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Default Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian? - 12-18-2007, 05:55 AM

Is it possible to revoke every government except gods alone? It says in Matthew that all governments are created by Satan, it only seems right to fight them.
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Default Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian? - 12-18-2007, 06:05 AM

If you are going to make a claim like that, I'm afraid you are going to have to cite the chapter and verse. I don't remember reading anything like that in the book of Matthew.

On the contrary, Dante Scritic, the Bible tells us that we are to obey the government.

1st Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
1st Peter 2:14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
1st Peter 2:15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:

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Default Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian? - 12-18-2007, 06:15 AM

The classic passage in which Jesus forbids us to be "archists" (and thereby commands us to be "anarchists") is Mark 10:42-45

The word translated "rulers" comes from the Greek word from which we derive our word "anarchist." Jesus clearly says His followers are not to be "archists," and that means we are to be "an-archists." In fact, God hates archists

In the Bible, archists are bad. Jesus says we are not to be archists, and He says the opposite of an archist is a servant.
I strive to be a servant, not an archist.
All the other character traits listed at left are examples of service. They are manifestations of a servant's heart. Anyone committed to those character traits will not seize your money to buy bombs, assassinate political opponents, or deprive you of your life, liberty, property, or pursuit of happiness.
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The classic passage in which Jesus forbids us to be "archists" (and thereby commands us to be "anarchists") is Mark 10:42-45

The word translated "rulers" comes from the Greek word from which we derive our word "anarchist." Jesus clearly says His followers are not to be "archists," and that means we are to be "an-archists." In fact, God hates archists

In the Bible, archists are bad. Jesus says we are not to be archists, and He says the opposite of an archist is a servant.
I strive to be a servant, not an archist.
Um, no.

See, this is what happens when the Godless read the Bible without guidance from a Pastor or from God.

Mark 10:42-45
42But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them.

43But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:

44And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all.

45For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
This is Jesus telling his apostles to take care of each other, and not to seek (or, more realistically, battle for) a leadership position within the group. This has nothing whatsoever to do with government, and everything to do with maintaining group cohesion.

As Pastor Billy-Reuben has pointed out (and you have conveniently ignored), GOD tells us through Peter in the Bible to be subject to the governments HE has placed over US. Maybe you can "interpret" that to mean that God hates government, but I'm not seeing it.

I realize you find the sound of your own gums flapping in the breeze as you attempt to demonstrate your intellectual superiority quite enticing. Sadly, it's only so much cow bell to those of us who choose to Listen instead of straining to hear.
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Default Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian? - 12-18-2007, 06:53 AM

The government has never done gods will, only the will of those in charge. Jesus tells us that his fathers kingdom is "Not of this world" therefore any kingdom you support in this world is in direct contradiction with gods word! Perhaps if you Baptists weren't so busy watching your TV Evangelists and buying silver watches you would begin to understand that government contradicts every commandment! Praise Jesus!
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The government has never done gods will, only the will of those in charge. Jesus tells us that his fathers kingdom is "Not of this world" therefore any kingdom you support in this world is in direct contradiction with gods word! Perhaps if you Baptists weren't so busy watching your TV Evangelists and buying silver watches you would begin to understand that government contradicts every commandment! Praise Jesus!
God has instructed us ("us" includes YOU) to be subject to the governments HE has appointed over us. What part of that don't you understand? GOD appoints the governments. It is up to HIM to decide who rules, not YOU. It is not up to YOU to overthrow the government GOD has created!

Were we to join you in your anarchist crusade, we would then be disobeying God's Word.

You're a Paultard, aren't you? Why don't you hop into the Paultardis and take your silly little "quest" to a Ron Paul forum, and stop interfering with God's Work?
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Jesus tells us that his fathers kingdom is "Not of this world" therefore any kingdom you support in this world is in direct contradiction with gods word!
Care to explain how you made this jump in "logic"?

Honestly, I am so tired of you mormons who have seen "The Devil's Advocate" one too many times. Look, you live in a Christian nation for God's sake. Quite complaining about the establishment! C'mon, our president is so goddam religious we can't even kill babies for stem cell research. People like you should have forced shock therapy with the volts cranked up to about 50 million.


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Default Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian? - 12-18-2007, 03:27 PM

Psh! I ain't no John Smith worshipper they can all burn in hell with their one hundred wives for all I care! Though I still refuse to see how my political beliefs, just as long as I have faith in Jesus Christ our lord could possibly send me to the lake of mormon.... err fire.
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Psh! I ain't no John Smith worshipper they can all burn in hell with their one hundred wives for all I care! Though I still refuse to see how my political beliefs, just as long as I have faith in Jesus Christ our lord could possibly send me to the lake of mormon.... err fire.
Ok, I'm gonna explain something to you about computers, you sound like a dumbass so try to keep up. In the computer world there are things called "macros". On this forum there is a macro that takes the word "m o r o n" and turns it into mormon. This is to show that they are synonomous, since the implications of the changed sentances are usually the same. It took me all of five seconds to figure this out when I first joined this forum. Plus the founder of the mormon church was named joseph smith not john smith.


