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Default Re: Dyslexia: An Excuse For Being Lazy! - 11-09-2010, 02:02 AM

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Dislexia is a real problem, not an excuse for being lazy, And if you think about it, everybody has there days at being dislexic. I struggled with it in school [along with ADHD] and with my D and B's it's a real fustrating problem, not an excue for being lazy
If everyone suffers from it, then it isn't a special disease, now is it. Oh and stupidity is not caused by dislexia or ADHD. My oldest son would be put on Ritlan if he went to public school but that's because they want to drug everyone into zombies.

No, a good strapping and a cuff upside the head seems to work better than any drug I've heard of. Oh and some good old fashioned exercise to burn off some energy.


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Default Re: Dyslexia: An Excuse For Being Lazy! - 11-09-2010, 02:09 AM

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Dislexia is a real problem, not an excuse for being lazy, And if you think about it, everybody has there days at being dislexic. I struggled with it in school [along with ADHD] and with my D and B's it's a real fustrating problem, not an excue for being lazy
So you make up a 4 letter acronym to blame for low grades instead of admitting you are too lazy to study?


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Default Re: Dyslexia: An Excuse For Being Lazy! - 11-09-2010, 02:12 AM

if you pay attention to your daily activitys, I'm sure you'll notice a few miner things you switch around. As for the medicine, I was on Ritilin when I was younger, I was not a zombie, I was still carefree and well spirited as ever
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Default Re: Dyslexia: An Excuse For Being Lazy! - 11-09-2010, 02:17 AM

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if you pay attention to your daily activitys, I'm sure you'll notice a few miner things you switch around. As for the medicine, I was on Ritilin when I was younger, I was not a zombie, I was still carefree and well spirited as ever
Ritalin (methylphenidate) is speed, amphetamines, you know basically legalized meth.
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The signs did not refer to traffic violations.


By now most Americans are aware of a form of speed called methamphetamine, and most are also aware that people strung out on speed are a physical and psychological mess.


What all too many people do not realize, however, is that meth is not the only--or even the most readily available--form of speed.


That would be Ritalin.


That's right--Ritalin. The drug little Tommy takes for his ADD, so that he can control his impulsive behavior and focus on his studies in school.


Ritalin (methylphenidate) is a form of speed. Chemically, it is virtually identical to Dexedrine, another drug often prescribed for ADD, and its psychological and physiological effects are also virtually identical.
But no, your right, you were a happy little zombie who sat in class and payed attention.

And as he pointed out, if everyone suffers from it, how is it a disease or disorder?


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Default Re: Dyslexia: An Excuse For Being Lazy! - 11-09-2010, 02:22 AM

I say this because not everyone has a lot of...what's the word I'm thinking of...well, let's just say, it's not a daily thing for EVERYONE. People who have dylexia it can be a daily thing, weekly thing, anything. But for normal people, it's more of a rare type of thing. therefore, it's still a disorder
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Default Re: Dyslexia: An Excuse For Being Lazy! - 11-09-2010, 02:31 AM

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I say this because not everyone has a lot of...what's the word I'm thinking of...well, let's just say, it's not a daily thing for EVERYONE. People who have dylexia it can be a daily thing, weekly thing, anything. But for normal people, it's more of a rare type of thing. therefore, it's still a disorder
Hmm.... and yet you said...

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if you pay attention to your daily activitys, I'm sure you'll notice a few miner things you switch around. As for the medicine, I was on Ritilin when I was younger, I was not a zombie, I was still carefree and well spirited as ever
So which is it? Or were you just too lazy to pay attention in school and are therefore now stupid.


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Default Re: Dyslexia: An Excuse For Being Lazy! - 11-09-2010, 02:35 AM

I had a hard time paying attention in school [absent seizures and ADHD] and I do admit I am not the smartest, and have a tendency to do that but the 2nd one is one that I ment to say
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Default Re: Dyslexia: An Excuse For Being Lazy! - 01-08-2011, 02:16 PM

there are tests for dyslexia you know you cant just blame everything on dyslexia most dyslexics never get diagnosed it being such a mild form as to go unnoticed but it is still a problem
both me and my father are dyslexic my father did not find out he was dyslexic until after i was diagnosed at the age of 7 i did not know about dyslexia until i was diagnosed
my father is now clinically depressed because of being called stupid by everyone including his parents during school and it wasnt untill around the time he started universityhe realised that he wasn't actually stupid just a slow learner who needed to put in a lot more effort to learn(the rod is never the only option)
i myself have been working hard at school and have kept up with my classmates by doing much more work i have never been an a grade student but i keep up

