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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?? - 04-17-2012, 07:05 PM

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I read your article. I'm not against you, In fact I respect your opinion, It's like school if you don't follow you get punished. But I'm really against with the RAPE topic, and the girl should marry rapist and if she doesn't she should be stoned to death.
Then no, you don't respect their opinion. You are (in modern, Western societies) forced to accept their right to hold that opinion, but you're still allowed to think that they are quite insane and that the Bible, far from being a divine revelation of some "Almighty God"s Word and instruction manual for mankind, should be banned as hate literature. It's what I do.

OTOH, telling them that they're wrong about what the Bible says is dishonest, and don't expect me to defend that.


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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?? - 04-17-2012, 07:23 PM

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Well I ignore yours too..!!
Young lady. When we finally have a bunch of politicians with morals enough to get laws from God into the statue books should we;

a. Follow the wondrous and perfect word of God
b. Follow the potty mouthed rantings of a hormonal teenager?



Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?? - 04-17-2012, 07:32 PM

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Young lady. When we finally have a bunch of politicians with morals enough to get laws from God ;

Follow the wondrous and perfect word of God
Lol. Did he call you?
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Lol. Did he call you?
Are you diseased in the brain, girl? Why would God need to call me? He left me all I need to get by and sent His only son to die so I could be washed clean of sin in His blood. What could possibly make more sense?



Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?? - 04-17-2012, 07:38 PM

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Then no, you don't respect their opinion. You are (in modern, Western societies) forced to accept their right to hold that opinion, but you're still allowed to think that they are quite insane and that the Bible, far from being a divine revelation of some "Almighty God"s Word and instruction manual for mankind, should be banned as hate literature. It's what I do.

OTOH, telling them that they're wrong about what the Bible says is dishonest, and don't expect me to defend that.
Sum it all up, "you don't believe in bible, right?"
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Sum it all up, "you don't believe in bible, right?"
Didymus is an insane God-hating atheist who just stays the right side of respect for the fact he knows we are right about the Bible enough so I can't ban him as much as I want to.



Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?? - 04-17-2012, 07:48 PM

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Are you diseased in the brain, girl? Why would God need to call me? He left me all I need to get by and sent His only son to die so I could be washed clean of sin in His blood. What could possibly make more sense?
If you start making some sense rathar than following something blindly.
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If you start making some sense rathar than following something blindly.
It doesn't matter if you're blind, as long as you know the Way™.

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Sum it all up, "you don't believe in bible, right?"
Gee, what was your 690865436904th hint?

With reading comprehension skills like yours, I doubt you'll ever be a True Christian™.

Go try the pagans or wiccans, they don't care what you do or think. Just know you'll never get to Heaven that way.


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If you start making some sense rathar than following something blindly.
What by listening to you and your filthy mouth?



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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?? - 04-17-2012, 08:12 PM

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Didymus is an insane God-hating atheist who just stays the right side of respect for the fact he knows we are right about the Bible enough so I can't ban him as much as I want to.
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sigh. its sad to see the world of christianity can't exist without racist ignorant bigots who try to live in the old days when woman were property. yet they say their MODERN christians.
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sigh. its sad to see the world of christianity can't exist without racist ignorant bigots who try to live in the old days when woman were property. yet they say their MODERN christians.
Mangling of language to one side... Why do you think women are not property? What scripture tells you this is what God wants?

Or are you just trying to apply secular principles to constrain God's will?



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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?? - 04-17-2012, 09:51 PM

no its called THE LAW!!!!! i see your a "patriot" when your a old country sexist racist bigot. why do you not have a good wife one whos strong willed? oh yeah because you prey on weak willed women.
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no its called THE LAW!!!!! i see your a "patriot" when your a old country sexist racist bigot. why do you not have a good wife one whos strong willed? oh yeah because you prey on weak willed women.
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?? - 04-17-2012, 09:54 PM

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I read your article. I'm not against you, In fact I respect your opinion, It's like school if you don't follow you get punished. But I'm really against with the RAPE topic, and the girl should marry rapist and if she doesn't she should be stoned to death.
Yes This is what God commands us to do. I think your problem is that you see rape as some sort of offence against the girl. It is not. It is an offence against her father. And her father does not "ask her to marry" the rapist - God commands the rapist to compensate the father and marry the girl. There are other provisions if ownership of the girl has been transferred to some third party, all mentioned in the thread. Read it.

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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?? - 04-17-2012, 11:34 PM

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So what your saying here is:
Me as her father would have the right to beat the ever living $%#& out of him till he fell dead, or accept his $190?
Oh and has anyone considered the inflation rate on $190 over 2000 years ago? what would the price be in todays market?
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?? - 04-17-2012, 11:40 PM

Oh and even if raped, abortion should not be a thought to anyone. There are plenty of married couples willing to adopt that cant have children.
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So what your saying here is: I as her father would have the right to beat the ever living $%#& out of him till he fell dead, or accept his $190?...
No, that's not what she said. You, as her father, have the DUTY to accept the shekels (or point out where in the Scripture it says you have any choice in the matter).

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Please point out in the Scripture where it says "50 shekels of silver (adjusted for inflation)".

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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?? - 04-18-2012, 12:46 AM

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So what your saying here is:
Me as her father would have the right to beat the ever living $%#& out of him till he fell dead, or accept his $190?
Oh and has anyone considered the inflation rate on $190 over 2000 years ago? what would the price be in todays market?
Where are you getting $190?

A shekel is a measure of weight. 50 shekels of silver is a volume, not a dollar amount.

Meanwhile, you obviously have no clue about the value of a woman in God's eyes, and why this law is good for women.

You see, a virgin girl can be married off, and often bring a dowry to her father. This is recompense for his efforts in feeding and raising her until she is at a marriagable age.

What happens if a man rapes the girl? She is no longer a marriagable asset. Her value has been destroyed. Her potential husband can't be certain that he'll be the father of the firstborn!

Therefore, the rapist is required to compensate her father (the dowry) and marry her, and is not permitted to divorce her. This keeps the father from being forced to take care of a spinster for the rest of her life, and allows the woman to have a husband and children.

As for stoning the woman if she refuses? That may be an interpretation.

I suspect the father could accept the dowry and kick the girl out if she refuses to marry.


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