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Default Re: Why haven't my tokens of virginity regenerated yet? - 04-20-2011, 01:47 AM

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Pardon? Where exactly did you get that crazy interpretation of neighbor?
From the Bible, actually.
Mark 12:31
And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

When looking at the original Greek text, neighbour here means: fellowmen, next-door neighbour, countrymen, near, far, anyone. Jesus, here, is saying that the second greatest commandment is to love EVERYONE as we love ourselves. Not just other Christians.


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After all, God specifically tells us to stay separate from sinners.
And yet, Jesus still hung out with them.
Matthew 9:10-13
And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples.
And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?
But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.
But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Not only that, but we are called to be lights unto the world. As Christians, we are not to hole ourselves up in our own little Christian worlds. No, you do not need to be constantly surrounded by sinners. But we are not to avoid them like the plague.
Matthew 5:13-16
Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
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Default Re: Why haven't my tokens of virginity regenerated yet? - 04-20-2011, 02:15 AM

Young lady, your lack of Christian discernment is illustrated by your failure to recognize our True Christian Love™ for what it is. If but the Holy Spirit dwelt within you as It dwells within me, you would have eyes with which to see and ears with which to hear.

If our hearts were not filled with love for all the unsaved trash of the world, why would we spend our time trying to win their souls for His Kingdom? The most hateful thing I can think of would be to ignore them as they wallow in depredation or, worse yet, molly-coddle them and tell them that their sinful nature is okay in the eyes of the LORD. God is very clear about how we are to do the work of evangelists and spread the Good News.

II Timothy 4:2-5
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

We are trying to snap them out of their delusion and exhort them to get right with Jesus!
God has brought them here for a reason. For us to just ignore their desperate cries for help would be completely antithetical to the Christian Love that we all feel for all of you. Please try not to be so hostile. We are only trying to help you and the rest of the unsaved trash who come here spewing hatred. It's not too late for you or for them. We want you all to join us in Heaven. We want you all to accept Jesus' kind offer of Redemption and become a True Christians™. It is precisely because of our Christian love that we scourge and chasten unsaved trash.

Hebrews 12:5-8
And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.


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And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
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Default Re: Why haven't my tokens of virginity regenerated yet? - 04-20-2011, 02:29 AM

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If our hearts were not filled with love for all the unsaved trash of the world, why would we spend our time trying to win their souls for His Kingdom? The most hateful thing I can think of would be to ignore them as they wallow in depredation or, worse yet, molly-coddle them and tell them that their sinful nature is okay in the eyes of the LORD.
And yet, those sentenced to death do not deserve the chance to receive God's saving grace? That does not sound like unconditional love to me. And if you are truly loving, why do you call the unsaved "trash?" I am glad I am already Christian, for this kind of statement would turn me away from the Lord. My friend, Christians are not exclusively the children of God. Everyone is. If only Christians were the children of God, why would he want to pursue the unsaved? Calling your brothers and sisters in Christ trash is not love.

I have not seen love on this site towards outsiders. Yes, you should help people see they are wrong. But we are called to speak the truth in love. It is far more effective to teach a child by encouraging them for the things they do right than constantly chastising them for what they are doing wrong. The same goes for non-Christians. Encourage them, love them. And yes, tell them when they are wrong. But do it in a loving fashion that won't want to make them turn from the Lord.

What will make us different from any other religion if not our loving state of mind?
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Default Re: Why haven't my tokens of virginity regenerated yet? - 04-20-2011, 04:11 AM

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Once again, I stick by the fact that Jesus has forgiven all sins of those willing to repent.
Of course He has. As He told the adulterous woman, "Go, and SIN NO MORE."

Not, "Go, and keep on sinning."

Not, "Go, and only commit little sins."

Not, "Go, and try not to sin so much."

No, He said, "Sin NO MORE." EVER.

He expects the same of you and me. He forgives sins of those who truly repent. Since your actions are the result of your choices, you must choose to sin.

If you choose to sin, you aren't Saved.

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And no, the LAWS of the Old Testament are not still in effect. The TEN COMMANDMENTS are. Two very different things, my friends.
Chapter and verse, please show me exactly where Jesus says that "only the ten commandments" are still in effect.


