[Jedediah]

Watch it and weep, atheists! Science proves you wrong once again!

When you are ready to begin your personal relationship with Christ, we will be here to help.

[Jack O'fagan]

Even if scientists did manage to make life in a test tube all it would prove is that intelligence is needed to make it happen therefore proving the existence of God.

GLORY!

Jack

[Titus Templeton]

That guy is way better then Hawking!

[The Salt and Light]

It's funny to see those eternally damned Atheists proven wrong by the very lies they teach.

[Jack O'fagan]

Originally Posted by The Salt and Light

It's funny to see those eternally damned Atheists proven wrong by the very lies they teach.

Greetings friend. Can you please introduce yourself on the introduction thread.

[Kurt Gerhard]

You do know that a cell is a very complex entity? One that is an end product not a base component ? And you seem to argue at one point somewhere on this forum that stuff that is not visible with the naked eye like bacteria does not exist. So please make up your mind...

[Brother Enoch]

Originally Posted by Kurt Gerhard

You do know that a cell is a very complex entity? One that is an end product not a base component ?

Yeah...

I was skinning a couple of coyotes I trapped earlier this morning and the snow was stained red with lots of end product. Guess what? It's still there, hasn't moved an inch. Pretty sure it's a base component.

[neozigma]

Wait , the only thing that could prove that wrong is saying that every single cells on our body have soul

besides , how can you determinate that something has a soul ? do animals have souls ? if no then why should a single cell have one ? . If animals have souls then why not that single cell ? and how can you measure when something has a soul or not ?

[Zechariah Smyth]

Originally Posted by neozigma

Wait , the only thing that could prove that wrong is saying that every single cells on our body have soul

besides , how can you determinate that something has a soul ? do animals have souls ? if no then why should a single cell have one ? . If animals have souls then why not that single cell ? and how can you measure when something has a soul or not ?

What?



People are the only things with a soul. Plants and animals do not have souls. So by definition a single cell cannot have a soul since it is not a person.

Plus, the human body only has a soul as long as it's alive.

(Ecclesiastes 12:7) "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it."

Try to keep up.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[neozigma]

Originally Posted by Zechariah Smyth

People are the only things with a soul. Plants and animals do not have souls. So by definition a single cell cannot have a soul since it is not a person.

Plus, the human body only has a soul as long as it's alive.

(Ecclesiastes 12:7) "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it."

Oh i see then , but then why do animals posses "instinct" and the mental capacity to follow them ? how do they know that some things are food and some arent ?

Of course we are linking " Intellect " with " Soul " , because "we are things without a soul "

Now then , how can you teach a dog tricks ? how can you make gorillas press buttoms to receive food ? and why are there few animals with this capacity ?

Try to keep up with the time , geezer

Yours in Technology ,

A.M.C

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by neozigma

Oh i see then , but then why do animals posses "instinct" and the mental capacity to follow them ? how do they know that some things are food and some arent ?

Of course we are linking " Intellect " with " Soul " , because "we are things without a soul "

Now then , how can you teach a dog tricks ? how can you make gorillas press buttoms to receive food ? and why are there few animals with this capacity ?

Try to keep up with the time , geezer

Yours in Technology ,

A.M.C

Got any evidence that's not in the Bible for the existence of souls?

I'm not sure the word "soul" means what you think it means, by the way. You seem to be confusing to mean "contained by that which exhibits behaviour" which is not what we mean when we say "soul." It's a simple linguistic misunderstanding but is why you are so determined to make such a fool of yourself, obviously.

God made us in His own image and we are the only one of His creations to eat of the tree of knowledge.

Genesis 3
22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: 23Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. 24So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

But of course you reject the evidence so it's small wonder you are so confused.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Originally Posted by neozigma

Oh i see then , but then why do animals posses "instinct" and the mental capacity to follow them ? how do they know that some things are food and some arent ?

Of course we are linking " Intellect " with " Soul " , because "we are things without a soul "

Now then , how can you teach a dog tricks ? how can you make gorillas press buttoms to receive food ? and why are there few animals with this capacity ?

