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Exclamation The Nazis were NOT Christian, and True Christians™ are not Nazis - 10-04-2010, 06:46 AM

"Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you." Matthew 5:11-12

Though we are blessed for the persecution, it is truly horrifying to be called Nazis for our adherence to the Bible. Horrifying, and WRONG. Since many heathens, atheists, and false Christians regularly bandy about this truly inappropriate (both in taste and accuracy) insult, I have taken the time to write this to inform people exactly what the differences between Nazis and True Christians ™ are (guess what, there's a lot of them!). We will take a look at the religious leanings and views of top Nazi leaders, and then take a look at two religious movements that emerged out of Nazism.

The Religious Views of the Top Officials in the Nazi Party

It is a common misconception that the leaders of the Nazi party were Christian. Though both Hitler and Goebbels were nominally Cathlick, even they had lapsed in their beliefs and were notable for their irreligious views on life. A few notable party members, like Rudolf Hess and Heinrich Himmler, were interested in mysticism and occult groups, like Anthroposophy. In fact Himmler, being the leader of the SS, incorporated many strange occult ideas and practices in that organization. Finally, Martin Bormann, secretary to the Nazi party in the later years of the war, came out publicly with this quote:

"When we [National Socialists] speak of belief in God, we do not mean, like the naive Christians and their spiritual exploiters, a man-like being sitting around somewhere in the universe. The force governed by natural law by which all these countless planets move in the universe, we call omnipotence or God. The assertion that this universal force can trouble itself about the destiny of each individual being, every smallest earthly bacillus, can be influenced by so-called prayers or other surprising things, depends upon a requisite dose of naivety or else upon shameless professional self-interest."

So, as we can see, the various leaders of the Nazi party were not particularly Christian people. In fact, they usually saw it as a competitor and totally irreconcilable with their beliefs. However, since Germany did have a substantial amount of Christians in it, the Nazis did see a use in subverting Christianity for their own ends.

Positive "Christianity"



The symbol of Positive Christianity, an old pagan symbol chosen for its visual similarities to the cross and a swastika.

"If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?" Psalm 11:3

As I said earlier, the Nazis did see in Christianity a useful tool in controlling their populace, and created a new form of Christianity known as "Positive Christianity" to pervert the religious leanings of their citizens. At it heart, Positive Christianity was an amalgamation of an old heresy known as Marcionism and Germanic pagan symbolism. Marcionism, founded by Marcion of Rome around 144 AD, is the belief that the God of the Old Testament is a separate, lower deity than the God of the New Testament. Marcion preached that the Old Testament God was a demiurge, and that the Old Testament should be completely abandoned.

Of course, there were some Nazis who hated Christianity so much that they couldn't even accept it in a watered-down, heretical version.

The German Faith Movement

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me" Exodus 20:3

The German Faith Movement was started by Jakob Wilhelm Hauer during the Third Reich due to his intense hatred of Christianity. It completely rejected the Bible and used a combination of secular German literature and Hindoo texts such as the Bhagavad Gita as its scripture. It managed to obtain rights of civil tolerance from Rudolf Hess (who I already explained was into occultism), and was mainly focused on a pagan sun deity, the rejection of any ethics associated with Christianity, and Hitler's personality cult.

So What Does all This Mean?

True Christians™ believe that Jesus Christ was divine, the KJV 1611 Bible (Both the Old AND New Testaments) are the only scripture that is the word of God, and that mystics and occultists go to Hell for all of eternity.

So the next time you are going to call a True Christian™ a Nazi because of their beliefs, think back to this and realize just how very wrong that is!


"Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you. For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him." Matthew 21:31-32

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Default Re: The Nazis were NOT Christian, and True Christians™ are not Na - 10-04-2010, 09:39 AM

Miss Lycia,

Hitler was no True Christian. His psychotic beliefs wandered between devotion to Catholicism and his love of the writings of Martin Luther.

I anything, Hitler also propped himself up as a god which as we know is a complete flouting of the most important commandment God put forth. He was just as much a Christian as Pol Pot or Stalin was.

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Smile Re: The Nazis were NOT Christian, and True Christians™ are not Na - 10-04-2010, 09:52 AM

Thank you for agreeing with me Mrs. Dewitt.

I find it very troubling when people refer to a literal interpretation of the Bible as Nazism, when nothing could be further from the truth!

Hitler and his Nazi cronies were heretics, pagans, occultists, scripture-twisters, sociopaths, psychopaths, murderers and generally abominable human beings, and that is why I hate to see people even insinuate a True Christian is a Nazi.


"Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you. For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him." Matthew 21:31-32

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Default Re: The Nazis were NOT Christian, and True Christians™ are not Na - 10-04-2010, 09:55 AM

Miss Lycia,

I agree that Hitler was not a True Christian. He would spread lies and use anybody to spread his evil.

Revelation 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

Isaiah 47:12 Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, wherein thou hast laboured from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be thou mayest prevail.

Acts 13:10 And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?

Hitler made himself a god for the German people to follow.

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4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;


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Default Re: The Nazis were NOT Christian, and True Christians™ are not Na - 10-04-2010, 10:54 AM

Exactly! Thank you for clarifying this.

I absolutely loathe it when people call us Nazis. We are anything but that. The Nazis believed in pure racial genocide, whereas we believe those of the lesser races can change and become pure, just look at our successful Ex-Negro ministry. It is very unChristian to put to death inferior people because of their skin color, since Jesus can accept everybody, no matter what handicaps they are born with as long as they repent (Gal. 3:28).

The Nazis were also socialist left-wing proto-Obamunists in that they wanted to create a nanny state where the government creates freeways and universal health care! Excuse me? We'll have nothing of that!

Finally, the Nazis were all about environmentalism and animal welfare. You almost might think they were Jews considering how hard they tried to stomp out a God-given American right like smoking. And they were big on conserving natural habitats, as well as giving animals "rights". Before PETA, there was Nazi Germany. Look it up.

It sickens me that people even try to associate us with those liberal, socialist hippies.



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Default Re: The Nazis were NOT Christian, and True Christians™ are not Na - 10-10-2010, 01:55 PM

I think that some people overemphasize Hitler's ungodliness. He clearly was no True Christian™, but he was a Cathlick, and I believe Catholicism was the cause of his evil, just as with Stalin, who was a Cathlick priest before he became the dark Leader of C-word.
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I think that some people overemphasize Hitler's ungodliness. He clearly was no True Christian™, but he was a Cathlick, and I believe Catholicism was the cause of his evil, just as with Stalin, who was a Cathlick priest before he became the dark Leader of C-word.
I actually agree with this, by saying that Hitler was pure evil and Satan incarnate, people seem to forget that given similar circumstances another leader could come forward the same way. Obama is another who rode to power on the promise of change, and look what he's doing to the country!

As for people calling us Nazi's, well that's Godwins law for you. If you can't think of a decent reply to someone, you insult them and call them Nazi's.



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Default Re: The Nazis were NOT Christian, and True Christians™ are not Na - 10-11-2010, 05:57 AM

I think we can all be glad that one patriotic American ensured that JFK, that dreadful Catholic, could not subdue America under his reign of socialist terror.
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Default Re: The Nazis were NOT Christian, and True Christians™ are not Na - 10-11-2010, 10:48 PM

my husband told me that hitler was a myth and jews never really died and that jews probably dont exist either. are you telling me to not listen to my husband and what he says is wrong?
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