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Default Re: Unity - The Fast Track To Hell - 03-17-2008, 09:54 PM

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I don't claim to be better, just more compassionate and open to others who have different views. I'm not a meditator (though many of my parishioners are), but I can assure you I spend most of my life contemplating God.
Perhaps you would contemplate this then:
M'r:7:20: And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
M'r:7:21: For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
M'r:7:22: Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
M'r:7:23: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.
M'r:7:24: And from thence he arose, and went into the borders of Tyre and Sidon, and entered into an house, and would have no man know it: but he could not be hid.

Verse 24 shows us that even Christ did not wish his deeds to be lauded like some cheap TV commercial.

StarkRavingMad, why just not come out with it and say, "I'm simply better than everyone else. I believe the bits of the Bible that suit me and show how holy I am. I reject the Word Of God if it suits me and my pride."

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Default Re: Unity - The Fast Track To Hell - 03-17-2008, 10:03 PM

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StarkRavingMad, why just not come out with it and say, "I'm simply better than everyone else. I believe the bits of the Bible that suit me and show how holy I am. I reject the Word Of God if it suits me and my pride."
For starters, because I don't believe that I'm better than anyone else, though I have to admit that sometimes my experiences here in the Landover Forums test my faith in that proposition. I do, however, bring unique experiences to any spiritual discussion, just as you do.

There are truths that are not in the Bible, not in scriptures from other religions, and truths not in science textbooks. For example, last week I astrally projected with some of my parishioners. Once you've done that, trust me, you won't see the world, or all of creation for that matter, in the same light.


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Default Re: Unity - The Fast Track To Hell - 03-17-2008, 10:47 PM

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For example, last week I astrally projected with some of my parishioners. Once you've done that, trust me, you won't see the world, or all of creation for that matter, in the same light.
StarKingGrad - I'm not sure where to begin here. Your confession of lies and deception quite takes my breath away.

I would usually keep my private life out of this. The experience of so called "Astral Projection" is identical to that of hyperventilation. Both I and a colleague, quite separately, have both experience looking down on oneself, both of us had hyperventilated.

Abusing your body and calling it a revelation is blasphemous.

If you want to fool yourself and the poor, uneducated and gullible in your care in order to aggrandize your false position and set yourself up as a godhead - it is a matter between you and whatever god you worship and that god is surely not the Lord of Hosts.

This huckster trick is not only contrary to the Word of The Lord but is, by any set of civilized standards, beneath contempt.

2Ch:33:6: And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.

I have no hope for your worthless soul. Before you are called to Damnation the best you can do is repent and see the world that God has given you in all its glory and not look amongst the iniquities for revelations.





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Default Re: Unity - The Fast Track To Hell - 03-21-2008, 03:21 AM

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Kwanzaa... Isn't this what that Condolleezzzaa practiced, that terrible neegroe "woman" who put a hoodoo on Godly President Bush to bewitch him into sending our Troops to Iraq - to bring her back some hummus, or something?
No, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and their Haliburton cronies put the hoodoo on America. If we'd gone to war over hummus, those bozos would probably still be scouring Iraq trying to find it.

I don't know what to make of Dr. Rice. She and Gen. Powell both could have stopped the Iraq insanity by resigning rather than going along with the neocons, and they'll have to live with that on their consciences. I don't cut them any special slack because they are African-American, but I'll admit it puts some tarnish on their triumphs.

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Your confession of lies and deception quite takes my breath away...The experience of so called "Astral Projection" is identical to that of hyperventilation.
Interesting, it's like I stole your breath--I took too many, and you took too few. We must share a cosmic connection (well, actually, everybody does).

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Abusing your body and calling it a revelation is blasphemous.
Revelation requires a revealer, and I have no evidence that there was any consciousness behind my experience other than my own.

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whatever god you worship... that god is surely not the Lord of Hosts.
That is true. I believe in angels (I have seen them, fleetingly, on several occasions, and so have many of my congregants), but I don't think that God has a whole army of them. God doesn't need an army.

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This huckster trick is not only contrary to the Word of The Lord but is, by any set of civilized standards, beneath contempt.
Why, Mr. Bathfire, there is hope for you after all. You believe that there are civilized standards that are not found in the Word of the Lord. Congratulations on making this important spiritual breakthrough.

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and used enchantments
So now you're saying I used magic to induce hyperventilation? I don't need magic for that.

I think I heard a request for some Bible. Now, I'm pretty sure that when there's a True Christian in trouble, you guys close ranks around him/her (one of the things I admire about Landover is the way you stick together). So, why don't tell me why you don't favor more social justice and wealth redistribution programs for the poor in the US, as Leviticus 19 requires?

Leviticus 19:33-34: ...if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him. But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.


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Default Re: Unity - The Fast Track To Hell - 03-21-2008, 03:49 AM

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I think I heard a request for some Bible. Now, I'm pretty sure that when there's a True Christian in trouble, you guys close ranks around him/her (one of the things I admire about Landover is the way you stick together). So, why don't tell me why you don't favor more social justice and wealth redistribution programs for the poor in the US, as Leviticus 19 requires?
We have wealth distribution programs, it's just that the wealth keeps getting distributed to the rich and not to the needy.


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Default Re: Unity - The Fast Track To Hell - 03-24-2008, 03:06 AM

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I think I heard a request for some Bible. Now, I'm pretty sure that when there's a True Christian in trouble, you guys close ranks around him/her (one of the things I admire about Landover is the way you stick together). So, why don't tell me why you don't favor more social justice and wealth redistribution programs for the poor in the US, as Leviticus 19 requires?

Leviticus 19:33-34: ...if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him. But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
That has nothing to do with "wealth redistribution programs for the poor in the US". However, Lev. 19:9-10 does direct Godly people not to glean their fields after harvest, but allow the poor to do so. If you bothered to look around America, you'd find that in most agricultural areas, the fields are gleaned by volunteers from foodbanks.


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Default Re: Unity - The Fast Track To Hell - 04-04-2008, 09:09 PM

Stop the presses! It seems that a Unity "minister" has discovered that, apart from celebrating Jesus, people actually give gifts to each other on Christmas. It's amazing that nobody ever thought to turn that idea into a sermon before.



Around 1:57, we get into the real heavy comedy:

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If I know that if I gave Mary such a diamond she would be very spiritual then.

[cackling laughter from the crowd]

She would be sitting in the service and be looking at her diamond and saying, "It's a miracle!"

[even more raucus laughter]
Damn, those Unity preachers are amusing. And yes, there's more:

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I came home with a 22 pound Turkey. It was too good a deal to pass up.
Pure comedic gold! No wonder he got a laugh with this joke. Both times he told it.

The topper is the way this sermon is signed for the deaf. Now, I have no problem with signing for the deaf in general, but doing it with this sermon has to got to count as cruelty toward the handicapped. I take back all of the bad things I've said about Unity. The truth is far, far worse than anything that I could possibly express in words.



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