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Default The REAL problem with the KKK... - 02-12-2017, 07:09 AM

is their practice of burning crosses.

Now, I don't understand the practice or its origins but I don't approve of it. As a True Christian™, I disapprove of most things I don't understand.

On the whole, Klansmen appear to be decent Christian folk but their desire to seemingly torch Baby Jesus is quite disconcerting. Burning stuff is something I'd typically associate with witches and wiccans.

For this reason, I have decided to decline an invitation to attend a meeting of the Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan next week.

I have no prior experience with the KKK. There's no chance of these gentlemen responding violently to my rejection, right?


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Default Re: The REAL problem with the KKK... - 02-12-2017, 07:57 AM

They don't burn the cross they light it so that all can see. I have seen some crosses with lights on them.

Modern Klan groups are careful to refer to their ritual as "cross lighting" rather than cross-burning and insist that their fires symbolize faith in Christ. The days of so-called disciplinary burnings, they add, are long since over.




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Modern Klan groups are careful to refer to their ritual as "cross lighting" rather than cross-burning and insist that their fires symbolize faith in Christ. The days of so-called disciplinary burnings, they add, are long since over.
Even they have succumbed to the liberal political correctness double-talk?

I'm speechless. I guess they are a leftist God-hating organization in disguise anyway.
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Even they have succumbed to the liberal political correctness double-talk?
I'm speechless. I guess they are a leftist God-hating organization in disguise anyway.
I've really been disappointed in the Klan since our President Trump was elected. They played a big role in his campaign. Possibly they put him over the top. But, they have not come forward with ideas and legislative programs to advance the cause of Jesus since then.

If they were parading in front of the Capitol, burning or lighting their crosses and carrying signs against Negroes it would give the President the public support he needs to make this a great Christian white nation again.


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Default Re: The REAL problem with the KKK... - 02-12-2017, 05:05 PM

Our esteemed Attorney General Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III has pointed out another problem with the Klan. Remember that back in the eighties, he said he thought the KKK "were OK until I found out they smoked pot.” (Source: http://www.npr.org/sections/politicaljunkie/2009/05/specter_helped_defeat_sessions.html) I'm with Sessions here - if Klansmen are regularly turning to the needle I want nothing to do with them.


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Default Re: The REAL problem with the KKK... - 02-12-2017, 06:28 PM

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I've really been disappointed in the Klan since our President Trump was elected. They played a big role in his campaign. Possibly they put him over the top. But, they have not come forward with ideas and legislative programs to advance the cause of Jesus since then.

If they were parading in front of the Capitol, burning or lighting their crosses and carrying signs against Negroes it would give the President the public support he needs to make this a great Christian white nation again.
I agree they have been a bit cowardly lately. I pray Betsy DeVos, the new and improved Secretary of Education, will continue to improve the voucher system of public education. Under this system, pesky regulations will be sloughed away and parents can choose between a wide variety of alternative facts to present to their children as True, all funded by federal taxpayer moneys. I pray we see home educators continue to bravely stand up to the tyranny of historical facts demanding attention, and provide more and more Christian friendly restored historical facts to shape children's character and faith. God Bless Bob Jones University for providing children's history homeschool books that teach children:

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Sinner Re: The REAL problem with the KKK... - 02-13-2017, 01:11 AM

The practice started after Birth of a Nation showed the KKK doing it. The symbolism was powerful, so they began doing it.
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The practice started after Birth of a Nation showed the KKK doing it. The symbolism was powerful, so they began doing it.
The practice can be traced earlier than that, friend. Belligerent, drunken Scotchmen brought it to the US when they came to the shores of the US in droves, looking for a handout and the first pub to be open 24 hours per day. When they discovered the Negro had already inundated decent society with sob story after sob story, in anticipation of Welfare, the Scotchmen were so humiliated that they decided to teach those lazy Negroes a lesson or two. You can't fault them for their pride, even if they were sore losers. Under the KKK, the practice evolved into a patriotic ritual and show of pride in a man's heritage.


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I've really been disappointed in the Klan since our President Trump was elected. They played a big role in his campaign. Possibly they put him over the top. But, they have not come forward with ideas and legislative programs to advance the cause of Jesus since then.

If they were parading in front of the Capitol, burning or lighting their crosses and carrying signs against Negroes it would give the President the public support he needs to make this a great Christian white nation again.

Excellent point and observation Brother!


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I agree they have been a bit cowardly lately. I pray Betsy DeVos, the new and improved Secretary of Education, will continue to improve the voucher system of public education. Under this system, pesky regulations will be sloughed away and parents can choose between a wide variety of alternative facts to present to their children as True, all funded by federal taxpayer moneys. I pray we see home educators continue to bravely stand up to the tyranny of historical facts demanding attention, and provide more and more Christian friendly restored historical facts to shape children's character and faith. God Bless Bob Jones University for providing children's history homeschool books that teach children:

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This whole burning cross thing has been blown way out of proportion - not to mention hyperbole. Those Scotsmen had a tradition that predated the invention of the electric light bulb, much like the first Christmas trees had candles on them (a bit of a fire hazard in today's context).

