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Default Re: Honest Questions - 06-15-2009, 02:03 PM

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I think you are misinterperting the word. I do not "beat" my wife. I do discipline her however. Some consider any physical contact a "beating". Others, brutal strikes in fits a of rage.

Job 36:10 (King James Version)

He openeth also their ear to discipline, and commandeth that they return from iniquity.
So when you sin how are you disciplined?
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Default Re: Honest Questions - 06-15-2009, 02:33 PM

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Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: Honest Questions - 06-15-2009, 08:37 PM

See, I totally agree with that, Heathen_Basher. But a Jew can turn to Jesus and live according to His teachings. And those who died before the New Covenant, that lived according to God's Word and were Jews will be saved as well. I guess I'm like a peace keeper. I have been told I have been too nice to people who were rude and evil in the sight of God. But the same happened to Jesus, and we're told to be just like Him. I don't agree with arguing over someone's beliefs, even if I don't agree with them. I'm not one to judge others. I believe that's God's place.

James Hutchins, well I got the interpretation from some of the comments here that this church believes in beating their wives. Yeah, if I had a wife who, let's say commits adultery, I would probably slap her. I'd feel bad later, but that's just me... But I wouldn't choose someone to be my wife that would go around doing those kind of things. I'd make sure she's the right one before I would marry her. I just recently ended my relationship with my ex-girlfriend because she was not living up to God's Word. I'm glad I caught it ahead of time. But just from what I've read here, I honestly thought you all believed in "beating" your wives.

Now I've also seen you guys turn away a person who caught AIDs through a blood transfusion. I could understand if they got it from sex or drug use, but a blood transfusion?? Now, if it was of God or not, I don't believe that's our place to judge. He may have deserved it or he may not of. As a church, God's people, we are to always forgive other's for their sins just as Christ forgave us of ours. Well, that's what I believe. The second of the 10 commandments states to love our neighbor as we love ourselves. Jesus also taught that we are to love those who hate us, and bless those who curse us.

I do agree with portions of your doctrine, but it seemed to me that you guys took a lot to the extreme. But that's how I interpreted it and I think many other people have as well. That's why I wanted to know this stuff, that I would know the truth of this situation because what I had heard, and the few things I've read, have left me questioning these things. Beating someone, even your wife, is against the law as far as I know. But that's not what the Bible meant when the wive's are to be under their husbands authority. I hope I was clear in writing that. God bless.
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Default Re: Honest Questions - 06-16-2009, 12:03 AM

We've answered all of your other questions in other threads, but in regards to the AIDS part. The question isn't just about AIDS. It's the fact that the person got a disease at all. EVERY disease on Earth is a righteous punishment from the Lord Jesus. We would gladly accept that person, but first they have to admit that they deserved what they got, or else they are basically saying that God is unjust towards them.
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Default Re: Honest Questions - 06-16-2009, 12:42 AM

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Hi, my name is Jonathan, and I have some questions, hopefully someone can help me understand. I'm not here to bash you guys, or speak anything against you, I just want to understand how you guys see these things.

Now, I do believe Jesus is God manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit (John 1:14, 1Timothy 3:16). I also believe many other things you believe.


I did notice you guys believe in beating your wives.. Can you tell me where in the scriptures it says that is an okay thing to do? I don't believe in that, and here are my scriptures to support my belief. Again, I am not attempting to bash you, as many other's have already. Just trying to understand.

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Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Pro 5:18 Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.

Pro 18:22 Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of the LORD.

Mat 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

Mat 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Mat 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

1Co 7:3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

Eph 5:28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
Eph 5:29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:

Eph 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
Eph 5:32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Eph 5:33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.

Col 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
Col 3:19 Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.
Col 3:20 Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.

1Pe 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;

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Hopefully I explained my thoughts well. There are other topics I don't agree within your doctrine, but I am not here to bash you, but to only understand why you believe those things, and where in the Bible it supports them.

One last one before I have to go... Your views on the Jews. Can you please explain why you believe they are bad people? I know Jesus Himself was a Jew, and the majority of the Bible was written by them.

Well, I gotta' get into my prayer closet before church. I hope I can get some clear answers, and hopefully I have not offended anyone. I'm just seeking knowledge of your beliefs without any bashing, arguing, or bantering.

Thanks and God bless.

Thank you for posting these scriptures although I'm sure one of these so called "True Christians" will disagree and call you a False Christian.
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Default Re: Honest Questions - 06-16-2009, 12:50 AM

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Jesus is God.

He commanded others to keep the Sabbath holy to Him.

That doesn't mean He had to do the same.

