[Brother Temperance]

I wasn't quite sure where to put this, but thought here was probably best, so as no women would see it and have inappropriate thoughts...anyway, it's a question that Christian theologians, and even a few Catholics, have pondered for centuries - did Adam p*n*tr*t* Eve before Original Sin took place? Some say yes, some say no, but never before has the question been posed in the form of an interweb poll on God's favourite forums. Come have your say on this vital theological question.

[Brother V]

I had originally voted no, but upon further reflection, I had to edit my vote.

Genesis 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Before they were kicked out, it's already mentioned that they shall be one flesh (having the nookie).

So, thus, my vote is yes.

YIC
V

[Brother Guy Bayard]

My opinion is that as long as Adam was INSIDE the garden of Eden, he was with God, and did not need to look elsewhere to occupy his thoughts, so no thought of fornication would have entered his mind.
Once he was cast out with Eve and was seperated from God, Eve found it easier to get his attention and took advantage of Adam.

[Nobar King]

I'd have to say yes, since they were there before they knew the difference between good and evil. Look at the kids these days; they're too young to know the difference between good and bad, and they are having sex everywhere.

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by Nobar King

I'd have to say yes, since they were there before they knew the difference between good and evil. Look at the kids these days; they're too young to know the difference between good and bad, and they are having sex everywhere.

Nobar,

God makes it clear the ignorance of the law is no excuse. Countless millions will burn in Hell because they were born in isolated, pagan tribes and they never bothered to go find out about Jesus. Flimsy excuses like you live in the stone age, there is an ocean and you had no idea there was anything beyond the ocean don't cut it with Our Lord as well it should. He is tough, but fair. GLORY!

[Nobar King]

Right, but Adam and Eve were perfect beings, so their fornication was pure, and not sinful. (The comparison to ignorant modern teens was loose, at best).

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by Nobar King

Right, but Adam and Eve were perfect beings, so their fornication was pure, and not sinful. (The comparison to ignorant modern teens was loose, at best).

Not to mention it most certainly was not incest. There have been certain depraved individuals who have suggested that since Eve was made from Adam’s rib that would make Eve Adam’s sister or daughter. That is ridicules. Since when has a rib been anyone’s sister or daughter? There are just too many people out there trying to turn The Bible into nonsense.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Brother V

I had originally voted no, but upon further reflection, I had to edit my vote.

Genesis 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Before they were kicked out, it's already mentioned that they shall be one flesh (having the nookie).

So, thus, my vote is yes.

YIC
V

Many would agree with you, Brother V. but I am not amoungst them.

The Garden of Eden was a perfect place, as were Adam and Eve. I believe that they had a way of "being one flesh" back then, that did not involve all that smelly, slimey sin. The verse never says that Adam "went unto her". The Garden was a "no nookie zone". Even the animals didn't need that.

After Eve brought the house down and sinned by listening to the talking snake (satan), then God created intracourse as one of the punishments. I give thanks every day that He made Eve bleed from her genitals once a month, and not Adam.

Anyway, maybe some light petting was all they did, in my humble opinion. No nookie.

[Seeker]

After Eve brought the house down and sinned by listening to the talking snake (satan), then God created intracourse as one of the punishments. I give thanks every day that He made Eve bleed from her genitals once a month, and not Adam.

the talking snake never had legs like the bible says and so there is no such thing as a curse on snakes crawling on their belly. funny. heh They can make really nice pets and they don't talk back. they are just cursed with taboo. heh.

How could Eve get such a bad wrap when there was only one guy to scr*w? (married, Adam) Why to this day does this stereotype exist?

[Rachael Van Helsing]

I'd say yes, if they had actually existed, they would have done the deed.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Seeker

the talking snake never had legs like the bible says and so there is no such thing as a curse on snakes crawling on their belly. funny. heh They can make really nice pets and they don't talk back. they are just cursed with taboo. heh.

How could Eve get such a bad wrap when there was only one guy to scr*w? (married, Adam) Why to this day does this stereotype exist?

Kindly show us the exact verse or verses that you are referring to. I hope you are not trying to imply that the Word of God is anything less than perfect and true.

By the way, we do not take fornication as some kind of juvenile joke around here. Jesus reads these forums, so consider yourself warned.

You harlot-like tendencies and occasional feminazi outbursts are duly noted. Any further attempts to defend the unspeakably offensive sin of Eve will be dealt with harshly. True Christianity™ remains a distant goal for you I'm afraid.

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by Rachael Van Helsing

I'd say yes, if they had actually existed, they would have done the deed.

