[Pastor J.C. Manning, M.D., Ph.D.]

Dear Friends,

I really think we have to hurry up and start impeaching Omaba before it is too late! Now that the Republicans have crushed Obama in the latest elections he is getting desperate. During his visit to Indonesia, the nation with the largest Muslim population in the world, he has made some extremely disturbing statements.

"America is not, and never will be, at war with Islam" Obama insisted, thereby brutally disgracing all American soldiers who fought for our freedom in Irak and Afghanistan. Obama doesn't care about our freedom at all. All he cares about is making America a Sharia country.

Obama also said "America has a stake in an Indonesia that is growing" thereby clearly referring to the huge amount of jobs that are stolen from hard working Americans by lazy Indonesian Muslims. Obama stealing the job of American president is only the tip of the iceberg here.

He must also be the first president ever to say "a great world religion like Islam". Without doubt the most idiotic thing ever said by an American president. Yet more proof he blatantly lied when claiming to be a Christian while he stole the elections from Sarah Palin.

The only thing slightly amusing about this disgrace of a president is that he lies so much that even Muslims are starting to doubt his words. Hizbut Tahrir, a spokesman for the Muslim terrorists, said: "That's why we reject Obama and we don't believe that he's reaching out to Muslims." On the other hand Hizbut Tahrir also said "We don't see the differences between Obama and Bush." so he could very well be an escaped lunatic.

God, in His always infinite wisdom, already warned us for Obama's deception: "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." (Matthew 24:24)

Yours in Christ,

Pastor J.C. Manning, M.D., Ph.D.

[Jo Freddie]

Originally Posted by Pastor J.C. Manning, M.D., Ph.D.

"America is not, and never will be, at war with Islam" Obama insisted, thereby brutally disgracing all Americans soldiers who fought for our freedom in Irak and Afghanistan.

Do you recognise this quote?

We are not at war with the Afghani people, and we are not at war with Islam, which most Americans respect as a religion of peace.

[Lycia The Repentant]

Thank you for posting that great quote of former president Bush's Jo Freddie, but what exactly is your point?

[Wide-Open]

Originally Posted by Jo Freddie

Do you recognise this quote?

Ever heard of Taqiyya Jo?

They'll lie about just anything you know.

I mean, Obama even spoke muslim during his "show" in Indochina!

He supposedly talked about buffalos, and mango trees, and kite running, and goats, and satays AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE CODE WORDS FOR!

I say: impeach the guy. Now.

[Jo Freddie]

Originally Posted by Lycra The Repellent

Thank you for posting that great quote of former president Bush's Jo Freddie, but what exactly is your point?

What did Pastor Manny say about this statement from Obama?

"America is not, and never will be, at war with Islam"

[Lycia The Repentant]

Originally Posted by Jo Freddie

What did Pastor Manny say about this statement from Obama?

Are you talking to your "Lycra" god again? Why do you worship them if they are so repellent?

Pastor Manning said that Obama was disgracing American troops (which he was). Bush said nothing of the sort in that quote. Would you like me to deconstruct each quote and point out exactly how they are different, or would you like your Lycra-god to do it?

[Oakland "Reb" Griner]

What kind of name is "Hizbut" ??

[Jo Freddie]

Originally Posted by Lycra The Repellent

Are you talking to your "Lycra" god again? Why do you worship them if they are so repellent?

Pastor Manning said that Obama was disgracing American troops (which he was). Bush said nothing of the sort in that quote. Would you like me to deconstruct each quote and point out exactly how they are different, or would you like your Lycra-god to do it?

Manny (and now you) claim that Obama was disgracing American troops by taking exactly the same position as Bush, so either he wasn't or so was Bush.
Bush makes his position in Islam clear in this clip.

[Wide-Open]

Originally Posted by Oakland "Reb" Griner

What kind of name is "Hizbut" ??

Shorthand for Hezbollah, no doubt.

That is Lebanese for "your ass, my ass, what's the difference?".

[Lycia The Repentant]

Originally Posted by Jo Freddie

Manny (and now you) claim that Obama was disgracing American troops by taking exactly the same position as Bush, so either he wasn't or so was Bush.
Bush makes his position in Islam clear in this clip.

I didn't see any "Lycra" person claim that Obama was disgracing American troops. Maybe you should lay off the pasta, friend.

Now, what you seem to have forgotten is that former president Bush, along with his many other virtues, was a master at the art of politics. That clip is a perfect example of Bush giving a speech that would make Macchiavelli proud (read chapter 19 of The Prince: Avoiding Contempt and Hatred). Bush wasn't speaking literally there, but rather was using great literary techniques such as metaphors and similies.

Now please Jo Freddie, try to think before you make these crazy arguments.

[Jo Freddie]

Originally Posted by Lycra The Repellent

Now, what you seem to have forgotten is that former president Bush, along with his many other virtues, was a master at the art of politics. That clip is a perfect example of Bush giving a speech that would make Macchiavelli proud (read chapter 19 of The Prince: Avoiding Contempt and Hatred). Bush wasn't speaking literally there, but rather was using great literary techniques such as metaphors and similies.

