[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by GTO_Josh

So your saying the majority of things inside this forum is intended for LBC?
Then how might one become a member of the church? Must one seek to befriend a member in order to join the church? Or does LBC get there members to slowly but surely get sucked deeper into what you believe is the pure and true word of god, i do visit a Catholic Church of Which i was born into and am a member of but i also try to see other beliefs and religions i can associate how most others think and i have been having trouble on trying to understand how your church works im open to go to different churches and to try and follow christ to the best of my abbilities how are is your church diff. from other baptist churches?

1) Read the FAQs, all of them, there are a few things you need to do then....
2) Contact a Pastor, tell him of your intentions. He will take it from there.

[GTO_Josh]

please excuse the grammatical errors i don't commonly find myself a keyboard

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by GTO_Josh

please excuse the grammatical errors i don't commonly find myself a keyboard

Never a problem for those of good intentions.

[CorbinU.S.A.F]

Do you seriously have a life other than just sitting on your computer atempting to tell people whats wrong and right? You will not stop videos games like Oblivion from being manufactured. The best you can do is patheticaly rant about it. Im pretty sure the outside world really dosnt care about this pointless matter. Nor will the ever. While your at it, shouldnt you rant on the Sims too? That endorses fornicating with a flying green diamond.

[GTO_Josh]

Originally Posted by James Hutchins

1) Read the FAQs, all of them, there are a few things you need to do then....
2) Contact a Pastor, tell him of your intentions. He will take it from there.

i do appreciate your sincere attempts in assisting me though i must say that im going to bid you adieu. I Have further researched into your church and can firmly say i wish to have nothing to do with you. As for your sick twist on Christianity i do believe you need to seek repent in a church other than your own. YOUR church is what give Christians a BAD name. I hope the rest of the world can realize how disgusting you people are and shut your operation down, you are no better than the poligamists in texas. GOOD DAY!

As for 4chan trolls! 16000 POINTS HERE I COME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I also dont understand why on your home church website it has advertisements for jesus thongs, seriously how much more hypocritical can you get. You also fail at seeding trolls out!!!

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by GTO_Josh

i do appreciate your sincere attempts in assisting me though i must say that im going to bid you adieu. I Have further researched into your church and can firmly say i wish to have nothing to do with you. As for your sick twist on Christianity i do believe you need to seek repent in a church other than your own. YOUR church is what give Christians a BAD name. I hope the rest of the world can realize how disgusting you people are and shut your operation down, you are no better than the poligamists in texas. GOOD DAY!

As for 4chan trolls! 16000 POINTS HERE I COME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I also dont understand why on your home church website it has advertisements for jesus thongs, seriously how much more hypocritical can you get. You also fail at seeding trolls out!!!

You mean you were fooling us, Friend? You are not sincere? We like you, do not go, pal, let us Save you. I have never been so embarrassed in my life. not
You did better than your friends who we flat out ignore their childish rants. So out of the six of you, you were the better of them. Not much of an accomplishment. But really, do you think you were fooling anyone, except perhaps yourself? Tomorrow, at Vo-Tech summer school, you can tell all the other flunkies about it.

[daguss]

sir, i was raised christian, have a full christian family, and do accept the lord jesus christ as my savior, but i am offended, yet amused by the degree that you take offense to this game. as a gamer myself, i understand that it is imaginary. most everyone who plays this game, including myself, understand that it is MAKEBELIEVE. i do not believe i can cast fire from my hands, or get away with murder, or theft, or, for that matter, believe that doing things for demons will result in a reward other than being sent to Hell. I am certain that everyone else who plays feels the same.

The Columbine kids were the victim of bullying, not Doom. though i have not played the game, and have no desire to, i believe that your claim of it being a so called "Demon worshipping game" is ridiculous and Hilarious. Saying that that is the reason for their violence would be nothing short of condoning bullying in all of it's forms.

Now, one final message. Did God not give to his people the will to do as they pleased with the world? Surely as a God loving christian you know this. So, i say, leave everyone alone. Becuase it is their choice to sell the game, their choice to buy it, to play it, it is your choice to have an opinion against it, and your choice not to buy it. You, sir, are everything WRONG about christianity, as much as i hate to say. it is not your will to deny people thier enjoyment, whatever it maybe. THAT is for GOD to do. it is people like you who are the reason people hate christians.

[daguss]

Originally Posted by CorbinU.S.A.F

Do you seriously have a life other than just sitting on your computer atempting to tell people whats wrong and right? You will not stop videos games like Oblivion from being manufactured. The best you can do is patheticaly rant about it. Im pretty sure the outside world really dosnt care about this pointless matter. Nor will the ever. While your at it, shouldnt you rant on the Sims too? That endorses fornicating with a flying green diamond.

Wow. i wholeheartedly agree. Arne't there other things more worth ranting about? like the war? Terrorism? instead you rant about people's freedom to do what they want. isn't that unamerican? or are you Communist? (to the one who posted the topic in the first place.)