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there are tests for dyslexia you know you cant just blame everything on dyslexia most dyslexics never get diagnosed it being such a mild form as to go unnoticed
That's just more proof that it's made-up. It is not a real disease. You don't see anyone writing "most people with tuberculosis never get diagnosed", do you?
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both me and my father are dyslexic my father did not find out he was dyslexic until after i was diagnosed at the age of 7 i did not know about dyslexia until i was diagnosed
7-year-old child doesn't know something? Wow, stop the presses. If your father had an actual problem, he would have noticed before then.
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my father is now clinically depressed
I thought you said he was dyslexic, not depressed? Get your story straight.
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because of being called stupid by everyone including his parents during school and it wasnt untill around the time he started universityhe realised that he wasn't actually stupid just a slow learner who needed to put in a lot more effort to learn
Try telling that to God: "I'm not actually wicked, I'm just a slow righteous person who needs to put in a lot more effort to not sin. Please don't send me to Hell." See how far that gets you.


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...........my father is now clinically depressed because of being called stupid by everyone including his parents during school and it wasnt untill around the time he started universityhe realised that he wasn't actually stupid just a slow learner who needed to put in a lot more effort to learn(the rod is never the only option)
Ever consider that your dad really is just a moron? By 'diagnosing' him, all you are doing is reinforcing the point that he is defective. Very nice of you.

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i myself have been working hard at school and have kept up with my classmates by doing much more work i have never been an a grade student but i keep up

please do some research before discriminating
Well, it is about time you buckled down and got with the program. Next year, when you go to Junior High School, you will be among new people, study hard and try not to be a dunce.

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That's just more proof that it's made-up. It is not a real disease. You don't see anyone writing "most people with tuberculosis never get diagnosed", do you?
its not a "disease"its a condition when did i call it a disease?

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7-year-old child doesn't know something? Wow, stop the presses. If your father had an actual problem, he would have noticed before then.
please stop insulting me, my point is that i had no idea about dyslexia so how could i be using it as an excuse for laziness?

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I thought you said he was dyslexic, not depressed? Get your story straight.
i clearly said that he is depressed because he was called names as a direct result of his dyslexia

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Try telling that to God: "I'm not actually wicked, I'm just a slow righteous person who needs to put in a lot more effort to not sin. Please don't send me to Hell." See how far that gets you.
how about i tell him that he gave me a condition at birth that constricts my learning abilities
and how is not learning a sin?
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Ever consider that your dad really is just a moron? By 'diagnosing' him, all you are doing is reinforcing the point that he is defective. Very nice of you.
i said he went to university right? dose that imply he is a "mormon"? just to let you know he got a university pass at psychology and an additional in artificial intelligence and was a university lecturer for several years
and he took the test himself i had no part in the procedure

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its not a "disease"its a condition when did i call it a disease?
So you admit that it's not a real problem. Jesus wins again!
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please stop insulting me, my point is that i had no idea about dyslexia so how could i be using it as an excuse for laziness?
Friend, I have no doubt that you are genuinely cursed and/or demon possessed.
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i clearly said that he is depressed because he was called names as a direct result of his dyslexia
How do you know it was that way around? Maybe he's just so depressed that he can't see any point in spelling stuff correctly.
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He already knows.
2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

I suspect this "dyslexia" may count as a sub-category of strong delusion.
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Default Re: Dyslexia: An Excuse For Being Lazy! - 01-08-2011, 10:01 PM

I'm sorry I know that I'm just a lowly female here, but I was deemed to have Dyslexia as a young girl and yet, I never thought of myself as lazy in any way, I graduated with honors from high school, worked a job while attending school and before I married was in management training. Not to mention the household chores I had to do as well. Laziness was not a part of my life at any time. Although, I do dispute the claim that I was Dyslexic


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Default Re: Dyslexia: An Excuse For Being Lazy! - 01-08-2011, 10:04 PM

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where did i say that? i neither said nor implied any such thing

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i'm sorry i genuinely thought that this thread was discussing whether or not dyslexics a genuine or lazy
and i don't believe i am possessed/cursed why would i be cursed from birth? and how could i accept the devil or a demon at birth?

