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Default Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes. - 02-02-2011, 12:37 AM

For ages evil lieberals have used their twisted satanic logic to persuade good people from hitting their kids. They have used all manner of evil propaganda, everything from movies, to newspaper articles, to public service announcements. I'm here to tell you that this is not true. Beating your kids is perhaps one of the only ways to get a message across to a small child. You see, what scientists won't tell you is that a child's brain is not as developed, and therefore will not understand if you "ask them nicely" not to do something. For example, let's say your child breaks your favorite crucifix. While you could probably just get a new one, and if you are a real Christian you no doubt have more, you need your child to know that he/she has done you wrong. What would a lieberal do? Give them a prissy, politically correct "talking to"... This does nothing. Your kid is most likely too stupid to understand what you are saying, and even if they did, they probably wouldn't remember. However, no matter how old you are, you've got to understand a physical punishment. Even Godless animals understand that they have done wrong when you hurt them. Also, your kids will ALWAYS remember NOT to do it again, because they have scars and bruises to remind them of it.

Most of you probably know how beneficial it can be to beat your children. However there can be enormous side affects from NOT BEATING YOUR KIDS! The following are just a few side effects that lieberals won't tell you

1. Neglecting to beat your kid will make him gay.
It is a known fact that homersexuality is a choice. Of course you will meet godless mormons who say different, but who needs them. So why would your kid decide to be a dirty homer? It could be because you never enforced discipline onto him. See, if your father beats you as a child, you will always be afraid of him, the way God intended. However, if you give him the impression that you accept him and that you love him either way, he will get all kinds of sick ideas into his head. I have seen it happen over and over again. I know my children will never turn to Satan, because they know I will beat the life out of them if they do.

2. Not being beaten can lead to being a criminal.
Why do you think people do criminal things? Why do they steal? Why do they rape? Why do they murder? It's because when they were a child, they would misbehave and not be corrected. You see, not being beaten can scar kids for life. They will forever think you don't care enough to hit them. They will also grow up thinking that they can do whatever their little sinning hearts desire and not face the back of your hand.

2. Children who are not beaten grow up weak.
Let's say that your kid grows up and joins the army. Fortunately, you beat him often, giving him only enough time between beatings for his blood to dry. When he ships off into Iraq, he will be ready for anything. Having been raised on pain, he will be ready to deal with the cruelty of the non-believers. Now let us say that another child was raised by a lieberal, and was not beaten. Pain will be a NEW THING to him, and he will be killed in the first minute. Do you really want this happening to your offspring?

Not sure how to get started? Here's a helpful guide

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=beat

^This is a good article to read if you are a beginner at beating your kids. For those of you too lazy to click the link, here are the highlights of the page.

"-Five across the eyes: This is a very basic maneuver and usually enough to cover most situations when your child is out of line. Simply put four fingers tightly together and either leave the thumb off to the side or fold it behind the other four fingers. Then smack your kid across the face with the back of your hand. Now this is the tricky part: make sure to snap your wrist just before contact otherwise you won't get a stinging effect. Very important because you don't want to risk letting your kid think you're a pussy.

-The sucker punch: Just ask the question "hey, what's that on your shirt?" and when they look down, bust their lip. You need to do this every now and then to keep them guessing. Don't ever let them off the hook. Just because they're not doing anything wrong doesn't mean that they didn't do something wrong earlier that you weren't aware of.

-The yard stick: Or for those of you who don't use the arbitrary American system, this is also known as "the meter stick." This is a good general purpose beating because the stick usually doesn't last beyond three or four good whacks--usually enough to send the message.

-The one-two shut-the-hell-up: This is priceless when you're shopping and your kid won't shut the hell up: "I'm hungry, I want toys, I need my Insulin..." etc. First smack your kid (the 5 across the eyes technique works). Wait a few seconds for your kid to start crying, then smack your kid again to let him know that you mean business. This usually shuts them up because they see that the amount of crying is proportional to the amount of beatings.

-The 2 x 4 / PVC pipe: If you do your job as a parent, this should never have to be administered. This is for heavy duty jobs only (ie. any time your kid comes home and begins a sentence with "she might be pregnant..." or "I can if I want to..." where the blank can be any of the following: smoke, have sex, experiment with drugs, watch Oprah, etc). Usually the threat of this beating is enough to keep your kid from screwing up.

-The Dragon Kick: If you're interested in a permanent solution to your child giving you lip about washing the dishes, cleaning his or her room or filing your tax return, then the Dragon kick might be the technique for you. I guarantee that you will only have to ask once after the Dragon kick has been administered.

