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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
11-27-2010, 03:03 AM
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
11-27-2010, 03:04 AM
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You people make me sick.
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Dear Godmocking Whore;
Thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule of worshiping satan and spreading your legs for anyone with a dollar to post this hateful message. The Holy Bible tells us that we are actually Blessed by your persecution! Thanks for proving that we're right.
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Matthew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
11-27-2010, 03:49 AM
I think part of the problem is the choice of wording. As a good Christian parent it is your duty to guide your daughter towards an acceptable man so that she can have a fulfilling, life-long relationship.
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
11-27-2010, 05:58 AM
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I think part of the problem is the choice of wording. As a good Christian parent it is your duty to guide your daughter towards an acceptable man so that she can have a fulfilling, life-long relationship.
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Well of course you should, Brother Nobar!
But this thread isn't about marrying off your daughter to her rapist; it's about using your daughter as a "human shield/angry mob's cumbucket" to save yourself and other important members of your family (wife, sons) from violent, depraved, hate-filled mobs or maurauding armies.
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
11-29-2010, 04:36 AM
I think I'd rather worship Lucifer than God if that is the "Christian" way.
You know, there's a reason why Lucifer rebelled (along with other angels) against God, because he was obviously doing something they didn't approve of. Before that, Lucifer was one of God's favorite.
Do you know what the name Lucifer means? Light-bearer.
But enough of that story. Yes, I said it, story. You know who created God? Man did. Why else would he have "human" emotions? Like love, hatred, and jealousy? No divine being should have any sort of emotions like that, it would impair their judgement. And why do you choose to obey the Bible? When there are way older religious scriptures, and the Bible is basically a collection/rip off (that has been modified, and has added new material) of them. And if you say "well, the Bible said it is THE truth from God himself", not really, it was all written by a collection of humans. Plus, that's what basically all religions say, that their religion and scriptures are the one and only and the truth.
And tell me this, did Jesus ever write a single word that was said by him in the New Testament? No, he didn't. His disciples did.
What's funny is, most Bibles nowadays don't contain all of the books or scriptures that were found among the other ones, so you're not getting everything.
You all, including most humans, even atheists, are blind to the greater truth. You know what and who the true God really is? Everyone, everything, the stars, the blades of grass, the soil, the universe, and nature. Most of it resonates at one pulse, and is one. But humans are still blind to this and do not realize they're apart of something greater than God, Jesus, Allah, Zeus, Ra, or any deity. Religion was made up by man because of the absence of any real laws and needed some way to get people under control.
Even though there are killings and disagreement among humans, their souls are linked, but over the years people have forced themselves to ignore that so most people can't even feel it. But they're all one consciousness and will see that this is all really just a big, major illusion they're in, hopefully.
Do you want to be truly enlightened? Step outside on a summer day (or any season you prefer), look around you, look at the birds, the trees (if you're in a city that's not very..."nature" go to a forest or somewhere), feel the energy that's in the air, touch the plants, the grass, take it all in. Try not to think about your problems, or anything. Just look and listen. Hear the calling. Maybe even go for a walk and look at the people, and for one moment, try not to think of your beliefs, pass no judgement, and see the person who they really are inside. But when it all comes down to it, are most of them really any different from yourself? If your third eye is open, then you can see all and see the truth without looking, and see beyond this world.
But, if the human race just continues as the way it has been, and can't learn to get along eventually, then they are certainly doomed.
Anyway, I'm sure 99% of you who read this are going to pass this off as "blasphemous" and probably not even read the whole thing. So I basically just wasted my time writing it, but oh well. Maybe there will be one person with just a slight thought about reconsidering in the back of their minds, but I know what kind of people I'm dealing with so I don't see it possible sadly and will probably just pay attention to the first and second paragraph. But I guess that's the way it goes: bury your doubts, thoughts, feelings, and anything that goes against your religion or beliefs? Yep.
Honestly, I see no hope for the human race.
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
11-29-2010, 04:39 AM
I believe you're confusing the Bible and the Divine Comedy.
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
11-29-2010, 04:53 AM
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I believe you're confusing the Bible and the Divine Comedy.