So, Let me get this straight? Christ said "Do as I say, Not as I do?" I think not. At least that's not the way MY KJV1611 reads. I do believe you have a WARPED sense of the Bible. I pray for you without ceasing.
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Default Re: Honest Questions - 06-16-2009, 01:04 AM

No, God does NOT have to live up to our standard of judgment. For example, we are supposed to forgive everyone. BUT, God is allowed the damn souls for all eternity and never have any mercy on them.

Romans 9: 20Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
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Default Re: Honest Questions - 06-16-2009, 02:04 AM

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We've answered all of your other questions in other threads, but in regards to the AIDS part. The question isn't just about AIDS. It's the fact that the person got a disease at all. EVERY disease on Earth is a righteous punishment from the Lord Jesus. We would gladly accept that person, but first they have to admit that they deserved what they got, or else they are basically saying that God is unjust towards them.
See, that's where I begin to differ. I believe that the rain falls on the just and the unjust (Mat 5:45). If I caught the flu, for example, it isn't always because of a sin I commit. Although, I do believe sin is a curse and that we all commit sins daily, whether we try to or not, whether we know we caused it or not. Because sin came into the world by Adam and Eve, we are all cursed. But God came in the form of man, and died on the cross to forgive all sins of those who turn towards Him. The lady with the issue of blood, He healed her. Mary Magdalene, He forgave her. That's what Jesus came to do...

Luke 4:18-19 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, to preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

Even the blind man committed no sin, nor anyone in his family...

Joh 9:2-3 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.


So, now I have my answers, I see you people take some scriptures to the extreme. Like I said, and now I'm done here. I pray the Love of God show you the full truth. Because I know you have some truth, I don't see the Love of God in you. Jesus taught to forgive all of every sin, and to not judge... You've done the complete opposite. Don't worry about me, I won't return here. Like the pharisee's you judge other's for diseases they have, you take the laws to the extreme and don't show love and forgiveness, you're hearts too are hardened. To those who have beaten their wives, or longed to do so unto them after you're married, I pray you repent. God didn't call us to cast judgement, but to forgive and love one another as you love yourselves. Your wives are your helpers, not your slaves. The Jews did what God wanted them to do. They crucified Jesus because it was supposed to be so. Learn to love, for without the love of God, you're not His.

Gal 3:28-29 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

God speed, and God bless. I hope the Lord will convict hearts here to learn to love their wives, even in the worst of times... To show compassion for the sick... and to forgive other's of their sins.

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Default Re: Honest Questions - 06-24-2009, 09:24 AM

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Now that's just a loaded question! I was captain of the debate team when I was majoring in theology, so I know all about the tricks you atheists use you to make us Christians look bad. We don't beat our wives; we discipline them. There's a world of difference.

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Yes. One flesh. And as Paul explains later, the Man is the Head and the Woman is the Body. Is not the head in control of the body?



Yes. Enjoy your wife. That's what she's here for, to fulfill man's happiness. Again, a reference that women should be servants to a man's needs.



Yes, because as the Bible also illustrates, most women are vile whores. So finding a good wife is indeed quite rare, even rarer than rubies, the Bible tells us!



What's your point? God needed a human vessel so that Christ can be born in the flesh. Of course it's going to be a woman! Do you think he was going to impregnate Joseph???



Yes. Don't commit adultery and don't divorce. What does this have to do with women being equal to men like you claim the Bible supposedly does?

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Yes, one flesh. Again, as Paul later states the Man is the Head and the Wife is the Body. Clearly Jesus is saying women are men's property if they are one of the same flesh. After all, isn't your arms and legs your own property?



Every man in Landover Baptist Church follows this. We are all benevolent towards our wives. However, notice it is a two-way street. The wife is also required to be benevolent. What if she acts out of line or gets wayward? That's where loving discipline comes in.



We all love our wives. If we didn't love them, we would let them be naturally rebellious and damn their own souls towards Hell.



Similar to the above. Again notice the requirement of the wife to give reverence to her husband. As long as the wife doesn't misbehave, the marriage is fine.



Strange that you quote these Colossians verses, since it pretty much proves our point about women. Wives, SUBMIT YOURSELVES unto your husbands! Paul is clearly saying women are lower than us and we have a right to rule over them. There is nothing about feminism and gender equality in this. But, thanks for quoting it nonetheless so that we can prove our point!



Yes, be in subject to your husbands.

Now, from the Bible verses you quoted, you can plainly observe that a recurring theme is that the Man is the master over the Woman, and there is no such thing as equality. It is true you cannot discipline your equal, but since women are not our equals (as the Bible illustrates), we are free to discipline them until they get back on the right path.