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Default Re: Why haven't my tokens of virginity regenerated yet? - 04-20-2011, 04:33 AM

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Of course He has. As He told the adulterous woman, "Go, and SIN NO MORE."

Not, "Go, and keep on sinning."

Not, "Go, and only commit little sins."

Not, "Go, and try not to sin so much."

No, He said, "Sin NO MORE." EVER.

He expects the same of you and me. He forgives sins of those who truly repent. Since your actions are the result of your choices, you must choose to sin.

If you choose to sin, you aren't Saved.
only God is perfect. man IS NOT PERFECT. therefore, even when man is saved, sin is inevitable. it is vain and naive to believe otherwise. Jesus commanded the woman to sin no more, yes. But even if she had sinned again and repented, he would forgive again. Satan WILL find ways to tempt you. everyone is prone to sin and EVERYONE falls short of the glory of God. Not just the unsaved. Not just the sinners. EVERYONE, thank you very much.


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Chapter and verse, please show me exactly where Jesus says that "only the ten commandments" are still in effect.
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Matthew 5:17-19
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

John 5:46-47
For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.
But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
This does not state explicitly that it is only the ten commandments. But seeing as all the other laws of the land fit into the ten commandments (if they are correctly kept), then he would be referring to the commandments. Paul says in his letter to the church of Colossae that the laws of the land are no longer necessary since Jesus' death on the cross. We are liberated from these, but not the ten commandments.
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Default Re: Why haven't my tokens of virginity regenerated yet? - 04-20-2011, 04:41 AM

I see that reading comprehension is not your strong suit, so I will reiterate what the Holy Bible (the New Testament, no less) tells us about how to show our Christian Love.

Hebrews 12:5-8
And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

Jesus makes it quite clear that not everyone is going to make it into Heaven, so we must serve as beacons of Truth in this sinful world so that those whom He has preordained to Salvation™ will hear True Doctrine. In fact, very few people will be joining us in Heaven. If you reject this notion, you reject Christ.

Matthew 7:14-15
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


Those who fellowship at our church actually read the Holy Bible (KJV 1611). We are not a congregation of cherry-picking, salad bar Christians who are so stiffnecked as to believe that they are actually in some sort of position to accept certain passages of Scripture that happen to coexist with their own vain, petty preconceived notions about what is right and what is wrong. We follow the Word of God, as it is written, without question. Our job is not to question God. Our job is to obey Him (i.e., following the Bible) and to fear Him (Deuteronomy 13:4).

We would prefer to preach True Doctrine to a small group of True Christians™ destined for a place at Jesus' bosom than to preach false, crowd-pleasing doctrine and pack out entire stadiums full of people who refuse to read the Bible, to understand the Bible, and to follow the Bible. We are serious about winning souls for Jesus, not merely gaining popularity in this world. In fact, God's Word makes it quite clear that we are to isolate ourselves from the wickedness of the world and abide in righteousness amongst ourselves. Again, from the New Testament:

I John 2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

II John 1:9-11
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

James 4:4
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

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And yet, those sentenced to death do not deserve the chance to receive God's saving grace? That does not sound like unconditional love to me.
Many people on death row have received Christ as their personal LORD and Savior before being executed. In fact, Jeffery Dahmer is sitting at the right hand of Jesus right now because he became Saved™ in prison. Similarly, Ted Bundy and David Berkowitz are also presently singing praise songs in Heaven because they accepted Christ before it was too late. Jesus' kind offer of Redemption is a gift, freely given (Romans 6:23). As long as people on death row accept Him in time, they will be joining us in Heaven.

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I am glad I am already Christian, for this kind of statement would turn me away from the Lord.
I'm not so sure that you are a Christian. After all, you seem to have no qualms about throwing out over 75% of God's Word. It takes a little bit more than raising your hand or checking a box on a questionnaire to actually be a Christian. I don't think it's too late for you, though, which is why my heart rejoices that the LORD has brought you to our forum.

But whether or not you will actually heed True Doctrine remains to be seen. After all, it was decided before you were even a gleam in your parents' eyes whether or not you are preordained to Salvation™ or eternal torments in the lake of fire which has been prepared for satan and his minions. Again, from the New Testament.