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It's all literature to me. Because really, anyone can make their own religion and "Bible" and get people to follow them, and believe that it's the truth. A great example of that is Mormonism and the Book of Mormon.
Anyway, you missed the entire point of that post, but like I said in the last paragraph, I know who I'm dealing with and that most of you won't read the entire thing.
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
11-29-2010, 04:55 AM
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I know who I'm dealing with and that most of you won't read the entire thing.
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That's pretty easy to say coming from someone who hasn't read the entire thing.
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
11-29-2010, 04:56 AM
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I think I'd rather worship Lucifer than God if that is the "Christian" way.
You know, there's a reason why Lucifer rebelled (along with other angels) against God, because he was obviously doing something they didn't approve of. Before that, Lucifer was one of God's favorite.
Do you know what the name Lucifer means? Light-bearer.
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Well it is your choice of course, to disobey what God commands of us and to join your devil friends in an orgy in Hell. But, don't say we didn't warn you. It's not up to you to determine whether or not God is "immoral". How can God be immoral if He made morality? Morality is defined by God.
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But enough of that story. Yes, I said it, story. You know who created God? Man did. Why else would he have "human" emotions? Like love, hatred, and jealousy? No divine being should have any sort of emotions like that, it would impair their judgement.
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You got it all twisted around. God already had so-called "human" emotions. The Bible tells us that God made man in His image.
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And why do you choose to obey the Bible?
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Why wouldn't we? When there's a choice between everlasting life and everlasting suffering, the answer to your question is quite obvious.
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When there are way older religious scriptures, and the Bible is basically a collection/rip off (that has been modified, and has added new material) of them. And if you say "well, the Bible said it is THE truth from God himself", not really, it was all written by a collection of humans. Plus, that's what basically all religions say, that their religion and scriptures are the one and only and the truth.
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The difference between the Bible and other texts is that the Bible was actually inspired by God. Yes, we know men wrote the books, but they were moved by the Holy Spirit. The author of the Koran or Dianetics or Book of Mormon were not inspired by God.
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And tell me this, did Jesus ever write a single word that was said by him in the New Testament? No, he didn't. His disciples did.
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How does that make it any less truthful? Do you automatically reject any kind of witness account if it doesn't come from the subject himself? If ten people witness a murder and say Person X was the perpetrator, do you throw their testimony out just because Person X doesn't admit to the crime?
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What's funny is, most Bibles nowadays don't contain all of the books or scriptures that were found among the other ones, so you're not getting everything.
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These books were never truly Biblical to begin with. They were heretical texts attached to the Bible. If I wrote a small piece and said that God was a five-headed giraffe that eats planets, and attached it to a Bible, it wouldn't make it part of the Bible would it?
The rest of what you have to say is just promoting nature worship and feel-good pre-packaged saccharin spirituality that's usually peddled by 40 year old blonde women in New Age shops.
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
11-29-2010, 05:41 AM
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That's pretty easy to say coming from someone who hasn't read the entire thing.
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Actually, I did read the whole thread for your information. And the reason why I'm not commenting on most of it because it's sickening how "Christ-like" Christians are. And if Christian morals are really like that, than I'm sad that I have some.
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Well it is your choice of course, to disobey what God commands of us and to join your devil friends in an orgy in Hell. But, don't say we didn't warn you. It's not up to you to determine whether or not God is "immoral". How can God be immoral if He made morality? Morality is defined by God.
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If God wants everyone to follow him, why did he give us brains? Thoughts? And "choices"?
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You got it all twisted around. God already had so-called "human" emotions. The Bible tells us that God made man in His image.
Why wouldn't we? When there's a choice between everlasting life and everlasting suffering, the answer to your question is quite obvious.
The difference between the Bible and other texts is that the Bible was actually inspired by God. Yes, we know men wrote the books, but they were moved by the Holy Spirit. The author of the Koran or Dianetics or Book of Mormon were not inspired by God.
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Because people can LIE. Or not write everything down. What if I told you I was inspired by God, no...if God came to me and told me to write all that I did? Would you believe me? Of course not! So why do you believe the ones who wrote the Bible? Just because it's in a time so far behind us, and that you actually think God told them to write it so you believe it? Anyone could have written those scriptures, what if the Devil himself wrote them?
