[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by Adam Ski

As I said, we don't know how life came to be on the Earth. We know it is here and from your point of view I feel that God, who has more life than we do, would speak life to all the stars he made not just our Sol.

Yes we do.

20And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. 21And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 22And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. 23And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

What's wrong with you? You'll lap up anything in the Bible that makes you all :jumpy: for aliens but ignore the obvious.

[Adam Fag]

Originally Posted by Faith_Machine

ancient astronaut hypothesis.

That's not what I think in fact I think those books are crank science if even "science" at all. Well they're not science. They're junk.

Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

Four faces. ONE is human. THREE are of other animals.

And the angels are described as beings with these four faces, and with wings. You have shown a capsule with four humans in it.

No they're not. He does not state what it is with 4 faces. He looked at it and that's what he saw, just what you'd see if you looked at a plane with 4 crew.

But that's not all he saw. There were things with wheels that went where the "men" willed them to go, that is to say they drove them or flew them. Those words were not to hand so he chose from what few words he had.

Originally Posted by Zechariah Smyth

I'll be very direct here: God does not mention taking things from other planets and depositing them here, SO IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

They could have come of their own will though.

Originally Posted by Redeemed Papist

Yes we do.

20And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. 21And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 22And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. 23And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

What's wrong with you? You'll lap up anything in the Bible that makes you all for aliens but ignore the obvious.

Genesis 1:20 Yes. I can see where you've gone wrong. "God" says there were 2 types Genesis 1:6-7 high up (space) and low down (Earth) and that it all brought forth life.

Genesis 1:1 the "sky" Genesis 1:15

Lots of "skies" Genesis 2:1 with what we call "space" twixt them all Psalm 148:4

We have seen how God made a lot of "skies" (in the speech of the day) which needs a lot of worlds (to go with all those skies). To move from one to the next you'd need a boat. A large boat. A ship in fact. A space ship (or ark).

It would be said to "rise up" and so we need to have a look here Genesis 7:17

We now know this is a voyage through space and that would need huge thrust!

This much? No, far more. Check out Mars here

[Zechariah Smyth]

Originally Posted by Adam Ski

They could have come of their own will though.

Bullshit.



(John 15:16) "Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you."

YiC,

Zech

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by Adam Ski

It would be said to "rise up" and so we need to have a look here Genesis 7:17

We now know this is a voyage through space and that would need huge thrust!

First of all who is "we"? As in "We now know..."

The ark was made by Noah out of wood. It's a boat.

Genesis 6:14-16
14Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch. 15And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits. 16A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third stories shalt thou make it.

I've heard a lot of people try to twist scripture in a lot of ways, but you, sonny, are a new breed of nutjiob.

[Faith_Machine]

Wait...

Hold on...

Is he saying Noah's Ark was a space ship?

Whatever for? If you can survive a worldwide deluge by floating on the surface of the water in a boat, why would you instead choose to get off the planet in a space ship, which would take so much more energy and be so much more dangerous?

[Humongous]

well, I don't know what a Mars is, but it aughta get right with Christ!

YIC,
Lori H

[Adam Fag]

Genesis 6:14 we don't know what sort of wood that was or even if it was wood at all. Check out Gen 1:29 where "meat" means plants. We did nor eat beef or wren then, just plants, and the term "meat" was used for all foods (but meat was not one of them). In the stone age there was no Tin ot Zinc or Lead and "stuff you build with" may well have been called "wood" and please note I put may well have been not was.

Now we saw in my last post how men came to the Earth of their own will. Why did they come? Was their "sun" due to blow up? Did it go out? We know what they did when they got here, sexed their way through the near East with Earth girls Gen 6:1-2. Did they come from Mars? I don't think so but if they did they'd be quite tall Gen 6:4

There were Giants in the earth in those days___when the sons of God came in___

When is a great word! It tells us so much here. There were 2 things Giants and the sons of God. They were both here at the same time. As I type this it's as though the words scroll down in my head and I think I see how these 2 meld for the 1st time!!

If the Giants came from Mars and the Ark is parked at Mars then these two gtoups must be friends!!! But to live on Mars the sun would need to be too hot for life on Earth and there is no sign of life on Mars. Well not yet and I doubt there will be. But there could have been.
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Gopher wood or gopherwood is a term used once in the Bible, for the substance from which Noah's ark was built. Gen 6:14 states that Noah was to build the Ark of גפר, gofer, more commonly gopher wood, a word not otherwise known in the Bible or in Hebrew. Although,Older English translations, including the King James Version (17th century), simply leave it untranslated. The word is unrelated to the name of the North American animal, the gopher.