John 6:64-65But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given until him of my Father

John 15:16
Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

Romans 8:29-31
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

II Timothy 1:9
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

II Thessalonians 2:11-13
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:


Frankly, the jury is still out about you. I have asked the Holy Spirit to tell me whether you are predestined for glory or for torments, but the Holy Spirit just told me that I should teach you what the Bible actually says. I do hope that you will be joining me in Heaven, though. I really do.

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My friend, Christians are not exclusively the children of God. Everyone is.
Perhaps you care to support your assertion with Scripture? Or is this just an expression of your own vain, un-Biblical preconceived notions? The last I checked, the Bible makes it pretty clear whom the children of God are. Again, from the New Testament:

John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Romans 8:14
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.


That sounds like Christians to me. Feel free to point out where I may have missed some important Scripture.

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It is far more effective to teach a child by encouraging them for the things they do right than constantly chastising them for what they are doing wrong. The same goes for non-Christians. Encourage them, love them. And yes, tell them when they are wrong. But do it in a loving fashion that won't want to make them turn from the Lord.
I will follow the Word of God, not Dr. Phil. But again, if you can support your assertions with Scripture, by all means do so. Otherwise, I can only consider this to be your own vain, un-Biblical opinion - not the Word.

If preaching the Gospel turns unsaved trash from the LORD, then this is just clear evidence that they have been preordained to torments. Please refer to II Thessalonians 2:11-12, which I posted above, and to Matthew 7:14-15, also posted above. Further consider the following, from the New Testament:

Romans 9:13-16 , 21
As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

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Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

Simply put, you're either on God's good side or you're not. Whether you want to be Saved™ or not is irrelevant. If God likes you, you are preordained to glory. If He hates you, you're just out of luck.

If you reject these Bible Facts, then you reject the Word of God.

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What will make us different from any other religion if not our loving state of mind?
Lots of false religions preach love and compassion. They will burn in hell for eternity all the same. It is not how congenial we are in this life that matters, but whether we obey God's Word and shew His glory in all that we do. Only Christianity preaches Salvation™ in Jesus Christ, and only Christianity has the Word of God to back it up.

Our time in this world is short. It is the state of our souls after death that we should be worried about. You can have all the love in the world, but without accepting Christ and obeying His Word, you are doomed.

I hope that you have found this edifying, and I exhort you to take your faith more seriously.


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And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



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only God is perfect. man IS NOT PERFECT. therefore, even when man is saved, sin is inevitable. it is vain and naive to believe otherwise. Jesus commanded the woman to sin no more, yes. But even if she had sinned again and repented, he would forgive again. Satan WILL find ways to tempt you. everyone is prone to sin and EVERYONE falls short of the glory of God. Not just the unsaved. Not just the sinners. EVERYONE, thank you very much.






This does not state explicitly that it is only the ten commandments. But seeing as all the other laws of the land fit into the ten commandments (if they are correctly kept), then he would be referring to the commandments. Paul says in his letter to the church of Colossae that the laws of the land are no longer necessary since Jesus' death on the cross. We are liberated from these, but not the ten commandments.
It does not state at all that it is just the Ten Commandments that must be followed. Jesus says we must follow every jot and tittle of the law. You are trying to put your own meaning into scripture to water down the message. You say that all the other laws of the land fit into the Ten Commandments, which one says that homosexuals must be put to death?

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You are trying to put your own meaning into scripture to water down the message.
Indeed she is, Brother Jack. This is one of the things that worries me the most about her and her prospects for Salvation™. We know what the Holy Bible says about distorting God's Word:

Deuteronomy 4:2
Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Or, since our confused guest seems to require Scripture exclusively from the New Testament:

Revelation 22:18-19
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.


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In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



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only God is perfect. man IS NOT PERFECT. therefore, even when man is saved, sin is inevitable. it is vain and naive to believe otherwise. Jesus commanded the woman to sin no more, yes. But even if she had sinned again and repented, he would forgive again.
Where do you get that idea? Where did Jesus say, "If you decide to spit in my face and go sin some more, I'll forgive you anyway"?

You have never gotten as far as 1 John 3, have you?

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4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
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Satan WILL find ways to tempt you. everyone is prone to sin and EVERYONE falls short of the glory of God. Not just the unsaved. Not just the sinners. EVERYONE, thank you very much.
Wrong.