[James Hutchins]

How old are you, 12?

God gave man free will. He gave him the ability to repent his sins and follow the path of God or be a sinner like you.

[daguss]

please tell me sir, in what do i sin? i have never commited any crimes, i follow all of God's comandments and i have been saved by Jesus Christ. as i said, i do not believe i can do any of the things the good pastor has said people do if they play the game. am i a sinner just because i play thegame? how narrow minded. i live my life having an open mind, yet staying true to my christian beliefs. it is not your place to remove these games, or to force others to do so. that is taking advantage of the word of god, and as i said before, people like you are what gives christianity a bad name. as for your flaming smily, there, (no pun intended) we will see who is right, when i'm sitting in heaven, laughing at you, burning in hell.

[daguss]

so please, please, tell me where i have sinned, using words from the scripture, if you don't mind, so that i may better my ways.

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by daguss

please tell me sir, in what do i sin? i have never commited any crimes, i follow all of God's comandments and i have been saved by Jesus Christ. as i said, i do not believe i can do any of the things the good pastor has said people do if they play the game. am i a sinner just because i play thegame? how narrow minded. i live my life having an open mind, yet staying true to my christian beliefs. it is not your place to remove these games, or to force others to do so. that is taking advantage of the word of god, and as i said before, people like you are what gives christianity a bad name. as for your flaming smily, there, (no pun intended) we will see who is right, when i'm sitting in heaven, laughing at you, burning in hell.

You previously stated:

Originally Posted by daguss

sir, i was raised christian, have a full christian family, and do accept the lord jesus christ as my savior,......................... Becuase it is their choice to sell the game, their choice to buy it, to play it, it is your choice to have an opinion against it, and your choice not to buy it. You, sir, are everything WRONG about christianity, as much as i hate to say. it is not your will to deny people thier enjoyment, whatever it maybe. THAT is for GOD to do. it is people like you who are the reason people hate christians.

You know nothing about me yet you judge me? You admit following free will no matter where it takes you is not fraught with sin? You claim to be a Christian but by your own statements, cannot be. Hypocrite!

[daguss]

Originally Posted by GTO_Josh

i do appreciate your sincere attempts in assisting me though i must say that im going to bid you adieu. I Have further researched into your church and can firmly say i wish to have nothing to do with you. As for your sick twist on Christianity i do believe you need to seek repent in a church other than your own. YOUR church is what give Christians a BAD name. I hope the rest of the world can realize how disgusting you people are and shut your operation down, you are no better than the poligamists in texas. GOOD DAY!

As for 4chan trolls! 16000 POINTS HERE I COME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I also dont understand why on your home church website it has advertisements for jesus thongs, seriously how much more hypocritical can you get. You also fail at seeding trolls out!!!

WOW!! that's good...

[daguss]

Originally Posted by James Hutchins

You previously stated:


You know nothing about me yet you judge me? You admit following free will no matter where it takes you is not fraught with sin? You claim to be a Christian but by your own statements, cannot be. Hypocrite!

sir, i do follow free will. however, i have my lines, set by the word of God, that i will not cross. i may not agree with what people do with their own free will, but i'm not about to take it from those who have the right to do so, as declared in the AMERICAN constitution. you all, however, seem, not only happy to do so, yet, ready as well. Am i wrong? Foregive me, if i seem to have misjudged you. i was merely going by what the posts of this forum say. however, you failed to offer scritpure providing you with a sufficient arguement as to why my playing this so called "Satan's Game" is a sin and why i will go to hell for it.

because of this, i will hereby dismiss it out of my mind as not only having nothing to do with chritianity, but being founded on nothing else besides that which you fail understand and accept as AMERICAN freedom. forgive me, if i seemed to Troll. i felt i was entitled to my opinion, and i will cease further comments on this website. but please, before you ignore me, answer my question. what is really wrong with free wil?

[James Hutchins]

Excuse me for saying this, by what a load of drivel!

Next time, re-read the entire thread. I did not post an scripture because all the scripture needed has already been posted, in some cases, muliple times by Bible scholars.

Are you on drugs or something? You seem like a wacked out zealot. Not meaning to be harsh, but that is how you come acreoss. I am merely being honest.



But to answer you final question:
There is nothing wrong with free will, assuming it is done within the guidlines of the KJV 1611 Bible and secular law.

[daguss]

Originally Posted by James Hutchins

Excuse me for saying this, by what a load of drivel!

Next time, re-read the entire thread. I did not post an scripture because all the scripture needed has already been posted, in some cases, muliple times by Bible scholars.

Are you on drugs or something? You seem like a wacked out zealot. Not meaning to be harsh, but that is how you come acreoss. I am merely being honest.

oh, don't worry. that isn't too harsh. i might be offended if i was on drugs. however, this time you are the hypocrite. "wacked out zealot"? have you read the posts on this forum? i'm sorry. i said i would stop. *sighs loudly.* just look at it from other points of view? everyone? understanding is not a sin. before you all post this kind of stuff, think about how it looks, really think about it. i don't fualt you for bieng christians. i have nothing against that. i do have a problem with man using religion as a means of control.