The Hebrew word "gopher" is used only once in the Bible, in Genesis 6:14. God told Noah to "make yourself an ark of gopher wood." Because no one knows for certain what "gopher" means in this context, the King James Version and the New King James Version simply leave the word untranslated and say "gopher" wood.

I will need to think more on this. Oh yes. Here's my "nerve aid" I love it!
Feel free to use it, it does zing up the nerves.

[Redeemed Papist]

We didn't see anything. YOU saw.
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[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Adam Ski

This is a very powerful prayer against Witchcraft. This prayer can shut down witches and satanists forever. Being that this prayer basically shuts down the senders of the hexes and vexes by returning their evil to them sevenfold. I now hurl it at you in Christ's name!


Father,
In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, I plead the precious uncorruptable blood of Jesus over myself and my church and everything that belongs to us. I ask for giant warrior Angels to be loosed from Heaven to surround and protect us. As your war club and weapons of war I break down, undamn, and blow up all walls of protection around all witches, warlocks, wizards, satanists, and the like, and I break the power of all curses, hexes, vexes, spells, charms, fetishes, physic prayers, physic thought, all witchcraft, sorcery, magic, voodoo, all mind control, jinxes, potions, bewitchments, death, destruction, sickness, pain, torment, physic power, physic warfare, prayer chains, and everything else being sent my way or my family members way, and I return it and the demons to the senders right now!, SEVENFOLD, and I BIND it to them by the Blood of Jesus!

Father, I pray that these lost souls will find the light of your son Jesus.. Their own snares and traps have been set against themselves.. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth I now loose them from all mindcontrol of satan!.. Father I also ask that you Bind the Holy Spirit to there hearts as a guide to your son Jesus.. So they may be set free from the bondages of satan.

In Jesus name I pray..
Amen

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Zeke -

In the time it took me to read your prayer, I threw up twice, and then promptly fainted.

I'm sure I didn't have a demon. It was probably just that hypnotic image in the background. Right?

[Faith_Machine]

Yes, it's a mistake to look at that image for even a few seconds. I did, and found myself going into some kind of trance. When I snapped out of it, my trousers were unzipped. I fear I may have suffered a succubus attack.

[Adam Fag]

I don't want to make a great big long post but must tell you what I've done for a week or two, now.

There are a lot of threads and at first I'd just read a few. I took the time to read a lot more. Now I can see that you do think a God made the world - by speech it seems - and that your God put life here and then killed it all. A few were saved and then most of them were cursed, killed or maimed due to God and due to their own "wrong" thoughts. That is if their thoughts were not mad they were killed. Age or sex did not rank. That is called Love.

Next your God wrote your book by the pen in mens' hands (just like all the "false" Gods) but your book is the one that's true. It tells us things which could not be known at the time, things which the "false" books don't say such as that the Earth and the Sun and Moon were made and did not use to be here at all.

Real false books do not say that. They say the Earth was here for all time and will be BUT IT WON'T. So far so good. Your book is right. The "false" books are false. The Earth has a start and the Earth has an end, as we now know to be FACT. The false books are full of rot and so the "false" gods must be false too.

I can't start a new thread so will put my thoughts here and thank you all for your posts.

post#30 Ezekiel Bathfire

I think we all know where the ice came from but I was glad to see that you read a broad range of stuff.

from your link -> that's not bad, not bad at all. I won't grab the rest of Walt Brown's stuff though, you don't think it's too good PLUS well, is he blind? or mad? or both?

Made me think

post#49 Rev. M. Rodimer

"This fold" = the Jews. Jesus came and spoke to the Jews.
Outside "this fold" = Gentiles. The apostles carried Christianity to the Gentiles, who were outside "the fold".

Luke was not a Jew LINK

Luke was a Gentile. He is the only New Testament writer who was not a Jew. He addressed his gospel to a fellow Gentile, named Theophilus.