Would anyone care to give a breakdown of the metaphors and the similes in this speech:

Originally Posted by President Bush 's address to a joint session of Congress

...We will not forget South Korean children gathering to pray outside our embassy in Seoul, or the prayers of sympathy offered at a mosque in Cairo...The terrorists practice a fringe form of Islamic extremism that has been rejected by Muslim scholars and the vast majority of Muslim clerics; a fringe movement that perverts the peaceful teachings of Islam. The terrorists' directive commands them to kill Christians and Jews, to kill all Americans and make no distinctions among military and civilians, including women and children...I also want to speak tonight directly to Muslims throughout the world. We respect your faith. It's practiced freely by many millions of Americans and by millions more in countries that America counts as friends. Its teachings are good and peaceful, and those who commit evil in the name of Allah BLASPHEME THE NAME OF ALLAH. The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself...In all that lies before us, may God grant us wisdom, and may he watch over the United States of America...

[Lycia The Repentant]

Originally Posted by Jo Freddie

Would anyone care to give a breakdown of the metaphors and the similes in this speech:

In case you haven't noticed alfredo-head, this thread isn't about praising the wonderful prose of George W. Bush's speeches, but is rather about Obama surrendering America to the mooslims. While I am certainly glad to see you taking an interest in learning more about Bush's impressive use of the American language, why don't you try staying on topic for once?

Now, I have a question for anybody who isn't a brain-addled pasta (or lycra?) worshipper. Does this mean that soon we women will need to wear burkas?

[Jo Freddie]

Originally Posted by Lycra The Repellent

In case you haven't noticed alfredo-head, this thread isn't about praising the wonderful prose of George W. Bush's speeches, but is rather about Obama surrendering America to the mooslims.

And one of the major planks of that claim is the stance Obama has taken towards Islam, which I have shown is no different to that put forward by Bush in the examples I have given, so that plank does not hold.

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by Jo Freddie

And one of the major planks of that claim is the stance Obama has taken towards Islam, which I have shown is no different to that put forward by Bush in the examples I have given, so that plank does not hold.

They're completely different statements. Let me translate the subtext for you:

Bush: "We are not at war with the Afghani people, and we are not at war with Islam, which most Americans respect as a religion of peace. "

TRANSLATION: "One Islam surrenders to America and the executions are done in a orderly manner there will be peace much like we have with the American-Indians."

Obama: "America is not, and never will be, at war with Islam"

TRANSLATION "America surrenders and implements Shariah law. Please don't kill us all! I was only taking orders!"

[Jo Freddie]

Originally Posted by Bobby-Joe

TRANSLATION "America surrenders and implements Shariah law. Please don't kill us all! I was only taking orders!"

I think Obama's understanding of the American constitution differs greatly with the one you are crediting him with.

I'll let Old Fart spell it out for you.

[PetitionLady]

Originally Posted by Pastor J.C. Manning, M.D., Ph.D.

Dear Friends,

I really think we have to hurry up and start impeaching Omaba before it is too late! Now that the Republicans have crushed Obama in the latest elections he is getting desperate. During his visit to Indonesia, the nation with the largest Muslim population in the world, he has made some extremely disturbing statements.

"America is not, and never will be, at war with Islam" Obama insisted, thereby brutally disgracing all American soldiers who fought for our freedom in Irak and Afghanistan. Obama doesn't care about our freedom at all. All he cares about is making America a Sharia country.

Obama also said "America has a stake in an Indonesia that is growing" thereby clearly referring to the huge amount of jobs that are stolen from hard working Americans by lazy Indonesian Muslims. Obama stealing the job of American president is only the tip of the iceberg here.

He must also be the first president ever to say "a great world religion like Islam". Without doubt the most idiotic thing ever said by an American president. Yet more proof he blatantly lied when claiming to be a Christian while he stole the elections from Sarah Palin.

The only thing slightly amusing about this disgrace of a president is that he lies so much that even Muslims are starting to doubt his words. Hizbut Tahrir, a spokesman for the Muslim terrorists, said: "That's why we reject Obama and we don't believe that he's reaching out to Muslims." On the other hand Hizbut Tahrir also said "We don't see the differences between Obama and Bush." so he could very well be an escaped lunatic.

God, in His always infinite wisdom, already warned us for Obama's deception: "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." (Matthew 24:24)

Yours in Christ,

Pastor J.C. Manning, M.D., Ph.D.

Pastor Manning, I can't tell you how much I appreciate your words and great insight. Thank you. I'm horrified and appalled that Obama would praise Islam and pretend to speak for the American people. I'm not surprised, but disgusted. How dare he!

I also agree that he's trying to make a mockery out of our troops who put their lives on the line for our freedom. Those who fight deadly, daily battles with the terrorist enemy should be praised by the CinC, the way President Bush praised them.

Of course I'm still thanking God for the landslide victory we had last week. It's a start. Again, thank you.

[despising david]

Originally Posted by Lycia The Repentant

In case you haven't noticed alfredo-head, this thread isn't about praising the wonderful prose of George W. Bush's speeches, but is rather about Obama surrendering America to the mooslims. While I am certainly glad to see you taking an interest in learning more about Bush's impressive use of the American language, why don't you try staying on topic for once?

Now, I have a question for anybody who isn't a brain-addled pasta (or lycra?) worshipper. Does this mean that soon we women will need to wear burkas?

No Burka's will be necessary for a True Christian, the Burka is used to cover god Mocking whore's and prevent them from ruining good marriages with theyre lust for depraving God. Now that we have True Christians in office that can combat Osambo's attack on America you can rest assured that god will never allow us not to see a beautiful Christian face.