan, I'm not going to pick on anyone wanting to believe in a higher power. It is the following of that cruel, inhumane, monstrous book, while at the same time saying that it is GOOD...which I have a problem with.
Well I have a problem with it too! It's just that Jesus' message is a lot more... digestible... to sane people than that of the Old Testament. For example, Jesus said: "Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy." Yahweh in the Old Testament commanded to mercy against a conquered people. Anyone see a condtradiction here? And that is why I believe Jesus to be an acceptable role model.
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As a Pagan, I'm not going to pick on anyone wanting to believe in a higher power. It is the following of that cruel, inhumane, monstrous book, while at the same time saying that it is GOOD...which I have a problem with.
Look you heathen harlot; all GOOD comes from GOD. You are without GOD so how can you know what is GOOD? You have no frame of referance to judge virtue.


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I think Jesus knew His comming would start wars and stuff: it would have been better if peace had continued, but He knew that humans would fight over who is right and wrong for millenia to come.
Shol'va, don't be such a nitwit; the Jews were fighting evil of paganism for a milieu before Jesus came to earth. What do you think the Romans were up to? Spreading sweetness and light with their swords? The only reason there was any peace in Judah at the time was the Romans would kill anybody who disturbed it and that my friend was the problem. The Jews were compromising The Lord’s will, nay twisting and spitting on it, to accommodate the Romans and the Greeks by living in peace with them. What Jesus was telling them the only way back to righteousness was to stop the appeasement, arm themselves, trust in The Lord to led them to victory over a military power ten times their size that had destroyed every other state worth mentioning at the time and had already defeated Judah once.

So what happened Sho’va? I tell you; in 80AD the Jews headed God and revolted. They did all right at first but they broke God’s law by fighting on the Sabbath. At that point God had enough of the Jews and abandoned them. The Romans overran Judah, stormed Jerusalem, burnt the Temple and enslaved the Jews. So that is what happens when you take pick and chose what you want from God and tell Him to sod off when it comes to something you don’t like; God lets your enemies destroy you.

Listen to the warning Shol’va and obey all of God’s message before He is feed up with you too!



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