Everyone HAS sinned. As I have just pointed out above, those who are truly born again cannot sin. True repentance is a one-time thing.

Backsliding, are you? I assume from your continued defense of sin that you live a sinful lifestyle and expect forgiveness, no matter how many times you ignore God's Law and spit in the face of His Sacrifice. You betray Him with your selfishness and your petty desires.

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This does not state explicitly that it is only the ten commandments.
Exactly. It says ALL OF THE LAW.

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But seeing as all the other laws of the land fit into the ten commandments (if they are correctly kept), then he would be referring to the commandments.
Really? That's quite a feat of mental acrobatics you've managed there, dear.

ALL of the Law means ALL, not just the bits you like.

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Paul says in his letter to the church of Colossae that the laws of the land are no longer necessary since Jesus' death on the cross. We are liberated from these, but not the ten commandments.
Please show me, chapter and verse, where Paul says we are "liberated from the Laws of God, except the Ten Commandments, which encompass all the Laws of God anyway (according to Little Star Girl), so therefore we aren't really liberated from any of the Law."

Making up things and putting them in Paul's mouth doesn't make them Scripture, dear. And we're discussing God's Law here, not "the law of the land". Which, you may recall, we are directed to obey, because the worldly powers are placed over us by God.

By the way, I've heard it said that if you find that God believes all the same things you do, chances are you've created God in your own image. Something to think about.


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I am speaking from experience. I, too, made some stupid decisions and gave my virginity away. My h*men has not grown back, but I understand that God and Jesus have forgiven me for my sins. And even if the tokens of my virginity do not regenerate, I will be able to stand before the Lord on judgement day with no shame or guilt.

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I'm sorry, you've never sinned? That right there is a sin in itself. Humans are born naturally evil, and stating you have never sinned is a lie, and therefore a sin. And even if you hadn't sinned before, saying such a thing is both prideful and boastful, which are also sins. Sorry, hun, but you're not as clean as you think.




I'm sorry. She could be killed? Are you all living in the old testament? Because sins were FORGIVEN when Jesus died, and things were changed. The old laws were no longer necessary, because the world was cleaned with his death. Just saying.




So, let me get this straight. You have married three times? Where in the Bible does it say that is acceptable? Unless two of your wives died (and I apologize for sounding insensitive if they did) that is unacceptable. And, I'm sorry, but how were you a virgin for all three of them? Were you not sexually involved with the other two? You lose your virginity when you have sex. Plain and simple. It is not something you can get back. Once again, I am aware of this fact on a personal level. I do not understand how you were a virgin for all three wives, even if, as a guy, there is no visible sign of losing your virginity. Did you not tell the second and third? Because lying is most definitely a sin.
I will address this in random order. Hopefully you will be able to follow. He has been a virgin his whole life. Men who are not homersexuals or sodomites are always virgins. Aside from that, if you want to go with the sickular definition of virginity for a man, where in scripture does it say that a man can't be defiled by a woman? Where does it say that a man can be stoned for not having tokens of virginity on his wedding night? Scripture and verse please.

If your tokens have not grown back, maybe you haven't prayed/tithed enough. Could you be checking when you shouldn't be too? Yuck. I don't want to know.


Are you cherry picking scripture deciding what parts of the OT are relevant and what parts aren't? Don't you know scripture is to be taken literally?! You really should re-read your Bible front to back. You do read the OT, don't you? Or is it too inconvenient to face your mistakes. Without repentance and getting on the straight and narrow it won't matter missy,

Are you saying you are a sinner? I am pretty sure that sinners go to hell. At the very least you should see what Pastor Simpson has to say about it:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=60117


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Default Re: Why haven't my tokens of virginity regenerated yet? - 04-21-2011, 04:18 AM

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Many people on death row have received Christ as their personal LORD and Savior before being executed. In fact, Jeffery Dahmer is sitting at the right hand of Jesus right now because he became Saved™ in prison. Similarly, Ted Bundy and David Berkowitz are also presently singing praise songs in Heaven because they accepted Christ before it was too late. Jesus' kind offer of Redemption is a gift, freely given (Romans 6:23). As long as people on death row accept Him in time, they will be joining us in Heaven.
Yes, true. But there is a huge difference between accepting Jesus because you are afraid of dying and accepting him because you have truly repented. Those on death row do not get a chance to truly understand or witness God's saving grace.