Back in those days, the scriptures were really just used by the smarter people, to get the dumber people to be afraid, control them. Most religion was just an early form of government.
And there's no way anyone can prove that the word came from God himself. "Well no one can disprove it either", yeah, I saw it coming.
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How does that make it any less truthful? Do you automatically reject any kind of witness account if it doesn't come from the subject himself? If ten people witness a murder and say Person X was the perpetrator, do you throw their testimony out just because Person X doesn't admit to the crime?
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Sometimes I do reject it, but most of the time I'm skeptical. And what if those ten witnesses were a mob that did the murdering and framed Person X? That's why we have a justice system, though I fear it no longer serves the purpose of true justice.
There has been thousands of people that have claimed to have seen aliens more than God, do you believe them? Like I said, people can lie, and back then, I'm sure there was a whole lot of liars.
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These books were never truly Biblical to begin with. They were heretical texts attached to the Bible. If I wrote a small piece and said that God was a five-headed giraffe that eats planets, and attached it to a Bible, it wouldn't make it part of the Bible would it?
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What if that was already in the Bible and said it right in Genesis, would you believe it?
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The rest of what you have to say is just promoting nature worship and feel-good pre-packaged saccharin spirituality that's usually peddled by 40 year old blonde women in New Age shops.
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Ah, the attacking. Ok then, Christianity and the Bible is peddled by millions of people that are close minded, ignorant, and can never think for themselves because if they do, oooh God's wrath will be upon them! So they never even try to because of that thought, not to mention most are hateful. I have no hope for you silly humans.
And I'm religious in no way, mind you. I'm just spiritual, I follow no religion, and only follow what I feel in my SOUL which none of you seem to have.
And thank you for being sooo Christ-like, kind, and warm, and changing my name and avatar (though I changed my avatar back). 
You guys give me more of a reason to not go back to Christianity.
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
11-29-2010, 06:06 AM
If having a man rape your daughter is all well and good, then why is "Thou shalt not commit adultery" in the Bible?
Oh, and a message for "Pastor" Ezekiel: Your greeting, "Dear Godmocking Whore", was immature, judgmental, self-righteous, cold, heartless, and unkind (among other things). Oh, I almost forgot, it was sinful too. Even if you are a pastor, you're not God; "For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye" (Matthew 7:2-5).
As Christians, we are called to love one another, even sinners. If we don't love them, who will? Have you ever had someone be hateful to you? It certainly makes you want to avoid them. That's the vibe you all are giving off here. This is a place where I, a fellow Christian, do not feel welcome.
And we Christians wonder why we are hated so much. It's because we preach hatred. God isn't hatred, He is love. After all, "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son". He loves the world, not just his followers. Everyone. "Christians" these days are so caught up with everyone else's sins, that they overlook their own. It's God's place to judge, not our own. We are to lovingly lead people to Christ; He will deal with them after that. We are called to stand in the gap and lead people to Him, we are not called to play God and judge.
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
11-29-2010, 06:56 AM
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Oh, and a message for "Pastor" Ezekiel: Your greeting, "Dear Godmocking Whore", was immature, judgmental, self-righteous, cold, heartless, and unkind (among other things). Oh, I almost forgot, it was sinful too. Even if you are a pastor, you're not God; "For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye" (Matthew 7:2-5).
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You are misunderstanding this passage. Please read this explanation regarding it and you will see that Pastor Ezekiel is not in any way hypocritically judging. He can judge others as "Godmocking whores" because he is not a Godmocking whore.
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As Christians, we are called to love one another, even sinners. If we don't love them, who will? Have you ever had someone be hateful to you? It certainly makes you want to avoid them. That's the vibe you all are giving off here. This is a place where I, a fellow Christian, do not feel welcome.
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Where in the Bible does it command us to love sinners?
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And we Christians wonder why we are hated so much. It's because we preach hatred. God isn't hatred, He is love. After all, "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son". He loves the world, not just his followers. Everyone. "Christians" these days are so caught up with everyone else's sins, that they overlook their own.
