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Default United Methodists - Drag Queen Story Hour - 04-03-2021, 01:05 AM

It's not often that the Methodists rise to any level of notoriety, and most people are only vaguely aware of their existence - much less knowing what they believe. They are often thought to be a member of the ill defined group of "protestants" - something that arouse after Martin Luther peacefully nailed some posters on a church door complaining about the pope.

Over the course of history many have arisen to complain about the pope, including the British - then splitting into another group of cathylick wannabees known as the Church of England (aka the Anglicants). Not to be outdone with the pageantry of the homer fashion shows, we have the High Church Episcopalians and their lineage.

This is about the time where we come to the Methodists - another offshoot of the Anglicants with roots in the papists. John Wesley and his tiny group of followers came up with what they thought was a "method", and most observers at the time thought they were some kind of cult, and were obnoxious and boring - so no one paid any attention. Ignoring criticism, they finally started a real "church" which ended in disaster - because prospective parishioners found the experience - obnoxious and boring.

Like most of the Cafeteria Christians, the Methodists set out to changing the offerings on the steam table. Armies of dedicated Methodists proceeded to spend their time writing 6,000 Hymns - an impressive addition to the steam table menu. Now I haven't personally seen any of these hymns, but if they are all in praise of Jesus it would be quite an accomplishment. In an effort to see the glass as half full, at least you can be grateful they're not Calvinists.

The reason we're looking at the Methodists has to do with the alarming trend of "Ecumenism" around the world - and the rampant sin that arises when you try to cater to every whiny intersectionalist on the planet. Jesus is going to strike back.

I can't recommend one way or another whether you should click on the link in the article below. Be warned there are pictures on that site that once seen will be difficult to be un-seen. I would recommend that you be all be caught up on your tithing, and remember that Jesus is due His take of those stimulus checks.

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The UMC’s Drag Queen Clergy Candidate
Dan Moran on March 12, 2021

With the United Methodist Church’s recently announcing its General Conference would be rescheduled, further examples of the denomination’s rift over human sexuality are rising to the surface. The implementation of the church’s teachings and official doctrine, or lack thereof, continues to cause discomfort as camps with vastly different beliefs await an expected separation.

One such case comes from the Illinois-Great Rivers Annual Conference (IGRC), which covers the state except for its northernmost portion. IGRC’s Vermillion River District Committee on Ordained Ministry (DCOM) has recently unanimously approved Isaac Simmons, an openly gay man and publicly practicing drag queen, as a candidate for ministry. Mr. Simmons currently works at Hope United Methodist Church in Bloomington, Illinois as their Project & Remote Learning Coordinator. He also studies Business Management and Religious Studies at Illinois Wesleyan University.

When performing as a drag queen, Mr. Simmons goes by the name Ms. Penny Cost, and in this role he performs both independently and at times as a part of Hope Church’s Sunday services.

On his public Facebook page, Mr. Simmons shares about his spiritual life and his latest activities in drag as Penny.

On February 7, Simmons, dressed in drag, had several minutes of screen time in Hope Church’s livestreamed Sunday service. He begins by describing poet laureate Amanda Gorman’s poetry performance given at the Presidential Inauguration, and compares it to how Moses was called by God to speak for his people. A video of the whole service can be found on the church’s Facebook page.

Earlier in the year, on January 19, Simmons appeared as drag queen Penny, this time in a short video titled: “On The Move Together: A Drag Queen’s Prayer,” shared on Hope’s Church’s website.

To give just one line that is illustrative of the spiritual practices of Simmons and many others in deeply progressive United Methodist circles, the drag queen began by praying, “In the name of God the Mother, the Father, and the trans-identifying person of color.” A written reflection placed below the video notes the Presidential Inauguration which would come the next day, which would appear to be “the marvelous movement of a justice-filled moment of transition” that Penny invites those listening to join.
On January 2, Mr. Simmons shared a nearly 30-minute video of himself speaking and praying the Rosary at home while dressed in drag. His goal in wearing drag was “to bridge the gap between spirituality and queerness, to show that they are not mutually exclusive.” He shared that the Rosary is one of his spiritual practices, and that he prays it almost every night: “Even though it is a Catholic tradition and I am a United Methodist, and… in the ordination process of the United Methodist Church, I find solace, I find hope in praying the Rosary, especially amidst the pandemic, amidst chaotic times.”

This time, Simmons opened his prayer by saying: “In the name of the Parent, and the Child, and the Holy Spirit.” Throughout the video, he avoids describing God as Father completely, and alternates between calling Jesus the Son or Child of God. Interestingly, Simmons always keeps the gendered title of “mother” for Mary.

It is very likely that the Vermillion River District DCOM members were aware that being a drag queen was part of Isaac Simmons life. For one, it is publicly part of his ministry at the church where he works. Further, parts of the Traditional Plan enacted in 2019 and upheld by the Judicial Council require “full examination and thorough inquiry” by district committees on ministry, such as screening clergy candidates’ social media.

As strict matters of church law, neither simply have same-sex attractions (without being a “self-avowed practicing homosexual”) nor dressing in drag disqualify him.

However, did the committee that unanimously approved of Mr. Simmons’s candidacy use good judgment? How many churches in their district or conference would be comfortable with a minister who is a drag queen? Would the people in the pews say his faith and works honor God and align with the Wesleyan tradition? Is Simmons committed to living by the UMC’s current sexual morality standards of either faithfulness in heterosexual marriage or celibate singleness?

In recent years, enforcement of church standards on sexuality in the ordination process has been dependent on the views of the resident bishop, district superintendents, and other local leaders.

District superintendents play a particularly important role because, as laid out in paragraph 666.1 of the Discipline, they annually nominate the members of the DCOM. In related news, Vermillion River District Superintendent Jim Barnett recently named the IRD as one of the demonic “principalities and powers” that are supposedly aligned to fracture the family of believers in Christ and “stir up trouble.” You can read his full column in IGRC’s March newsletter here.

While Isaac Simmons’s case is an exception to the norm in many ways, the post-separation United Methodist Church is headed for a future where we can expect such clergy candidates will be affirmed. The newly launched Global Methodist Church, by contrast, is founded on traditional Biblical views, and will aim to hold their clergy to clear standards on human sexuality and traditional Christian teaching about gender.

Update (3/16/2021): Simmons discusses his ordination candidacy here.

https://juicyecumenism.com/2021/03/1...rgy-candidate/


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Default Re: United Methodists - Drag Queen Story Hour - 04-03-2021, 06:51 AM

What exactly is the message here? They want to go to Church so He doesn't shovel them off to everlasting torment as described by Jesus, continuing here:
Mark 9:47-48 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Instead what happens is where God's Word offends them, they pluck THAT out and hope to sidestep unquenched fire and immortal worms for some reason? How does that work exactly? So they roll up, contradict God in effect feeling cursed by His words to lives of misery or however they describe their lot, then call Him a rotten liar? It must be so because if it were not they'd never adopt the lifestyle choices they're running with! Flat out THE OPPOSITE of everything He stands for. So why bother with His congregation at all?

Satan did the same thing. And The Bible is clear, it's the same outcome.
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