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Our time in this world is short. It is the state of our souls after death that we should be worried about. You can have all the love in the world, but without accepting Christ and obeying His Word, you are doomed.

I hope that you have found this edifying, and I exhort you to take your faith more seriously.
I take my faith VERY seriously, thank you very much. And I follow God's word. I just do not follow the laws that were written for the Jews, not for Christians.


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Or, since our confused guest seems to require Scripture exclusively from the New Testament
I do not REQUIRE scripture exclusively from the New Testament. Once again, I just do not follow the laws written for the Jews.


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Everyone HAS sinned. As I have just pointed out above, those who are truly born again cannot sin. True repentance is a one-time thing.

Backsliding, are you? I assume from your continued defense of sin that you live a sinful lifestyle and expect forgiveness, no matter how many times you ignore God's Law and spit in the face of His Sacrifice. You betray Him with your selfishness and your petty desires.
No, no, no. This is where you are vain and naive. The true born again are still very much capable of sinning. I do not continue to sin and go about saying "it's okay because God will forgive me every time." No, I simply know that if/when I do screw up, because I know I will, God will forgive me if I repent. Salvation is only needed once, but repentance is needed constantly.


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If your tokens have not grown back, maybe you haven't prayed/tithed enough. Could you be checking when you shouldn't be too? Yuck. I don't want to know.


Are you cherry picking scripture deciding what parts of the OT are relevant and what parts aren't? Don't you know scripture is to be taken literally?! You really should re-read your Bible front to back. You do read the OT, don't you? Or is it too inconvenient to face your mistakes. Without repentance and getting on the straight and narrow it won't matter missy,

Are you saying you are a sinner? I am pretty sure that sinners go to hell.
I do not check. No, I simply know that they will not grow back because I made the decision to give my virginity away. I do not pray for God to return it, because I know that the Lord is not my personal attendant.


This is my last post on this forum, so let me leave you all with a few parting words:

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Jesus is all we need to get into heaven. Not Jesus AND the saints, not Jesus AND the angles, and not Jesus AND the laws. No, just Jesus.

Once again, the laws of the Old Testament were written for the Jews. As Christians, we are not bound by them.

I have no desire to join your denomination of the Christian faith, as I do not align myself with cults.

Thank you for your time, everyone.
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This is my last post on this forum, so let me leave you all with a few parting words:

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Jesus is all we need to get into heaven. Not Jesus AND the saints, not Jesus AND the angles, and not Jesus AND the laws. No, just Jesus.

Once again, the laws of the Old Testament were written for the Jews. As Christians, we are not bound by them.

I have no desire to join your denomination of the Christian faith, as I do not align myself with cults.

Thank you for your time, everyone.
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First off, are you saying you do not go to any church? Define cult please. I just checked Dictionary.com. Guess what I found:

1. a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.

Umm this is EVERY religion in the world.

2. an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, especially as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.

Do you think George Washington was a great guy? Welcome to the cult.

3. the object of such devotion.

Great. Now George Washington himself is a cult. And apparently so is whatever god you think you worship.

4. a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.

Any religion, and I am pretty sure that also includes schools, quilting clubs, and the Boy Scouts of America

5. Sociology . a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols.

Any religion again


So, you are saying that you have discounted the entire OT. Why do you carry the extra 5 pounds in your Bible then? What are the 10 commandments? I wish I could just pick and choose what parts of the Bible were convenient to me and feel all warm and fluffy inside. Must be nice. Just curious, are you messican? You sure are good at picking cherries.


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Friends, I've been having a bit of an awkward problem. As you all know, I've made a few mistakes with my life, but since I accepted Jesus, followed all of the commandments in the Bible and became a True Christian™, I assumed that none of my previous deathstyle choices would matter anymore. For the most part, this HAS been the case, but there's one problem that just hasn't taken care of itself yet.

My tokens of virginity haven't spontaneously regenerated yet! As I'm sure you all know, this may cause some problems for me on my wedding night.