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What I find interesting is that you end the quote midway since the second part of the verse shows that God does not love the entire world.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Notice how only those who believe in Him go to Heaven. That means the rest go to Hell. If God loves sinners, why does He condemn them to Hell?
Furthermore, there are many Bible verses that show that God does hate certain people. How can He hate them if He "loves the world"?
The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.
Psalm 5:5-6
The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence His soul hateth.
Psalm 11:5
Also, the Bible says specifically not to love the world...
1st John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
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It's God's place to judge, not our own. We are to lovingly lead people to Christ; He will deal with them after that. We are called to stand in the gap and lead people to Him, we are not called to play God and judge.
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Then why does the Bible, in many places, command us to judge others?
Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.
Proverbs 31:9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.
John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
1st Corinthians 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
1st Corinthians 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
2nd Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2nd Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
Our own Pastor Billy-Reuben sums it up quite eloquently.
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If you think the Bible forbids judging others, then you haven't read it. The Bible forbids superficial judgment based on appearances and it forbids hypocrisy, but it does not forbid judgment. On the contrary, the saved are commanded to pass judgment on others. . . .
My job as a Pastor is to find folks who are lost and to try to get them saved. That job would be made a lot harder if I were unable to judge who is lost and in need of salvation.
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
11-29-2010, 07:54 AM
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You are misunderstanding this passage. Please read this explanation regarding it and you will see that Pastor Ezekiel is not in any way hypocritically judging. He can judge others as "Godmocking whores" because he is not a Godmocking whore.
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So you're saying that I could call you anything I'm not? Pastor Ezekiel had nothing to show that proves that Alucard247 is a "Godmocking whore". Based on what you said, I could call people anything I wanted to as long as the term didn't apply to me.
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Where in the Bible does it command us to love sinners?
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In Matthew 5:43-48, Jesus says: "You have heard the law that says, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you! In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and unjust alike. If you love only those who love you, what reward is there for that? Even corrupt tax collectors do that much. If you are kind only to your friends, how are you different from anyone else? Even pagans do that. But you are to be perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect."
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What I find interesting is that you end the quote midway since the second part of the verse shows that God does not love the entire world.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Notice how only those who believe in Him go to Heaven. That means the rest go to Hell. If God loves sinners, why does He condemn them to Hell?
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I tried to speed things along. I had intended to write that post and go to bed (I have a test tomorrow), but circumstances kept me awake. I'll remember to type out the verses in full, lest you misunderstand what I'm saying.
God called us to believe in his Son. If we willingly ignore his words, we deserve to go to hell. If we happen to go to hell, it would be our fault, not God's. God doesn't condemn us to hell, he wants us to go to Heaven. Proof?: He sent his Son to die for our sins so we would be able to be with Him.
God is a just God. He doesn't force us to follow Him. He wants us to make the choice to follow Him. If we don't, it's our own fault.
2 Peter 3:9 says "The Lord isn't really being slow about his promise, as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to be destroyed, but wants everyone to repent."
No offense, Reverend, but that's an argument I hear quite often from atheists and agnostics.
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Furthermore, there are many Bible verses that show that God does hate certain people. How can He hate them if He "loves the world"?
The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.
Psalm 5:5-6
The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence His soul hateth.
Psalm 11:5
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He's God. We humans are incapable of hating without malice, but God isn't. God can hate without sinful intent, because he is God. God can hate both sin and sinner in a holy way, and yet still be willing to lovingly forgive when the sinner repents.
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Also, the Bible says specifically not to love the world...1st John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
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That is indeed correct, good sir. However, I never said that we are to love the world. I said that we Christians are to love sinners. God loved the world so much he gave his own son so that all of us could be with Him.
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Then why does the Bible, in many places, command us to judge others?
Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.
Proverbs 31:9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.
John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
1st Corinthians 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
1st Corinthians 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
2nd Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2nd Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
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The KJV means a lot of things when it uses the word "judge"/"judgement". If you take a look in a concordance, many of the words mean "discern", "evaluate", and "discriminate".