Well, that would seem to settle it: if Satan's spokeswoman says they did it, then that proves that people without Original Sin would not have committed such an act. Unless the Father of Lies knew that, and deliberately instructed his harlot daughter to say they performed the act in order to confuse us? Theology sure can be tricky sometimes.

[SalvationSeeker]

Hmm. Let's see..

In Genesis 2:23-24 it says:
And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

This is not a saying of how it was at the time, but how it was going to be (Therefore SHALL):
As Adam and Eve did not have parents to leave but was made by God...
And Adam couldn't know what such was either, not yet having eaten from the tree of knowledge.
This was actually a prophecy that Adam spoke.

And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
Genesis 2:25

^ For they did not even know that they were naked! (Genesis 3:11)
So when one considers that, it becomes quite clear that they couldn't fornicate:
They wouldn't know how, as they literally knew nothing.

Also, the Bible doesn't mention any children or them "knowing" eachother before they were thrown out of the garden.
But first in Genesis 4, AFTER they were thrown out -
Does it mention that:

And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said,
I have gotten a man from the LORD.
Genesis 4:1

Conclusion:
Adam did not go in unto Eve in the garden of Eden.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Originally Posted by Brother Temperance

Well, that would seem to settle it: if Satan's spokeswoman says they did it, then that proves that people without Original Sin would not have committed such an act. Unless the Father of Lies knew that, and deliberately instructed his harlot daughter to say they performed the act in order to confuse us? Theology sure can be tricky sometimes.

???
Wait a moment, I think I see what's happening here.....

Temperance, your god does not want you to give me all your money then run naked through the town screaming 'eureka!'

[Seeker]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

Kindly show us the exact verse or verses that you are referring to. I hope you are not trying to imply that the Word of God is anything less than perfect and true.

By the way, we do not take fornication as some kind of juvenile joke around here. Jesus reads these forums, so consider yourself warned.

You harlot-like tendencies and occasional feminazi outbursts are duly noted. Any further attempts to defend the unspeakably offensive sin of Eve will be dealt with harshly. True Christianity™ remains a distant goal for you I'm afraid.

Read Genesis chapter 3 in the whole context. Verse 14 is great. God made it sound like a snake walked and had legs before. Why else would he say... "Cursed are you above all the livestock and all the wild animals. You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life."

That must be why reptiles love the desert.

No harlot here, just reading the word...

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Seeker

the talking snake never had legs like the bible says and so there is no such thing as a curse on snakes crawling on their belly. funny. heh They can make really nice pets and they don't talk back. they are just cursed with taboo. heh.

How could Eve get such a bad wrap when there was only one guy to scr*w? (married, Adam) Why to this day does this stereotype exist?

Genesis 3:14 shows that you are completely incorrect. God did curse snakes. The fact that you think that satan's best friend might "make a really nice pet" only reveals your perverted tendencies. Whether snakes used to have legs or not is irrelevant. He can take the legs away from any animal (or lippy harlot) that He chooses.

3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

Originally Posted by Seeker

Read Genesis chapter 3 in the whole context. Verse 14 is great. God made it sound like a snake walked and had legs before. Why else would he say... "Cursed are you above all the livestock and all the wild animals. You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life."

That must be why reptiles love the desert.

No harlot here, just reading the word...

It astonishes me that you would want to attempt to defend this profanity-laced post. Don't you have floors to scrub or pies to bake?

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

Genesis 3:14 shows that you are completely incorrect. God did curse snakes. The fact that you think that satan's best friend might "make a really nice pet" only reveals your perverted tendencies. Whether snakes used to have legs or not is irrelevant. He can take the legs away from any animal (or lippy harlot) that He chooses.

Look at grasshoppers! Despite having six limbs, they can only go on four legs. How unfortunate is that? Don't make Jesus crush you like a grasshopper, repent of your [you as in Seeker, and any unsaved trash reading this thread, not Ezekiel, obviously] uppityness today!

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Originally Posted by Seeker

They can make really nice pets and they don't talk back.

You would do well to learn from them.

[eliot mayfield]

Originally Posted by Rachael Van Helsing

I'd say yes, if they had actually existed, they would have done the deed.

Rachael, you ignorant slut!
Even science admits there was an Adam! Of course they get almost everything else wrong, but here is the link:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...ncerwells.html

Science has admitted to the great flood and now adam and Eve. It's just a matter of time before they admit the Bible is 100% correct!

[SUV]

In the Garden of Eden, Baby
You know that I love you -
In the Garden of Eden, Baby -
You know that I'll always be true!

DadadadadadadadadadadadaDA!