-The skull thump: A quick blow usually dealt to the side or back of the head. Simply flick them in the head with your finger. An alternative is to smack your child up side the head with your palm. Very useful for teaching your child to read when he or she makes a mistake. Hitting your child when he or she is learning builds confidence, or undermines confidence--I can't remember which.

-The one-handed chauffeur reach around: A quick reach around while you're driving to smack your kid and his friends too if they disrespect. Swerve the car back and forth for the full effect.

-The cane intercept: If you're too old to chase your kid around the house, use the handle of your cane to trip him if he tries to get away. When he gets up, poke him in the head a few times to let him know who's boss."

But what does the Bible have to say about all this?
It's on my side!

Proverbs 13:24
- He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes

Proverbs 23:13
- Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.

Proverbs 29:15
- The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.

Sirach 30:1
- He that loveth his son causeth him oft to feel the rod, that
he may have joy of him in the end.

The Bible has a very clear guide to parenting. A father can benefit from the word of the Lord on this subject especially

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Default Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes. - 02-02-2011, 01:57 AM

I could not agree with you more. The satanic liberals will tell you that hitting your children can cause emotional and physical damage. But that is not proven. The Bible tells us that hitting our kids is the only effective form of discipline, and all of us True Christians™ know that. Without the ability to beat our children, they would grow up to be all sorts of evil and secular things, such as gay, atheistic, satanic, liberal, and catholic, just to name a few. I beat all of my children 6 times a day just to shape them up. Then additional beatings occur when they misbehave and don't act as True Christians™ should.


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Default Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes. - 02-02-2011, 02:14 AM

Good for you. If you don't beat your kids, you don't love them. it's as simple as that.
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Default Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes. - 02-02-2011, 02:35 AM

SHOUT GLORY Brother LFC.

NOT beating them is child abuse!

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Default Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes. - 02-02-2011, 02:54 AM

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SHOUT GLORY Brother LFC.

NOT beating them is child abuse!

btw, have you joined our parenting group yet? You would be a wonderful addition to our GODLY Group.


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I just joined the group . It's so nice to see my views are shared. Normally people tell me they are "crazy" or "unorthodox", but I stick to my beliefs, because I know God agrees with me.
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Default Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes. - 02-04-2011, 02:46 AM

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SHOUT GLORY Brother LFC.

NOT beating them is child abuse!

btw, have you joined our parenting group yet? You would be a wonderful addition to our GODLY Group.


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Here is another excellent thread on How to Make Children Behave in Church. Our youth need all the help they can get since we are living in the Last Days. ENJOY!


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Default Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes. - 02-04-2011, 04:49 AM

hopefully Jesus will hear the crys from the abused children you wish to beat on.
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Default Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes. - 02-02-2011, 02:37 AM

People who don't bet their kids are disobeying the Bible. By disobeying the Bible, you are disobeying God, because God wrote the Bible. He tells us so in the Bible. And we all know that disobeying God is a one way ticket to damnation.


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People who don't bet their kids are disobeying the Bible. By disobeying the Bible, you are disobeying God, because God wrote the Bible. He tells us so in the Bible. And we all know that disobeying God is a one way ticket to damnation.
Exactly. I hate wishy washy false Christians who claim their "ethical" standpoint is supported by God... Clearly NOT sinners!
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However there can be enormous side affects from NOT BEATING YOUR KIDS!
Amen to that Brother! Not beating your children will send them straight to Hell!

Proverbs 23:14 "Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell."


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Amen to that Brother! Not beating your children will send them straight to Hell!

Proverbs 23:14 "Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell."
Exactly! I know in my heart that I am saving my children from damnation every time I strike them.
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May those that do not love their family ignore them. My wife and kids know I acknowledge thier existence with every sting of my switch. For if I did not love them, I would pay them no mind. If I did not want to to learn, I would not bother to teach with the back of my hand.


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Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes. - 02-03-2011, 10:16 PM

There is a fine line between "punishing and abusing" your children.

And if you serious think those quotes from God means he wants you to hit your kids so hard that you leave bruises and they cower in fear of your presence, you are sadly mistaken.

Jesus already paid harshly for our sins, and your children's as well.

I can tell you that I grew up without a father and my mother never laid a hand on any of us, she taught us respect and love with words and we learned from that.

You can not beat respect into a person and if you think respect comes from fear, then your also wrong, respect comes from love.