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Default Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian? - 12-18-2007, 11:44 PM

Pastor deacon fred was able to convert a catholic in 59 seconds, I am going to covert a baptist to! You water dunkin, conservative uptight, bible-beatin thousand dollar watch wearin, doomsday reminding, politician kissin little scoundrel!

You hear me now.. Baptist. I ain't never been a mormon, and I sure as hell am not a mormon in the slightest! Go back and read what Mathew and Revealations say about the outcome of rulers.

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You hear me now.. Baptist. I ain't never been a mormon, and I sure as hell am not a mormon in the slightest! Go back and read what Mathew and Revealations say about the outcome of rulers.

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I'll be laughing from heaven when your "Grand Leader" Bush is under judgement.
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I'll be laughing from heaven when your "Grand Leader" Bush is under judgement.
President Bush was hand-picked by Jesus to lead us in the War on Terror. I mean what could be more obvious? He lost the election and yet became president. How can you question Christ's Divine Plan©?

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Ok, I'm gonna explain something to you about computers, you sound like a dumbass so try to keep up.... On this forum there is a macro that takes the word "m o r o n" and turns it into mormon.
dantescritic is obviously both a Mormon and a dumbass (acutally, that's kind of redundant). Then again, you're a pussy, so who are you to criticize? Anyway, there's no editing script: Moron, moron, moron, moron, moron, moron. See?



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Default Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian? - 12-19-2007, 01:22 AM

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I'll be laughing from heaven when your "Grand Leader" Bush is under judgement.
Oh my, you really are confused...
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Default Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian? - 12-19-2007, 07:14 AM

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Then again, you're a pussy, so who are you to criticize?
Do all christians practice baseless name calling or are you some sorta radical? It's cool. I understand that you have to act like a badass on the internet to get any action from you wife.....well, I might be giving you too much credit assuming that you're married (to a woman at least!)

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You hear me now.. Baptist. I ain't never been a mormon
You hear me now retard, I'm not Baptist and I don't enjoy being lumped in with their kind.

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President Bush was hand-picked by Jesus to lead us in the War on Terror. I mean what could be more obvious? He lost the election and yet became president. How can you question Christ's Divine Plan©?
You'd think that Christ could at least pick some one that can pronounce the word "nuclear" correctly as well as some one that doesn't have E.D. Question: does Christ copyright all his material?


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Default Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian? - 12-19-2007, 03:00 PM

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act like a badass on the internet
Heh.. You're not really in a position to critizise anyone for doing that.
(Besides, brother smith isn't doing any "acting" whatsoever here.)
Pot calling the kettle black if I've ever seen it.


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Default Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian? - 12-19-2007, 05:08 PM

Thank you, Brother Seeker.

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Do all christians practice baseless name calling
No, you pussy. True Christians™ always have a reason when we call names. Anyway, you're the one who called him a dumbass and a Mormon first, so why are you upset with me for agreeing with you?

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you have to act like a badass on the internet to get any action from you wife
A True Christian™ man doesn't need to act like anything other than an apostle to get action from his wives:

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.....well, I might be giving you too much credit assuming that you're married (to a woman at least!)
Nobody cares what a pussy like you thinks.

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I'm not Baptist
PRAISE GOD!!!! Spending eternity with a pussy like you would simply have been insufferable.

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You'd think that Christ could at least pick some one that can pronounce the word "nuclear" correctly as well as some one that doesn't have E.D.
Or perhaps someone who knows that the pronoun "who" is used to refer to people, not the pronoun "that," and that "someone" is one word, not two.

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Question: does Christ copyright all his material?
Why don't you open up a Bible and see for yourself?



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Default Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian? - 12-19-2007, 06:20 PM

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Is it possible to revoke every government except gods alone? It says in Matthew that all governments are created by Satan, it only seems right to fight them.
Why did you feel the need to create two virtually identical threads? Is it to distract attention from how badly you were losing the argument in the other one? I may as well repeat my reply from your identical thread:
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Tolstoy claimed to be a Christian Anarchist as well, until Jesus killed him for being a drunken sass-mouth Russkie with no respect for the powers that be. In the eyes of the Lord, everyone's a servant, so read this and shut up.
Can you solve those contradictions?


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Default Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian? - 12-19-2007, 08:21 PM

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Heh.. You're not really in a position to critizise anyone for doing that.
(Besides, brother smith isn't doing any "acting" whatsoever here.)
Pot calling the kettle black if I've ever seen it.
Meh, you called my bluff. But I mean give me a break, the guy uses the word pussy four times on his posts in just under 2 days; pimps barely even see that kind of action!

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A True Christian™ man doesn't need to act like anything other than an apostle to get action from his wives
Wow, sounds like you and your wife must have a uh.....wild time.

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Spending eternity with a pussy like you would simply have been insufferable.
How wierd, I was just thinking the same thing.....must be that damned Jesus magic again.

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Or perhaps someone who knows that the pronoun "who" is used to refer to people, not the pronoun "that," and that "someone" is one word, not two.
Thank you for assuming the role of grammer police. Typos were running so rampant across this forum I wasn't sure what to do. I'll rest easier now though, knowing that somebody finally has enough free time to end this 9th grade English teacher's nightmare.


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