Certainly Edison's first invention was rather large and bulky - not to mention that it had to be connected to the "grid" ("mains" for the Europaeons). There has been much progress here, and the little "Italian" lights are quite pretty, along with the new LED lights that can be powered with a D-cell battery pack - perfect for easily placing on your neighbor's lawn to honor Jesus.

I have to admit though, there is something quite nostalgic about seeing a real burning cross.

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This whole burning cross thing has been blown way out of proportion - not to mention hyperbole. Those Scotsmen had a tradition that predated the invention of the electric light bulb, much like the first Christmas trees had candles on them (a bit of a fire hazard in today's context).

Certainly Edison's first invention was rather large and bulky - not to mention that it had to be connected to the "grid" ("mains" for the Europaeons). There has been much progress here, and the little "Italian" lights are quite pretty, along with the new LED lights that can be powered with a D-cell battery pack - perfect for easily placing on your neighbor's lawn to honor Jesus.

I have to admit though, there is something quite nostalgic about seeing a real burning cross.

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It seems to me that this whole business would be considerably more palatable if they were to decorate the cross with a real life Jew prior to the burning ceremony.

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Default Re: The REAL problem with the KKK... - 03-11-2017, 10:13 PM

Well, we got to undo the garbage that Obama put in place, and if the Klan can do it and obey God's laws, then who am I to stop them?


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Well, we got to undo the garbage that Obama put in place, and if the Klan can do it and obey God's laws, then who am I to stop them?
That seems a pretty sound line of reasoning right there, and as Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance, I feel I should comment.

People do get the wrong impression of the Klan - Yes there was the odd lynching in the past, accidents occurred with gasoline and houses, there may even have been the isolated example of rape without marrying the "rapee", but isn't that true of any large organization with a few over-enthusiastic members? Of course, it is - so let's not be too hasty to pass judgement.

But basically, the KKK was, and still is, a self-help, welfare association that protects a traditional way of life from exterior threats that "progress" seems to force on people without their ever being asked. A short study of its history will show that the KKK has been more sinned against than sinning.

The term is not "burning crosses", it is "lighting crosses", and (a) the cross is not real, it is a symbolic cross (b) the practice goes back to Scotland, England, where setting fire to a symbolic cross reflected the burning faith within the people and their willingness to do battle with enemies.

Now, today, these "enemies" might be poverty, disability, the homersexyurl agenda, change, unemployment, age, state interference, challenges to Christianity, etc., etc.

The benevolent society most people know as the KKK is no more than a group of like-minded people who don't need "Big Government" to solve their problems.





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People do get the wrong impression of the Klan - Yes there was the odd lynching in the past, accidents occurred with gasoline and houses, there may even have been the isolated example of rape without marrying the "rapee", but isn't that true of any large organization with a few over-enthusiastic members? Of course, it is - so let's not be too hasty to pass judgement.

But basically, the KKK was, and still is, a self-help, welfare association that protects a traditional way of life from exterior threats that "progress" seems to force on people without their ever being asked. A short study of its history will show that the KKK has been more sinned against than sinning.

The term is not "burning crosses", it is "lighting crosses", and (a) the cross is not real, it is a symbolic cross (b) the practice goes back to Scotland, England, where setting fire to a symbolic cross reflected the burning faith within the people and their willingness to do battle with enemies.

Now, today, these "enemies" might be poverty, disability, the homersexyurl agenda, change, unemployment, age, state interference, challenges to Christianity, etc., etc.

The benevolent society most people know as the KKK is no more than a group of like-minded people who don't need "Big Government" to solve their problems.
Well, thank you for explaining it in such simple terms for me! You, of course, I must not judge the KKK just by a few a little over-zealous members. How beautiful it must be to see the KKK's physical representation of their burning faith for Jesus! Thank God that they are not lukewarm (Revelation 3:16) and rather on fire for Him!


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Jesus Re: The REAL problem with the KKK... - 03-15-2017, 12:54 AM

I think the real problem is with their outfits
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Default Re: The REAL problem with the KKK... - 09-28-2022, 03:34 AM

Why does the press have a cow every time a Republican is a Klan member. It happened again in Florida.

Governor DeSantis appointed a fine politician to a County Commission post. Everyone said he was a fine choice.

Then some goody two shoes published a picture of the fellow in a Klan outfit. They also quote him as saying Governor DeSantis should not appoint a black person to the government post. For the life of me, why is dressing in a sheet so terrible?

DeSantis-appointed county commissioner resigns after alleged Ku Klux Klan picture emerges (msn.com)




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Default Re: The REAL problem with the KKK... - 09-28-2022, 10:26 AM

I thought that, in Florida, when you register as a Republican you automatically get Klan membership.

The KKK is a fine organization built on Christian family values, but honestly the costumes are a bit much. Besides, the Proud Boys and Oathkeepers and Michigan Militia are all better organized and better funded these days. So I'd say the Klan's best days are behind them, but the future is bright for the armed forces of the Republican party.


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