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Default Did a Pastor really wear these... IN CHURCH! - 11-18-2022, 04:34 PM

The Mayor pointed out this article in The Christian Post the other day, and I decided it needed a comment from Landover:

You will note from the picture that the "preacher" is a fellow of color and those people have a tendency to go in for that sort of thing. I'm not sure that it's not bred into them - I suppose "look-at-me" clothes cut down the number of hunting accidents in the jungle and if they also encourage "loose behavior", well, that only fits into the style of a race known for collecting paternity orders.

So I thought of a few Bible verses that would help us understand how God sees fashion and how a pastor should conduct himself:

M't:23:1: Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
M't:23:2: Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
M't:23:3: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
M't:23:4: For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

Basically this means that they "talk the talk but don't walk the walk", as young people say nowadays. Jesus then went on (as He often did):

M't:23:5: But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments.

Now, I don't know about you, but I can't get too excited about broad phylacteries - I can see a use for them. That said, "and enlarge the borders of their garments" is pretty explicit. Jesus is giving a lesson here.

Obviously, we may understand that in the Holy Land, at that time, if you walked around with an embiggened border, you had to beat the women off with a stick. This causes all manner of social problems and results in "The Woman taken in Adultery" John 7:53–8:11.

Fashion, style and dress are all important to a figure of great importance like a Pastor - the word we are looking for is "conservative" - or to put it another way "Republican" - not given to the whims of youth and the times but guided by and guiding an altogether more graceful time in the past when everything was so much better.

A Church is like unto a small part of Paradise wherein everything is "just right" - if a wildly attired blackman rushes the stage and starts screaming gibberish, we can't imagine that that will bring anyone nearer to God, can we? I can't.

Advice is also given to men about how their women shall appear:

1Tm:2:9: In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
1Ti:2:10: Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.

Yet, regrettably, fashion tips in The New Testament of the Bible are rare. Back in the OT, fashion was usually reserved for kings who doubtless had advisers to keep everything "tasteful", and that is where we want to be when we are in church.

The idea is to "adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things" and I can't see Jesus in Skinny jeans, no matter how hard I try.





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. . . I can't see Jesus in Skinny jeans, no matter how hard I try.
I mostly picture Him in that loincloth.


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I mostly picture Him in that loincloth.
Well, that would be at His Crucifixion - an event that demands cooler clothing - something informal and yet concealing.





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The Mayor pointed out this article in The Christian Post the other day, and I decided it needed a comment from Landover:


M't:23:5: But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments.
Now, I don't know about you, but I can't get too excited about broad phylacteries - I can see a use for them. That said, "and enlarge the borders of their garments" is pretty explicit. Jesus is giving a lesson here.

Fashion, style and dress are all important to a figure of great importance like a Pastor - the word we are looking for is "conservative" - or to put it another way "Republican" - not given to the whims of youth and the times but guided by and guiding an altogether more graceful time in the past when everything was so much better.
Advice is also given to men about how their women shall appear:
1Tm:2:9: In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
1Ti:2:10: Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.

The idea is to "adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things" and I can't see Jesus on Skinny jeans, no matter how hard I try.
I agree with that, Pastor. It still leaves us with room to discuss what pastors might wear while off duty, during leisure time. For example, in Acts 9:43, Peter kicks back for a weekend of fun in Joppa with Simon the Tanner.

We don't know what the two gentlemen did for fun but perhaps we can speculate a bit. Before going out on the town they may have dressed in that period's equivalent of skinny jeans.

Our own Pastor Zeke is a stunningly handsome man and does kick back and have fun during his infrequent breaks from preaching. He is quite secretive about his down time activities so I don't know how he spends this time. I have seen his house boys wearing skinny jeans and wonder if Pastor Zeke owns a few pair himself.


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Our own Pastor Zeke is a stunningly handsome man and does kick back and have fun during his infrequent breaks from preaching. He is quite secretive about his down time activities so I don't know how he spends this time. I have seen his house boys wearing skinny jeans and wonder if Pastor Zeke owns a few pair himself.

If Zeke is going by Luke 3:11 then it's no surprise these houseboys are clad in his skinny jeans. There's no need to question it, really.


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If Zeke is going by Luke 3:11 then it's no surprise these houseboys are clad in his skinny jeans. There's no need to question it, really.
I have to agree with you. Ladies go crazy over skinny jeans so it could be Pastor Zeke and the houseboys are enjoying the company of such young ladies. I'd advise not speculating further.


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