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How do you know it was that way around? Maybe he's just so depressed that he can't see any point in spelling stuff correctly.
he was dyslexic long before he became depressed

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Default Re: Dyslexia: An Excuse For Being Lazy! - 01-08-2011, 10:24 PM

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What about the doctors who confirmed that children considered dyslexic actually have such an illness?

Dyslexia, ADHD and all it's forms are highly misdignosed (SP?) Many time a child goes for years and years being doped up just so his/her parents aren't ashamed to be seen in public with their child. Lisa Marie Presley (whore that she is) said it best in her song To whom it may concern. "How can you drug the children, if you can't stop the symptoms."


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Default Re: Dyslexia: An Excuse For Being Lazy! - 01-09-2011, 04:42 AM

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there are tests for dyslexia you know you cant just blame everything on dyslexia most dyslexics never get diagnosed it being such a mild form as to go unnoticed but it is still a problem
both me and my father are dyslexic my father did not find out he was dyslexic until after i was diagnosed at the age of 7 i did not know about dyslexia until i was diagnosed
my father is now clinically depressed because of being called stupid by everyone including his parents during school and it wasnt untill around the time he started universityhe realised that he wasn't actually stupid just a slow learner who needed to put in a lot more effort to learn(the rod is never the only option)
i myself have been working hard at school and have kept up with my classmates by doing much more work i have never been an a grade student but i keep up

please do some research before discriminating
Oh, I don't know. If his parents had put a rod to his backside he would have put in the extra effort wouldn't he of.

You do realize that the part I highlighted up there is basically proof that dyslexics are lazy and not putting in the effort. I find it amazing that no children had this "disorder" when I was growing up. But then again we got fresh air, exercise, and a good beating when we needed it.

Sure some kids have to put in more effort than others, but that doesn't mean they're sick.


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I'm sorry I know that I'm just a lowly female here, but I was deemed to have Dyslexia as a young girl and yet, I never thought of myself as lazy in any way, I graduated with honors from high school, worked a job while attending school and before I married was in management training. Not to mention the household chores I had to do as well. Laziness was not a part of my life at any time. Although, I do dispute the claim that I was Dyslexic
This is my point. People try to say our oldest has ADHD, that's why I yanked him out of public school in Canada. They seem convinced that every kid in class needed some sort of disorder attached to him and pills stuffed down their throats. They even wanted him to repeat Kindergarten, can you believe that!? Yet with home schooling he is excelling. No pills, no liebral zombie mind control, just good old fashioned teaching and a smack upside the head when he needs it.


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Oh, I don't know. If his parents had put a rod to his backside he would have put in the extra effort wouldn't he of.

You do realize that the part I highlighted up there is basically proof that dyslexics are lazy and not putting in the effort. I find it amazing that no children had this "disorder" when I was growing up. But then again we got fresh air, exercise, and a good beating when we needed it.

Sure some kids have to put in more effort than others, but that doesn't mean they're sick.




This is my point. People try to say our oldest has ADHD, that's why I yanked him out of public school in Canada. They seem convinced that every kid in class needed some sort of disorder attached to him and pills stuffed down their throats. They even wanted him to repeat Kindergarten, can you believe that!? Yet with home schooling he is excelling. No pills, no liebral zombie mind control, just good old fashioned teaching and a smack upside the head when he needs it.
We had the same problem with our oldest girl. The liebrul school was making excuses for her. They said she was working above her ability. To make a long story short, a razor strap across her bare buttocks and several hours kneeling on rice in her prayer closest drove that dyslexia demon out of her.



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Default Re: Dyslexia: An Excuse For Being Lazy! - 01-11-2011, 12:51 PM

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where did i say that? i neither said nor implied any such thing
You said it's not a real disease! If it's not a real disease, what are you whining about?
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You were cursed from birth to punish your parents for something sinful they did.
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I thought you said he only became dyslexic after you did?
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i said he went to university right? dose that imply he is a "mormon"? just to let you know he got a university pass at psychology and an additional in artificial intelligence and was a university lecturer for several years
and he took the test himself i had no part in the procedure
I We really could care less if your dad wears magic underwear and is a mormon. The fact remains is he is defective and an abomination in Gods eyes and therefore, in all True Christians™ eyes.
Instead of working on artificial intelligence, he should of worked on his own and yours.
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