Try to keep up with the time , geezer

Yours in Technology ,

A.M.C

You are confusing "mental capacity" and "soul." By your definition, that computer that plays chess with the rooskies has a soul.



YiC,

Zech

[neozigma]

Originally Posted by Redeemed Papist

Got any evidence that's not in the Bible for the existence of souls?

I'm not sure the word "soul" means what you think it means, by the way. You seem to be confusing to mean "contained by that which exhibits behaviour" which is not what we mean when we say "soul." It's a simple linguistic misunderstanding but is why you are so determined to make such a fool of yourself, obviously.

God made us in His own image and we are the only one of His creations to eat of the tree of knowledge.

Genesis 3
22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: 23Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. 24So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

But of course you reject the evidence so it's small wonder you are so confused.

Nope , i dont have any evidences

and why should i have evidences ? oh wait there is some

"Artificial intelligence"
"In vitro"

also why would we even want to create a soul ? after all we just need a man sperm and a woman egg and BUM there you go , a soul .

Anyone can create a soul if we go with your logic .

[Brother Enoch]

Originally Posted by neozigma

also why would we even want to create a soul ? after all we just need a man sperm and a woman egg and BUM

Yeah, that's not where babies grow.

[Professor Logic]

Originally Posted by Jack O'fagan

Even if scientists did manage to make life in a test tube all it would prove is that intelligence is needed to make it happen therefore proving the existence of God.

GLORY!

Jack

That makes no sense. Emulating the exact conditions that were present in the early years of Earth and watching what happens doesn't insert intelligence into it at all.

Of course the life would eventually emerge. What you always forgot, that the the time from first organic molecule to self-replicating monocellular life was more than twice as long as the time between first monocellular life to this day. That's how complex it is for life to emerge. Good luck making any experiment, that would disprove that.

[Jack O'fagan]

Originally Posted by Professor Logic

That makes no sense. Emulating the exact conditions that were present in the early years of Earth and watching what happens doesn't insert intelligence into it at all.

Of course the life would eventually emerge. What you always forgot, that the the time from first organic molecule to self-replicating monocellular life was more than twice as long as the time between first monocellular life to this day. That's how complex it is for life to emerge. Good luck making any experiment, that would disprove that.

Good luck with any experiment that would prove it. So where does 'consciousness' come from? At what stage does you mixture of chemicals become aware that it is a mixture of chemicals? I will give you a clue, it doesn't.

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

YIC

Jack

[Professor Logic]

Originally Posted by Jack O'fagan

Good luck with any experiment that would prove it. So where does 'consciousness' come from? At what stage does you mixture of chemicals become aware that it is a mixture of chemicals? I will give you a clue, it doesn't.

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

YIC

Jack

We have tons of fossil and more importantly molecular evidence. The ball is now on your court. So far evolution passed any test like the predictions of discovery of transitional species.

Consciousness? Right when there is a brain to run required electrochemical processes on an advanced enough level.

[Jack O'fagan]

Consciousness? Right when there is a brain to run required electrochemical processes on an advanced enough level.

So you believe it's a pile of atoms with electricity running though it. That's the same as a computer. Is my computer conscious? What is the difference? It is made of the same material. Come on where does consciousness come from? A process cannot produce the feeling of self.

Here is the answer,

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

YIC

Jack

[Professor Logic]

Originally Posted by Jack O'fagan

So you believe it's a pile of atoms with electricity running though it. That's the same as a computer. Is my computer conscious? What is the difference? It is made of the same material. Come on where does consciousness come from? A process cannot produce the feeling of self.

Here is the answer,

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

YIC

Jack

Computers work in a different way than brain does and are not nearly enough complex. Current computers are like insect. We need at least birds.

That would of course be impossible with current computers, because all we do is making them faster. Radical change in their architecture would be needed first.

[Jack O'fagan]

Originally Posted by Professor Logic

Computers work in a different way than brain does and are not nearly enough complex. Current computers are like insect. We need at least birds.

That would of course be impossible with current computers, because all we do is making them faster. Radical change in their architecture would be needed first.

Even you know your answer is bullshit. Do you really believe that we can make a machine that is aware of its own existence.

YIC

Jack