Only God can pronounce eternal judgement on someone. Humans can not correctly weigh actions or motives, only God can. This is shown in John 7:21-24:
"Jesus replied, 'I did one miracle on the Sabbath, and you were amazed. But you work on the Sabbath, too, when you obey Moses' law of circumcision. (Actually, this tradition of circumcision began with the patriarchs, long before the law of Moses.) For if the correct time for circumcising your son falls on the Sabbath, you go ahead and do it so as not to break the law of Moses. So why should you be angry with me for healing a man on the Sabbath? Look beneath the surface so you can judge correctly."
We are to called to "judge" (discern), if someone is in need of God, and lovingly show them the way. Not by condemning them, or trying to judge them on God's level (that'll just cause them to hate you, thus ruining all your hard work on helping this person).
God bless.
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
11-29-2010, 11:34 PM
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If having a man rape your daughter is all well and good, then why is "Thou shalt not commit adultery" in the Bible?
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How is inviting a visitor to rape your virgin daughter the same as committing adultery?
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
11-29-2010, 11:43 PM
Dear NegaZero,
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So you're saying that I could call you anything I'm not? Pastor Ezekiel had nothing to show that proves that Alucard247 is a "Godmocking whore". Based on what you said, I could call people anything I wanted to as long as the term didn't apply to me.
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Why are you so certain Pastor Ezekiel is mistaken? Did it occur to you he might have background information you are not aware of?
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But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you! In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven.
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What you say is irrelevant, all that matters is that what God put in the Holy Bible.
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God loved the world so much he gave his own son so that all of us could be with Him.
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"Could" being the operative word here. God knows very well not everyone will make it, which is why He created Hell.
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The KJV means a lot of things when it uses the word "judge"/"judgement". If you take a look in a concordance, many of the words mean "discern", "evaluate", and "discriminate".
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You are not supposed to substitute words. You have to take it literally. "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you." (Deuteronomy 4:2)
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We are to called to "judge" (discern), if someone is in need of God, and lovingly show them the way. Not by condemning them, or trying to judge them on God's level (that'll just cause them to hate you, thus ruining all your hard work on helping this person).
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I don't know why you add "on God's level" to this, but not only can we judge others, God even demands it from us. "In righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour." (Leviticus 19:15) "I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine." (2nd Timothy 4:1-2)
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
11-30-2010, 02:13 AM
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If having a man rape your daughter is all well and good, then why is "Thou shalt not commit adultery" in the Bible?
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Do you know what adultery is?
Adultery is when a married woman has sexual relations with someone other than her husband.
Offering one's virgin daughter (not married daughter, and not betrothed daughter) to an angry mob as a human shield/cumbucket is an accepted practice in the Bible. Lot, a righteous man, did exactly that before escaping Sodom.
His daughters then got him drunk and got themselves pregnant by him, by the way.
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This is a place where I, a fellow Christian, do not feel welcome.
And we Christians wonder why we are hated so much. It's because we preach hatred. God isn't hatred, He is love. After all, "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son". He loves the world, not just his followers. Everyone.
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I see. You're the sort of "christian" who doesn't bother to read the Bible. You quote half of John 3:16, and I bet that's the only part you know.
THOSE WHO BELIEVE may have eternal life. Not "the world".
Only believers who demonstrate that they believe through repentance -- sincerely apologizing and STOPPING SINNING --go to Heaven. Everyone else -- Buddhists, Catholics, Muslims, Jews, atheists, Secular Humanists, Wiccans, Really Nice People, Christians who continue to sin -- will be resurrected at Judgment, found not to be repentant believers, and cast into eternal torture in God's Lake of Fire.
You say "God loves everyone." Yet, the Bible tells us that all the dead remain dead and unknowing until Resurrection and Judgment.
If God loved EVERYONE, do you really think He would go to the trouble to resurrect those He will cast into Hell?
What kind of "love" is that? "I love you so much, that since you didn't obey me, I'm going to resurrect you from death so I can throw you into this lake of fire, where you will burn, alive, forever, with no possibility of escape or even death to look forward to."
Wouldn't it me more "loving" to simply leave those people dead and unknowing?
No, God HATES the sinner, and will torture the sinner for all eternity.