"If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her, And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid: Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate: And the damsel's father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her; And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city. And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him; And they shall amerce him in an hundred shekels of silver, and give them unto the father of the damsel, because he hath brought up an evil name upon a virgin of Israel: and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days. But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you." Deuteronomy 22:13-21

I just don't understand it! I know that God will restore to us the years that the locust hath eaten, so I just don't get why it hasn't happened to me yet.

"And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you. And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed."
Joel 2:25-26

I pray every day that my h*men will be re-made, and I check to see if it's grown back regularly (once in the morning, once in the evening and sometimes once or twice throughout the day), so I just don't see that the problem is. Could I be phrasing my prayers wrong? Maybe an hour of prayer a day isn't enough? Maybe God's trying to tell me He wants me to consider the surgical option?

Please help me figure this out, friends! I want to be a woman who can one day proudly say "I have a blood-stained cloth on file in Landover's archives!".

Wishing to be bathed more in the blood of Christ so I can bleed for Him,

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Yes, true. But there is a huge difference between accepting Jesus because you are afraid of dying and accepting him because you have truly repented. Those on death row do not get a chance to truly understand or witness God's saving grace.
Really? How do you know the hearts of men on death row?

Are you God? I'm guessing not.

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Wrong. You do not follow the laws you don't like.

Christians are merely perfected Jews. Just ask Ann Coulter. Or any Pastor, at any Bible-believing church.

In Matthew 5, Jesus has this to say:
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

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I do not REQUIRE scripture exclusively from the New Testament. Once again, I just do not follow the laws written for the Jews.
Why do you think, after what I've just shared with you above, that Jesus denied His Own LAW?

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John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Jesus is all we need to get into heaven. Not Jesus AND the saints, not Jesus AND the angles, and not Jesus AND the laws. No, just Jesus.
Nobody here said anything about saints or angels. We're not Catholics.

However, as Jesus Himself said (and I'll take His Word over YOURS):

20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.


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I take my faith VERY seriously, thank you very much. And I follow God's word. I just do not follow the laws that were written for the Jews, not for Christians.

I do not REQUIRE scripture exclusively from the New Testament. Once again, I just do not follow the laws written for the Jews.
Even if we were to accept your premise that the Old Testament is irrelevant to our Salvation™, you clearly do not accept the New Testament either. Roughly 80-90% of the Scripture I have provided for your edification is from the New Testament, yet you still refuse to heed or acknowledge the Word of God.

What you follow is not Christianity. You have created your own religion, very roughly based on a few cherry-picked teachings from a few books of the Bible. Your calling yourself a Christian gives a bad name to those of us who actually follow the Word.

Please describe for us what it means to you to be a Christian. I would ask for you to support your case with Scripture, but it is becoming more and more clear that you have given the Bible little more than a cursory glance.


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Default Re: Why haven't my tokens of virginity regenerated yet? - 04-23-2011, 03:16 AM

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God does not hate sex. If he did then why would he gives us it. Honestly let your body do as it wants, all we are is animals God doesn't hate the animals for having sex with no shame, therefor he does not hate us.

He hates fornication. Sex between a husband and wife is ordained of God, but fornication and adultery is forbidden.

Animals would be required to marry if they could comprehend it. I think you need to rethink your argument. He created us and gave us instruction. Refusal to follow it is sin. He gave animals instruction as well, and they are following it just fine.


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Default Re: Why haven't my tokens of virginity regenerated yet? - 04-23-2011, 05:46 AM

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Couldn't have said it better myself! You can truly tell sister Lycia is on fire for the lord, because you can see her Lord love burning brightly in her eyes!



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Default Re: Why haven't my tokens of virginity regenerated yet? - 04-23-2011, 05:55 AM

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Couldn't have said it better myself! You can truly tell sister Lycia is on fire for the lord, because you can see her Lord love burning brightly in her eyes!

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Default Re: Why haven't my tokens of virginity regenerated yet? - 04-23-2011, 06:10 AM

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You can say that again, Brother!! With me, the burning is constant!

Can I just say? I am impressed with your desire to be whole and pure again. If you were my daughter, I would be proud of your desire to return to Him in spite of the roads you have been down. You are an inspiration. I hope your tokens do regenerate. Any good True Christian man looking for a wife that is worth the effort should look to you first.


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