[James Hutchins]

I nor do any other True Christians™, use 'religion as a means of control'. I follow the KJV Bible and obey secular law. I follow them both to the letter with no deviation. If deviation were allowed, the Bible and secular law would state something like "Follow this rule, if you want", which would make the rule or law ridiculous. If the speed limit is 65, it means you cannot exceed 65. It does not mean the speed limit is 65 unless there are no cops around, then you can go as fast as you want. Society has rules intended to keep man from acting like animals.

[Desolace]

I don't understand why you are so against this. Nothing is going to happen, the separation between the church and government has been around for ages. No matter what you do, people will still play these games. No it really doesn't turn you into a Satanic Worshiper... Only a fool would believe something as demons rewarding you in a game and it would directly associate with real life. Games are just games. I still have yet to understand why people like you are against gays. It's a prefernce they have, just like you supporting a religion, and liking it.

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by Desolace

I don't understand why you are so against this. Nothing is going to happen, the separation between the church and government has been around for ages. No matter what you do, people will still play these games. No it really doesn't turn you into a Satanic Worshiper... Only a fool would believe something as demons rewarding you in a game and it would directly associate with real life. Games are just games. I still have yet to understand why people like you are against gays. It's a prefernce they have, just like you supporting a religion, and liking it.

Just like chances are, no matter how hard we try, there will still be sinners in the world. We Save who we can and toss the rest to feed Satan's lust. You stupid kids do not realize you are slowly being drawn in to sin. Satan does it to little mindless children wiht video games, and as a person ages, he adds alcohol, drugs and sex. Unless you repent and follow His word, you are going to burn in hell for all eternity. Let me explain.
You're dead. Instantly your soul begin falling towards the black abyss above Hell. The falling seems eternal as you gather speed and the heat begins to grow. Then you notice a red dot below you growing larger by the second, this is the Lake in the center of Hell. It is the brightest point in Hell therefore it is visible for a great distance. Keep in mind that the farther you fall, the further from Christ you are.
As you gain speed and the flames become apparent you may wonder how you can stop this from happening. The answer is simple. It's too late and you can't, you're doomed. Your soul is damned and it WILL happen. The temperature is now approaching the unbearable limit as your flesh begins to smoulder and ignite and you continue to build speed as you plummet toward the now visible boiling Lake of Fire. You can almost make out individual souls thrashing in the magma with your flaming eyesockets. Soon you will join them, your terror mounts as your screams become gargled with the stench of Hells evil smell. The heat becomes excruciating as you notice your skin peeling away and your bones becoming visible and black. Flaming and screaming in anguish, you splashdown into the acidic brimstone of Satans Lake at around 250 MPH. You are instantly vaporized and reformed as a tormented soul writhing in absolute terror in the deafening depths of the Lake that Burns Eternal. The pain is beyond comprehension as you gnash your teeth so hard they shatter in your mouth. Satan periodically plucks you from the flames to savagely rape repeatedly and casually tosses you to his infernal minions to rip apart and rape at will, only to be reformed and have this scenario repeated...over and over and over, forever.
Is it still funny mocking our mission to Save your soul? We want you to enjoy Heaven and eternal praise and worship at the feet of our Saviour the Lord Jesus Christ.
Unless you are Saved™ by Jesus Christ and His Holy website and favorite church, Landover Baptist, there is no other way to avoid this.

[Septim]

Actually, first of all... The elves are beings of nature, whom where created by magic, they are not demonic at all, don't judge a book by it's cover.

Secondly, that image is not a portal to hell, it's a portal to the realms of oblivion, wich is not like hell at all. It does represent evil, suffering and damnation, but it is a planet, and the people there are aliens rather than demons, if you'd actually read the lore about the game then you'd know this.

Oblivion, wich you call hell is ruled by several rules, thus connecting it to demons within hinduism and not christianity, that means that this is not even your concearn.

You should really have done some research rather than just pretending you know the game, and it is nothing like Dungeons and Dragons, because it's two utterly different storylines, game engines and systems.

And in the game you take up as a role of a character meant to banish these evil beings from the face of Cyrodill and save the people from the evil Mehrunes Dagon, wich is not the devil, he is a six-armed demonic giant. Thus bringing us back to Hinduism again, and the nine divines, wich is the gods that the imperials, reguards, nords, elves and kajiit belive in is clearly more related to buddism than christianity.

...I have played this game for over five years, and like most people who play it, it is far from a sin... Or do you see anywhere in the bible where it says "Thau shalt not be playith thy games of thy elder scrolls: Oblivion".

And if you took a look at the previous games in the series, you'd see that most of these demonic relevants are taken out of hinduism... So right now you're representing the Hindu.


Feel free to remove this post, everyone hate all those pesky facts that gets in the way of a good ranting...