That should do for now.

post#57 Redeemed Papist

I have no time for "code" or "we the few who know" or "this" or "that" the words mean what they say and I take them as they are. But old words have changed - "Gay" shows that trend quite well - and where we have words from a dead world to deal with we need to look at what we have NOW to glimpse what they meant THEN (see #30). So far we're all on the same wave length

post#104 Faith_Machine

You seem to "get it" but there is just one thing. I don't say it is so, I just think, "could it be so" and I must add we ARE those "space men" the "sons of gods" and the fact that God made us does not mean that we're not. If the Sun were the only star, if the stars weren't the same as the sun (but far off) and if they don't have life and if life on Earth is all the life there is GOD STILL MADE LIFE IN SPACE! We are that life and if "Sons of God" did not come to Earth and cross breed with us we are still space men.
The Earth is still in space

Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

All life on Earth has come here on a ship but where did it come from?

post#106 Lady Effect

You're on the ball, aren't you Eff? I read a post (which I can't find now) that said Man was made twice = pre plants and post plants but that post is wrong. Your book does not say two things, I think, it just says the one thing so here we go

Genesis 2:4,5 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.

So where were they? Next God made man

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul

and next God put plants here, on our Earth, so that Man would have somewhere to live

Genesis 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed

Where did God form the man?

Next God made the plants he'd moved to Earth, grow for the man (or else he'd starve)

Genesis 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

The plants were not here first. God made them first, just not on this Earth. If it were not so he would have told us. And he DID tell us. We don't have to guess, it's writ in black and white. All we have to do is read it. Do you read it Eff? Do you think it's true? I do. Or do you think it's all lies?

posts#113&#116 Faith_Machine

Originally Posted by Faith

Explain to me, please, exactly how life that evolved on another planet, completely separated from ours, could possibly wind up producing a species of intelligent life that was "the same as us"?

God did it and, your next point, they are not "the same as" us, they are us.

Originally Posted by Faith

Actually, we do know exactly how life came to be on Earth. Read Genesis.

Job done, see Gen 2.

post#120 Zechariah Smyth

Originally Posted by Zech

I'll be very direct here: God does not mention taking things from other planets and depositing them here, SO IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

Yes he does, see Gen 2 - we're so close in what we think. It MUST BE SO if God says it was that way - but God does not say where the plants were made, though - so why did God say it if it were not true?

[Redeemed Papist]

That's all well and good but how are you going to go to Heaven?

[Faith_Machine]

Originally Posted by Adam Ski

Yes he does, see Gen 2 - we're so close in what we think.

No, we're not.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Originally Posted by Adam Ski

***blah blah blah ****

Yes he does, see Gen 2 - we're so close in what we think. It MUST BE SO if God says it was that way - but God does not say where the plants were made, though - so why did God say it if it were not true?

***** SCREEEEEEEECH!!!! *****

Please point out to me exactly where in Genesis 2 that God says He took things from another planet and put them on Earth.

You keep trying to make it look like God has some Home Depot on another celestial body, but there simply isn't any Scriptural basis for that lunacy.



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Holyfield]

Satan wants us to believe that aliens are some sort of peaceful technologically advanced race with creative powers. But that is not true. Aliens are demons and devils!

UFOs, ALIEN ABDUCTIONS AND SPACE ALIENS ARE REAL!

Only God is good!


Mark 10:18"And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God."

[Adam Fag]

GENESIS 2
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created , in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground

[Adam Fag]

Originally Posted by Holyfield

Satan and so on…

True Christian response
I don't say that. Mad men are mad all the time. God is not. Why would you have "God" mad?

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by Adam Ski

GENESIS 2
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created , in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground

Have you never noticed when planting a plant that there is a point before you plant it when it is not in the earth?

You're really trying, I'll grant you, but alas your space aliens and other worlds seem no closer to existing.

[Adam Fag]

Originally Posted by Redeemed Papist

Have you never noticed when planting a plant that there is a point before you plant it when it is not in the earth?

You're really trying, I'll grant you, but alas your space aliens and other worlds seem no closer to existing.

Thank you - I can't find the thread/post where it said God was wrong to say what he did in DAY 2 and DAY 6 but I do not say that and I don't tell lies. I do put what I think, at the time, and ask "why" or "how" and do read what you have to say too. I'll go and look at my nerve aid for a bit now, it's a great help I find as if a thought goes in one side and then something happens and a new thought comes out at you from the other side. It just takes 2 or 3 hours.

I've got a few more here if you'd like to try them out I could send 1 or 2 (but I can't post on your home page)