I am not ashamed to admit, in fact, I am rather proud, I do give my young wife a good spanking on the bare buttocks with a cat o' nine tails every now and then. I never, ever hit her in the face or punch her in the stomach or anything. I am not a sadistic monster. I am a loving, caring husband who looks after her, just as the Bible commands me.

Glad to have answered your honest questions! Now you know why we are right, and you are wrong.
You call your idea of discipline and abuse different from each other? I would never lay a hand on my wife in a violent way. She listens to me. I listen to her. WE LOVE EACH OTHER!!! That is why you marry someone. Because you love them and want to start a family with them. NOT because you want someone to have sex with and be your servant. You do not teach them how to behave. You learn from each other!!! And you love each other.
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You call your idea of discipline and abuse different from each other? I would never lay a hand on my wife in a violent way. She listens to me. I listen to her. WE LOVE EACH OTHER!!! That is why you marry someone. Because you love them and want to start a family with them. NOT because you want someone to have sex with and be your servant. You do not teach them how to behave. You learn from each other!!! And you love each other.
A True Christian™ abhors violence. I am shocked you'd even let the thought enter your mind. I've read a few of your other posts and you certainly have some perverted and twisted thoughts. None of us ever lays a hand on anybody in a violent way. We instead offer our hand with form guidance.
We too love our wives and God. We too, want to have a family full of fine True Christian™ soldiers. We too, do not get married to have a servant. There are others that can do that. Everyone has roles to play in life. The man is the head of the household, everyone else plays a supporting part.
When mistakes are made, it is my duty to correct the errors and ensure it never, ever happens again.


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Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
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Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: Honest Questions - 06-25-2009, 12:28 AM

And is you'er idea of 'correcting' these mistakes hiting them in some way, shape, or form? Because I read some where on this site a man used to hit a pregnet woman in the belly to toughen the baby up and punish the woman for some thing that eve did only god knows how long ago. And he did not mean for you to keep punishing women for some thing he's already punished them for. Thats why child birth is painful.
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And he did not mean for you to keep punishing women for some thing he's already punished them for. Thats why child birth is painful.
Did you mom tell you that?


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Did you mom tell you that?
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Now, I do agree with women being subject to their husbands, but I'm not sure about beating them.
If you agree that women should be subject to their husbands, then you can't deny husbands the right to use reasonable force against their wives if they try to assert their independence. Take away a man's right to discipline his wife, and you'd have anarchy.
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See, I totally agree with that, Heathen_Basher. But a Jew can turn to Jesus and live according to His teachings.
Yes, a Jew can stop being a stingy Jew and get saved. An atheist can turn to Jesus as well, but that hardly means that atheists are God's chosen people now does it?
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So, Let me get this straight? Christ said "Do as I say, Not as I do?" I think not. At least that's not the way MY KJV1611 reads. I do believe you have a WARPED sense of the Bible.
Do you actually think we should try and behave like God? Laying down arbitrary rules, demanding constant affection, and killing anyone who crossed us? If we tried to behave like Our Lord, society would label us as psychopaths.
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You learn from each other!
What can you learn from a woman, tho? I mean, I understand they might have some useful tips on cooking and cleaning, but a man showing an interest in either of those subjects sounds kind of queer to me.
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And he did not mean for you to keep punishing women for some thing he's already punished them for. Thats why child birth is painful.
Yes, child birth is (part of) women's punishment for their role in original sin. But God has not already punished women for burning our steaks, so that's up to us.


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Thumbs up Re: Honest Questions - 06-30-2009, 06:46 AM

Completely argree
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Default Re: Honest Questions - 06-30-2009, 10:31 AM

Well, you two Homers should move to San Francisco and get married.


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Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: Honest Questions - 07-02-2009, 12:07 AM

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[/I]Jesus was a Jew. No he was NOT! The Bible was written by Jews. No, it was written by True Christians, who were also Baptists.
First of all, Jesus was Jewish. He celebrate passover and followed jewish law. Thats why he was in Jerusalem before he was crucified, to celebrate the passover. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)

Second, yes a large part of the bible was written by Jews. Who else would have written the Old Testament since Christians were not even around until after Jesus' death and the start of the New Testament.
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Default Re: Honest Questions - 07-02-2009, 12:36 AM

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First of all, Jesus was Jewish. He celebrate passover and followed jewish law. Thats why he was in Jerusalem before he was crucified, to celebrate the passover. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)
Consider yourself corrected. Jesus IS not a damned joo. Look at THIS!

You aren't even a Christian, are you.


Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: Honest Questions - 07-02-2009, 12:49 AM

I am Christian, and ok, I'll go with this for a second. What about the Old Testament, who wrote that?
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