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Default Re: Threw a kid overboard - 07-18-2013, 08:06 PM

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I am not an atheist, and I am not asking you, I was asking about the kid to whoever was at the lake. If I am an atheist, Then I would not have quoted Scripture to correct irrational thinking! And if you told me that "you atheists don't make a lick of sense." then how are you replying to my posts?
Why are you making this thread all about you? This thread celebrates the safety of the real victim here - Jesus. Kindly acknowledge this fact and join us glorifying Him, or step off.



Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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Default Re: Threw a kid overboard - 07-18-2013, 08:31 PM

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As I pointed out: no one was killed.

Anyone can post Scripture on the internets with out understanding the literal message.

So, once more with feeling: 'nobody was killed'.

How can you not see that? 😂

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ok, Exodus 20:13 "Thou Shalt not kill." Its pretty clear to me, Its bad to kill people. I understand that verse . I guess you have a point that if the kid died someone would have mentioned it. Ok, I should not have started this big argument.
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Default Re: Threw a kid overboard - 07-18-2013, 09:41 PM

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ok, Exodus 20:13 "Thou Shalt not kill." Its pretty clear to me, Its bad to kill people. I understand that verse . I guess you have a point that if the kid died someone would have mentioned it. Ok, I should not have started this big argument.
Oh, ok, it seems that I have an infraction for "twisting scripture" ok, "thou shalt not kill" its PPERFECTLY CLEAR that the bible is saying not to kill, How did I get an infraction for stating fact!? you contradict yourselves!
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Default Re: Threw a kid overboard - 07-18-2013, 09:55 PM

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Oh, ok, it seems that I have an infraction for "twisting scripture" ok, "thou shalt not kill" its PPERFECTLY CLEAR that the bible is saying not to kill, How did I get an infraction for stating fact!? you contradict yourselves!
You need to look at Exodus 20:13 in light of the whole Bible. Killing isn't always wrong. For example:

Deut 7:1-2 When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou; and when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:

And if killing was always wrong, why would God kill babies?

2 Sam 12:15b And the Lord struck the child that Uriah's wife bare unto David, and it was very sick.

When you take Ex 20:13 out of context like that, you make it seem like killing is always wrong, and if that were true, God would be evil. Always look at Scripture in the light of the whole Bible.

You say you're not an atheist. We'd like to know more about you. Please start a thread in the introduction forum and tell us what church you go to, what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.


Mt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

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Default Re: Threw a kid overboard - 07-18-2013, 09:56 PM

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ok, Exodus 20:13 "Thou Shalt not kill." Its pretty clear to me, Its bad to kill people. I understand that verse . I guess you have a point that if the kid died someone would have mentioned it. Ok, I should not have started this big argument.
Are you seriously thinking that kid dies upon hitting water? If that kid can't swim and drowns later, he is not killed, he kills himself by drowning. In any case if you would read the bible in context, you would notice that those laws does not aply on heathens. In fact, there are many cases where God commands to kill. Such as;


Ezekiel 9:5-7

5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:
6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
7 And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.
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Are you seriously thinking that kid dies upon hitting water? If that kid can't swim and drowns later, he is not killed, he kills himself by drowning. In any case if you would read the bible in context, you would notice that those laws does not aply on heathens. In fact, there are many cases where God commands to kill. Such as;


Ezekiel 9:5-7

5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:
6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
7 And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.
In those scenarios. but if you are walking down the street and decide to suddenly stab someone for no reason, then that is not good. and if someone drowns they are not usually doing it on purpose. its when their lungs fill with water and they can't breathe because of it. If the kid tried to stay afloat but got tired of doing it and couldn't swim any more he might drown. So in that case its the water killing him.
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So in that case its the water killing him.
Yes, water could be the killer here, but more likely it's the kid himself that inhales the water inside his lungs. So it's still suicide in that case.
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In those scenarios. but if you are walking down the street and decide to suddenly stab someone for no reason, then that is not good. and if someone drowns they are not usually doing it on purpose. its when their lungs fill with water and they can't breathe because of it. If the kid tried to stay afloat but got tired of doing it and couldn't swim any more he might drown. So in that case its the water killing him.
Friend, perhaps you live in a sheltered environment, but in case you did not know, there is a war going on, a Christian war.
People die all the time fighting for decency. God takes many of the lucky ones to Heaven. Any time a True Christian ™ dies, it is the luckiest day of thier life.

Many heathens jump into water all the time to quench the burning of thier miserable souls. God shows His Magnificent mercy by filling them with His Cleansing Waters and hastening their trip to Hell.

Ever heard of the Cannanites?
Genesis 9:18-10:32
18 And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan.
19 These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.
20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
28 And Noah lived after the flood three hundred and fifty years.
29 And all the days of Noah were nine hundred and fifty years: and he died.
10 Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.
2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.
3 And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.
4 And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim.
5 By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.
6 And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan.
7 And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan.
8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.
9 He was a mighty hunter before the Lord: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord.
10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.
11 Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah,
12 And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city.
13 And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim,
14 And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim.
15 And Canaan begat Sidon his first born, and Heth,
16 And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite,
17 And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite,
18 And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad.
19 And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha.
20 These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.
21 Unto Shem also, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder, even to him were children born.
22 The children of Shem; Elam, and Asshur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram.
23 And the children of Aram; Uz, and Hul, and Gether, and Mash.
24 And Arphaxad begat Salah; and Salah begat Eber.
25 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.
26 And Joktan begat Almodad, and Sheleph, and Hazarmaveth, and Jerah,
27 And Hadoram, and Uzal, and Diklah,
28 And Obal, and Abimael, and Sheba,
29 And Ophir, and Havilah, and Jobab: all these were the sons of Joktan.
30 And their dwelling was from Mesha, as thou goest unto Sephar a mount of the east.
31 These are the sons of Shem, after their families, after their tongues, in their lands, after their nations.
32 These are the families of the sons of Noah, after their generations, in their nations: and by these were the nations divided in the earth after the flood.


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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