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Re: Beaver juice disproves evolution -
12-05-2007, 07:23 AM
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This is further proof that evilutionists are hate-filled racists.
I would say that the infant mortality rate, average body weight and lifespan on the dark continent of africa has actually diminished over the past 6,000 years. Those jungle bunnies and spear chuckers drop like flies without a decent pot roast dinner in their bellies, and without the love of Jesus.
We don't take kindly to racist remarks like that, VanNigrahater.
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Wouldn't using terms like jungle bunnies and spear chuckers be racist speach? You are after all using these derogatory terms to describe huge populations of which you have no personal knowledge or experience just because they are of a different race than yourself. Or do you only distain racism from outsiders while praising it from your own.
If God wants to condemn someone that is his choice and his alone. I have seen posts on this forum advocating the murder of pretty much everyone except white American southern baptists. Jesus said, "Let he who is without sin cast the 1st stone." I seriously doubt that is anyone of flesh and bone. Jesus preaches about love and good deeds. Many comments I have seen here are completely the opposite of his teachings and come off as quite racist. The KKK avatar one of your honored pastors uses does nothing to dispel this image of intollerance and racism.
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Re: Beaver juice disproves evolution -
12-05-2007, 07:55 AM
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Wouldn't using terms like jungle bunnies and spear chuckers be racist speach?
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Are you claiming that native Africans neither hop around in the jungle nor chuck spears?
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If God wants to condemn someone that is his choice and his alone.
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God doesn't condemn anyone. Unrepentant sinners condemn themselves. Sinners have free will to accept or reject God's gift of salvation.
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I have seen posts on this forum advocating the murder of pretty much everyone except white American southern baptists.
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You are mistaken. You may have seen advocation of capital punishment, for sins that God declared to warrant capital punishment, but I can guarantee that you have not seen advocation of murder. Murder is a sin.
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Jesus said, "Let he who is without sin cast the 1st stone."
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Amen. He also said that when we are saved, our sin is washed away. Saved Christians are without sin.
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I seriously doubt that is anyone of flesh and bone.
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We are all flesh, bone, and spirit.
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Jesus preaches about love and good deeds. Many comments I have seen here are completely the opposite of his teachings and come off as quite racist.
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If we are in error, please cite in-context scripture to back up your claim. We aim to follow all of the Bible's teachings, so we will be grateful if you could help us perfect our ways.
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The KKK avatar one of your honored pastors uses does nothing to dispel this image of intollerance and racism.
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None of our Pastors has a KKK avatar. He wears the traditional Landover Baptist security detail uniform, with the flame retardant hood and robe, which predates the KKK by a couple of centuries.
Learn some history. Please tell me you aren't some bigot who judges people by their appearance.
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Re: Beaver juice disproves evolution -
12-05-2007, 04:43 PM
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Are you claiming that native Africans neither hop around in the jungle nor chuck spears?
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A vast majority of Africans are not as you describe, so yes that is what I am saying. Using a blanket derogatory term against a particular people is racist no matter how you cut it. While there are some who live in poverty in the harsh environment I hardly would call that hopping or being a bunny.
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God doesn't condemn anyone. Unrepentant sinners condemn themselves. Sinners have free will to accept or reject God's gift of salvation.
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If that is what you believe to be true then people will condemn themselves. There is not need for you to advocate their slaughter. Any way you cut it that would be murder. Murder is a sin.
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You are mistaken. You may have seen advocation of capital punishment, for sins that God declared to warrant capital punishment, but I can guarantee that you have not seen advocation of murder. Murder is a sin.
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I have members advocate the slaughter of New Zealand, Iraq, Germany, Japan, all catholics, all muslims, all jews, you children if you think they might grow up gay, and communists. I already know what you think of other religeons, so I will not bother fighting that useless battle. But, advocating the extermination of entire countries is not murder in your eyes? That is just plain sickening.
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Amen. He also said that when we are saved, our sin is washed away. Saved Christians are without sin.
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Other than numerous quotes saying Jesus is the only perfect person without sin in this world, what are you really looking for. You are saying you are now on equal footing with Jesus? I would think that to be a sin given the whole "false idols" part of the 10 commandments.
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We are all flesh, bone, and spirit.
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And, that means we are all prone to err.
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If we are in error, please cite in-context scripture to back up your claim. We aim to follow all of the Bible's teachings, so we will be grateful if you could help us perfect our ways.
Proverbs 9:8b Rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.
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I guess I could say just read the new testament, but I guess I will need to lay a couple out for you.
(1 John 3:18) Let us love, not in word or speech, but in truth and action.
(Matthew 5:44) Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you. (Notice there is nothing about killing your enemy here.)
(Leviticus 19:18) Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
(1 John 4:20) If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen. (This seems to get at the heart of our little disagreement.)
(Proverbs 29:11) A fool gives full vent to his anger, but a wise man keeps himself under control.
These are messages of love and pease even with your enemies. It is not about killing, hate, and anger.
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None of our Pastors has a KKK avatar. He wears the traditional Landover Baptist security detail uniform, with the flame retardant hood and robe, which predates the KKK by a couple of centuries.