Please stop spreading Feelgood lies about the Lord, and read what the Bible says . . . before it is too late.
In Christ,
RevRod
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
12-02-2010, 10:37 AM
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I think I'd rather worship Lucifer than God if that is the "Christian" way.
You know, there's a reason why Lucifer rebelled (along with other angels) against God, because he was obviously doing something they didn't approve of. Before that, Lucifer was one of God's favorite.
Do you know what the name Lucifer means? Light-bearer.
But enough of that story. Yes, I said it, story. You know who created God? Man did. Why else would he have "human" emotions? Like love, hatred, and jealousy? No divine being should have any sort of emotions like that, it would impair their judgement. And why do you choose to obey the Bible? When there are way older religious scriptures, and the Bible is basically a collection/rip off (that has been modified, and has added new material) of them. And if you say "well, the Bible said it is THE truth from God himself", not really, it was all written by a collection of humans. Plus, that's what basically all religions say, that their religion and scriptures are the one and only and the truth.
And tell me this, did Jesus ever write a single word that was said by him in the New Testament? No, he didn't. His disciples did.
What's funny is, most Bibles nowadays don't contain all of the books or scriptures that were found among the other ones, so you're not getting everything.
You all, including most humans, even atheists, are blind to the greater truth. You know what and who the true God really is? Everyone, everything, the stars, the blades of grass, the soil, the universe, and nature. Most of it resonates at one pulse, and is one. But humans are still blind to this and do not realize they're apart of something greater than God, Jesus, Allah, Zeus, Ra, or any deity. Religion was made up by man because of the absence of any real laws and needed some way to get people under control.
Even though there are killings and disagreement among humans, their souls are linked, but over the years people have forced themselves to ignore that so most people can't even feel it. But they're all one consciousness and will see that this is all really just a big, major illusion they're in, hopefully.
Do you want to be truly enlightened? Step outside on a summer day (or any season you prefer), look around you, look at the birds, the trees (if you're in a city that's not very..."nature" go to a forest or somewhere), feel the energy that's in the air, touch the plants, the grass, take it all in. Try not to think about your problems, or anything. Just look and listen. Hear the calling. Maybe even go for a walk and look at the people, and for one moment, try not to think of your beliefs, pass no judgement, and see the person who they really are inside. But when it all comes down to it, are most of them really any different from yourself? If your third eye is open, then you can see all and see the truth without looking, and see beyond this world.
But, if the human race just continues as the way it has been, and can't learn to get along eventually, then they are certainly doomed.
Anyway, I'm sure 99% of you who read this are going to pass this off as "blasphemous" and probably not even read the whole thing. So I basically just wasted my time writing it, but oh well. Maybe there will be one person with just a slight thought about reconsidering in the back of their minds, but I know what kind of people I'm dealing with so I don't see it possible sadly and will probably just pay attention to the first and second paragraph. But I guess that's the way it goes: bury your doubts, thoughts, feelings, and anything that goes against your religion or beliefs? Yep.
Honestly, I see no hope for the human race.
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Bravo, Danny. Thank you for taking the time to write that out. I can see where you are coming from, and I agree with much of what you have to say. But how can one be spiritual without being religious? I think that is the major question here. And how do we treat texts outside of the canon? Is there any guiding truth there? If we accept everything as perfect-as-it-is, then what specific law should guide us? Don't we need religion to support spirituality?
Thanks for your time.
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
12-02-2010, 10:50 AM
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To be honest, i am the father of 3 daughters and yes, specifically in this case im walking in Lot's footsteps. 
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That's hot!
You dirty perv, you
Do they like it?
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
12-04-2010, 12:44 AM
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A females primary responsibility is to God to make babies. Any woman of fertile age must not waste a single moment. To waste that ability is akin to spitting in the eyes of Jesus. Making use of that ability is not abuse. Ignoring that ability is abuse!
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
12-05-2010, 12:35 AM
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To be honest, i am the father of 3 daughters and yes, specifically in this case im walking in Lot's footsteps. 
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So you give your 3 daughters to uninvited guests and then later you mate with them because this is how your daughters show their gratitude to you ?
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