Most children today that suffer physical abuse relate being hit to being loved and never know what real love is and continue this cycle with their own kids and family.

Like I said, physical abuse is not what God wishes for.
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Jesus already paid harshly for our sins, and your children's as well.

I can tell you that I grew up without a father and my mother never laid a hand on any of us, she taught us respect and love with words and we learned from that.
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Like I said, physical abuse is not what God wishes for.
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I guess that is why Jesus whipped people for defiling the temple.

John 2:15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;

Jesus speaks of servants being beaten.

Luke 12:47-48 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

Those are just a couple of instances where the LORD used or calls for physical punishment.


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Default Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes. - 02-03-2011, 10:35 PM

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There is a fine line between "punishing and abusing" your children.
You're right. You are abusing your children if you don't hit them. Don't think of it as "striking them" think of it as "shaping them into good Christians"... My father beat me mercilessly, and I turned out just fine.

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And if you serious think those quotes from God means he wants you to hit your kids so hard that you leave bruises and they cower in fear of your presence, you are sadly mistaken.
Did you read those quotes? God means these things literally. You cannot pick and choose hat you believe in the Bible. It's ALL true. I could quote more examples of this in the Bible, would you like that? I only put a few because I assumed that the reader would be intelligent enough to let those verses speak for themselves. I am sorry you are so stupid. God has obviously cursed you with a low IQ.

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Jesus already paid harshly for our sins, and your children's as well.
Jesus DID die for our sins, and if you think that's an excuse to start sinning again, you might as well be spitting on Jesus. Dirty, dirty sinner.

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I can tell you that I grew up without a father and my mother never laid a hand on any of us,
I am so SO sorry. I didn't realize you had such a rough childhood. It must be painful to have parents who don't love you. Consider attending counseling. Just because you were abused as a child doesn't mean that you have to take it out on God.

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she taught us respect and love with words and we learned from that.
I just threw up a little bit. You dirty hippy atheist liberal scum. Respect and love lead to drugs and sex. Reconsider your life son.

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You can not beat respect into a person
You are so wrong. You can bet your ass my kids pay me respect. They know what would happen if they didn't

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and if you think respect comes from fear, then your also wrong, respect comes from love.
Must I really suffer all if this hippy propaganda?

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Most children today that suffer physical abuse relate being hit to being loved
Thank you for proving my point

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and never know what real love is and continue this cycle with their own kids and family.
Good for them

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I said, physical abuse is not what God wishes for.
Have you even READ the Bible?

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God = Love
Haha, try telling that to Him as he casts you into Hellfire.
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Default Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes. - 02-04-2011, 07:34 PM

I agree.

Last time my 4 year old told me "NO" I hit her so hard that I broke her jaw, and now she can not eat, let alone sass me.

I know I did the right thing according to God because the Bible I hit her with upon landing on the floor opened to Leviticus 23 and a drop of her blood was on the following passage....

"The LORD said to Moses, 2 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘These are my appointed festivals, the appointed festivals of the LORD, which you are to proclaim as sacred assemblies."


That tells me she is it be held accountable for her actions.
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Default Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes. - 02-04-2011, 11:52 PM

My father destroyed me with VA of weapons...whips,bats,knifes,pipes...you named it - it was broken from my head - the result is

i am an expert in demonology,necromancy,chaos magic,black arts...again you name it and above that every time my father try to kick me around he automatically gets LUCIFER'S TOUCH - one of the most destructive hex i know and eventually when i stopped living with him i send that curse from time to time to remind him that i am still out there and one day i will use his soul for my needs.
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Default Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes. - 02-05-2011, 12:23 AM

Thanks for reminding us that The Bible teaches all we need, especially in the important arena of disciplining children. III John v4

However I noticed one or two words that are unlikely to be typo's and may suggest a remnant of papist influence: II Corinthians 13:5

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• Sirach 30:1
The Pastors will be able to assess that, if you were to contact one of them - and fetch it out of you as/if necessary. II Peter 3:14
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Default Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes. - 09-10-2013, 05:44 PM

I must say I fully agree -- My grandmother was a US born citizen and a governess of true up bringing of children under God. Her methods included regular punishment and spanking of us unruly children. I am so thankful to Her for every time She decided to have me given a corrective spanking ! I am a true believer and wish She was here to continue to spank me and correct me on the road to the way of Jesus.
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Default Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes. - 02-11-2014, 06:15 PM

You all beat your kids? Are you out of your minds?! That's abuse! That's disgusting behavior, shame on all of you!


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