[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

C. H. Spurgeon on Baptist Perpetuity

"We believe that the Baptists are the original Christians. We did not commence our existence at the reformation, we were reformers before Luther or Calvin were born; we never came from the Church of Rome, for we were never in it, but we have an unbroken line up to the apostles themselves. We have always existed from the very days of Christ, and our principles, sometimes veiled and forgotten, like a river which may travel underground for a little season, have always had honest and holy adherents. Persecuted alike by Romanists and Protestants of almost every sect, yet there has never existed a Government holding Baptist principles which persecuted others; nor I believe any body of Baptists ever held it to be right to put the consciences of others under the control of man. We have ever been ready to suffer, as our martyrologies will prove, but we are not ready to accept any help from the State, to prostitute the purity of the Bride of Christ to any alliance with the government, and we will never make the Church, although the Queen, the despot over the consciences of men". (From The New Park Street Pulpit, Vol.VII, Page 225).

"History has hitherto been written by our enemies, who never would have kept a single fact about us upon the record if they could have helped it, and yet it leaks out every now and then that certain poor people called Anabaptists were brought up for condemnation. From the days of Henry II to those of Elizabeth we hear of certain unhappy heretics who were hated of all men for the truth's sake which was in them. We read of poor men and women, with their garments cut short, turned out into the fields to perish in the cold, and anon of others who were burnt at Newington for the crime of Anabaptism. Long before your Protestants were known of, these horrible Anabaptists, as they were unjustly called, were protesting for the 'one Lord, one faith, and one baptism.' No sooner did the visible church begin to depart from the gospel than these men arose to keep fast by the good old way. The priests and monks wished for peace and slumber, but there was always a Baptist or a Lollard tickling men's ears with holy Scriptures, and calling their attention to the errors of the times. They were a poor persecuted tribe. The halter was thought to be too good for them. At times ill-written history would have us think that they died out, so well had the wolf done his work on the sheep. Yet here we are, blessed and multiplied; and Newington sees other scenes from Sabbath to Sabbath.

As I think of your numbers and efforts, I can only say in wonder - what a growth! As I think of the multitudes of our brethren in America, I may well say, What hath God wrought! Our history forbids discouragement." (From the Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit, 1881, Vol. 27, page 249.)

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

BAPTISTS ARE NOT PROTESTANTS!

Baptists - that is true Baptists whose lineage comes from Christ - not the Protestants - are NOT Protestants. Baptists did not come out of the Reformation Movement. Baptists came through the Reformation period. Those denominations who trace their roots to the Reformation are considered Protestant because they were a part of the "Protest" movement against the Roman Catholic institution as members. The Baptist churches were never out of nor a part of the Roman Catholic religion. Members of Baptist churches have been Catholic but the churches have not.

Historians have written of this fact,"...New Testament or apostolic churches were the ones that existed in the First Century. That they were Baptist is proved in their doctrine and practice. Every doctrine of Baptists is found in the New Testament. Histories by such non-Baptists as Mishiem (Lutheran), Gibbons, Erasmus (Catholic), Schaff (Lutheran), Ridpath (Methodist), Beza (Presbyterian), and others prove that the Christians of the First Century were Baptist. Ridpath even states boldly, "In the year 100 all Christians were Baptist." [Jarrell's Baptist Perpetuity, p. 59]

[Pastor Ezekiel]

AMEN!!!

Preach it Pastor Billy!! PREACH IT LOUD so satan can hear!!

[orangeisnotjustafrui]

Amen indeed, brother pastor billy! Amen and again I say amen. That's the reason the lord led me to become a baptist when he saved me.

Pray with me: Oh we thank you lord for not making us liars, whores and catholics. thank you for not making us infidels, buddists, and stuff. but for making us saved and saved again as baptists we surely give mighty thanks.

[Greyhund]

Baptists - that is true Baptists whose lineage comes from Christ

Baptists can't come from the lineage of Christ since Christ did not have any children... (or did I miss something?)

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Originally Posted by Greyhund

Baptists can't come from the lineage of Christ since Christ did not have any children... (or did I miss something?)

I know you said in another thread that English is not your first language. The word "lineage" can have other connotations besides the biological sense. W. A. Jarrell meant a spiritual lineage.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Shout GLORY!!!