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Default Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand) - 04-11-2010, 03:44 AM

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If I write a book that says something and claim it is true simply because the book says so is considered circular reasoning.
Absolutely!! If you wrote a book titled "I'm a non-believing queer" we'd all believe it!!!
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Default Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand) - 04-11-2010, 04:14 AM

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Absolutely!! If you wrote a book titled "I'm a non-believing queer" we'd all believe it!!!
Woah, when did sexual orientation come into play?
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Default Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand) - 04-11-2010, 09:08 AM

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Woah, when did sexual orientation come into play?
Why you should stop being gay: Romans 1:26-27 "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."


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To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
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Default Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand) - 04-11-2010, 10:08 AM

Well Gee Golly Gumdrops, you phrased your post ever so simpletonianly for us mere Christians to understand and it's STILL too diffimacult!

Please rephrase your post using only monosyllabic words and only those found among the lowest common denominator of pedestrian vernacular?

Also, Mr. Arrogant Atheist, please use double negatives such as "I don't know nothing" and "ain't" instead of "isn't".

If you really want to express yourself eloquently in the Christian tongue, include farm references and analogies. After all, "you ain't quack like doggone chicken 'ol eggs YEEHAW!!" is SO much easier for us simple folk to understand, wouldn't you agree?

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Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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Default Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand) - 04-11-2010, 08:08 PM

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First of all, this is NOT a debate forum.
Then, it is not a forum at all.
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Default Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand) - 04-12-2010, 01:51 AM

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Well Gee Golly Gumdrops, you phrased your post ever so simpletonianly for us mere Christians to understand and it's STILL too diffimacult!

Please rephrase your post using only monosyllabic words and only those found among the lowest common denominator of pedestrian vernacular?

Also, Mr. Arrogant Atheist, please use double negatives such as "I don't know nothing" and "ain't" instead of "isn't".

If you really want to express yourself eloquently in the Christian tongue, include farm references and analogies. After all, "you ain't quack like doggone chicken 'ol eggs YEEHAW!!" is SO much easier for us simple folk to understand, wouldn't you agree?

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P.S. It's your choice to go to Hell or not. All we can do as True Christians™ is to encourage YOU to make the RIGHT choice. Don't blame God for your choices.
Never have I once blamed the God I believed in for the choices I made, I've said many times in this topic that I was the one who drifted away and learned new things.
Also, I'm sharing my perspective and comparing it with a Christian perspective to help myself become a Christian.A couple of you have helped me and wrote some responses that were interesting and I took consideration for them. I'm not here to bash or bombard Christians with big words(I'm not even using "big words") I'm just here in hopes to get myself straight.
Also, I see several of you have called me Atheists, I have not once said or hinted that I was Atheist.I do not claim to know how creation came about, so I do not have a set belief on God, Gods, or big bang theories.I only hope to become a Christian but my lack of faith stands in my way, I come here to help regain my faith through advice and knowledgeable opinions.
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Default Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand) - 04-12-2010, 02:39 AM

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Never have I once blamed the God I believed in for the choices I made, I've said many times in this topic that I was the one who drifted away and learned new things.
Also, I'm sharing my perspective and comparing it with a Christian perspective to help myself become a Christian.A couple of you have helped me and wrote some responses that were interesting and I took consideration for them. I'm not here to bash or bombard Christians with big words(I'm not even using "big words") I'm just here in hopes to get myself straight.
Also, I see several of you have called me Atheists, I have not once said or hinted that I was Atheist.I do not claim to know how creation came about, so I do not have a set belief on God, Gods, or big bang theories.I only hope to become a Christian but my lack of faith stands in my way, I come here to help regain my faith through advice and knowledgeable opinions.
I think God=Life took offence to you "very simple to understand" in your topic line. You have to understand that we are under constant attack by trolls so some people here can be rather defencive.

You can use big words here. We're all quite well spoken and most of us have a high reading comprehension.

As for it not being a debate forum, we're here to discuss and Worship God, not debate his existence. Not every forum is for debating subjects. Discussion is not the same as debate.


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Default Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand) - 04-12-2010, 06:26 PM

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Also, I'm sharing my perspective and comparing it with a Christian perspective to help myself become a Christian.
Why are you making this so complicated? Your perspective is completely irrelevant, as are you. All that matters is in the KJV1611 Holy Bible so please drop everything and start reading that now!

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Then please stop whining and start acting!

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Just read that KJV1611 Holy Bible! Your faith will grow automatically while you are reading it!

2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"


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I do not claim to know how creation came about, so I do not have a set belief on God, Gods, ... but my lack of faith stands in my way, ...
Seems like a pretty big hint. Do you mean that you're agnostic? An agnostic is really little more than an atheist who isn't sure about his beliefs.

Keep in mind, though, that you don't need us to become Christian. All you need is the KJV 1611 Bible and read it entirely. That's all you need for a complete and accurate understanding of what Christianity is all about.

Please feel free to ignore the "but.. but.. God is LOVE, no matter WHAT the Bible says!" surrender monkeys.


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Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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Default Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand) - 04-12-2010, 07:24 PM

Look at us as a crop, where the strong seed grows best and the chaff must be separated from the wheat come harvest time.


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Default Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand) - 04-12-2010, 10:53 PM

I think a mistake atheists often make about the concept of Hell is focusing on God sending sinners to Hell. They do not mention, of course, that each and every person in Hell chose to be there, by rejecting the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

It gets me really angry that again God gets the blame, while it is man that chooses Hellfire over His Loving Arms.


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Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
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Default Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand) - 04-18-2010, 03:24 PM

Adan and Eve, 1st ppl born in our world. The 1st ppl to disobey the Lord by eating the fruit of the tree. Why did he had to place a tree there? I think jesus test all of us. If the 1st ppl born are sinners, then i can see why we can easily sin.

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It's a question that a lot of Christians cannot answer without pulling out the silly "God's will" speech (which still makes Christianity seem like a horrible religion in this situation).
Why would an Omni-benevolent (All loving), Omniscient (all knowing) God create a person knowing they would go to hell.
A lot of people say it's to test the person, but if God KNEW you were going to hell why would it be loving for him to send you to hell?
If he is real, then I can't help but think he's the biggest a-hole in the world for creating 2/3 of this world that aren't his little cheerleaders and sending them to hell.
It's equivalent to worshiping a super hitler to me.
I must answer your questions with questions.

Where did you get the idea that God loves everybody? God makes it crystal clear in the Bible that He hates those who do not follow Him.

Who are the "lot of people" telling you that God sends people to Hell to test them? Hell is a one-way street; it's not a "test".

How can God be "the biggest a-hole in the world"? He created the universe and the world and people. He told the people, "If you follow all my 600+ commandments and love me unconditionally, I will let you come to Heaven after you die and serve me and praise me for all eternity. If you don't, then I'll burn you alive in a lake of fire forever and ever." I mean, it's laid out perfectly clear for all to see. Where's the problem?

What does Hitler have to do with God? Hitler was a Catholic, for crying out loud! He worshipped Mary!
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-If I replace my "why" with a "how" it turns the question into "How could God favor only 1/3 of the human population" which still shows a lot of similarity to my original question
I believe this is also answered above.


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Default Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand) - 04-19-2010, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sidoain View Post
Today, we have over 9000 obstacle to dodge in order to be saved.
My friend, that is ridiculous. God made it very easy: accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour, abstain from sin and follow the Bible literally, and you go to Heaven. I can't find your 9000 obstacles in there.


Sweet Lord Jesus,
I want to pray for those who persecute me, my Lord.
Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
Praised be Your Glorious Name™.

Amen.

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