Learn some history. Please tell me you aren't some bigot who judges people by their appearance.
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You mean as you judge people who are dark of skin based on appearance? I have seen what you teach about them. They have to be sponcored to become honorary ex-negros and eventually honorary white men. That shows a complete distain for people based on the color of their skin which is just another example of racism. Why should someone be taught to hate their color before you will accept them?
Here is a picture I found of a KKK rally (face covers up). Please explain how his avatar and this uniform differ. They even have the same symbol on the chest. His avatar clearly shows a klansman riding a horse.
This is a uniform of intollerance and hate.
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Re: Beaver juice disproves evolution -
12-05-2007, 06:05 PM
I forgot to add the sale of endulgences is also a bit shaddy. Telling people they will be saved as long as they click paypal is not something I was able to find anywhere in the Bible.
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12-05-2007, 06:34 PM
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I forgot to add the sale of endulgences is also a bit shaddy.
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Pardon me, Mr Two-headed Turtle. This is not the Catholic Church.
We're not selling letters of indulgence - we're simply advocating good works as the means of our salvation. It's only fair that every Christian should re-pay a little to Jesus' favorite church, "as God hath prospered him".
I myself have written a modest monograph in the hopes of helping new members: How much should I tithe?
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Telling people they will be saved as long as they click paypal is not something I was able to find anywhere in the Bible.
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Re: Beaver juice disproves evolution -
12-05-2007, 06:49 PM
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A vast majority of Africans are not as you describe, so yes that is what I am saying.
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But some of them are. Therefore you are wrong.
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advocating the extermination of entire countries is not murder in your eyes?
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So advocating the extermination of an entire country is murder.
Have you read Numbers or Joshua? God commanded the extermination of entire countries in those books. Would you presume to judge God's actions as murder?
Don't try to twist this into me comparing myself to God. I'm not. I'm not even admitting that anyone here has advocated the extermination of an entire country. I just want to see if you really believe that it is always considered murder to merely advocate the extermination of a country. Please just answer that question and don't go off on tangents.
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Other than numerous quotes saying Jesus is the only perfect person without sin in this world, what are you really looking for. You are saying you are now on equal footing with Jesus?
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Of course not. Jesus never sinned. I have sinned, but my sins are washed away. They are gone, and I am without sin now.
1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
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I would think that to be a sin given the whole "false idols" part of the 10 commandments.
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That sentence makes no sense at all. Pride is a sin (Mark 7:22), but I don't understand what any of this has to do with "false idols". I don't think you even understand the term.
By the way, lest you think you have "got me", I am not committing the sin of pride when I say that I know for certain that I am saved or that I know my sins have been washed away. I can't claim any credit for it. God did it all, and I am thankful to Him.
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I guess I could say just read the new testament, but I guess I will need to lay a couple out for you.
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I am a church pastor, so you could say I've studied the New Testament a time or two. I don't see anything in the verses you posted that say we are doing anything wrong.
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(1 John 3:18) Let us love, not in word or speech, but in truth and action.
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You have taken this verse out of context. This verse is talking about how we should love God.
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(Matthew 5:44) Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you. (Notice there is nothing about killing your enemy here.)
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We do all of that, friend. I love my own enemies and would never kill any of them. When God, however, commands us to kill HIS enemies, I'm not going to stand around slack-jawed like King Saul.
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(Leviticus 19:18) Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
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Why don't you post the whole verse, instead of extracting part of a sentence out of context? You left out the part that defines the term "neighbour".
Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.
We all love our neighbours (fellow Christians) as we love ourselves.
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(1 John 4:20) If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen. (This seems to get at the heart of our little disagreement.)
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Then we have no disagreement, friend. We Christians are all brothers, and we all love each other.
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(Proverbs 29:11) A fool gives full vent to his anger, but a wise man keeps himself under control.
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Amen! I haven't been angry since I got saved. I doubt that you will find anything that any of us have posted in anger.
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These are messages of love and pease even with your enemies. It is not about killing, hate, and anger.
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I've already addressed the part about anger and killing. I do love my own enemies and try to make peace. I do not hate anyone.
God never commands us to love or make peace with HIS enemies, however.
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Here is a picture I found of a KKK rally (face covers up). Please explain how his avatar and this uniform differ.
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Unfortunately, they don't differ. The KKK copied our uniform and are trying to twist it into something ugly. We refuse to change our uniforms in response, because that would mean they win.
Again, you are judging based on appearances.
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Re: Beaver juice disproves evolution -
12-05-2007, 06:51 PM
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You mean as you judge people who are dark of skin based on appearance? I have seen what you teach about them. They have to be sponcored to become honorary ex-negros and eventually honorary white men. That shows a complete distain for people based on the color of their skin which is just another example of racism. Why should someone be taught to hate their color before you will accept them?
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We don't hate the color. It's just that so many of the nigra in america are unwashed,fornicating,thiefing,murdering, drug using and pushing tools of Satan that people think we are racists. We all know of a few good christian darkies, thats both your nigras and your wetbacks. But since they has come from those who have murdered in the bible, CAIN, and been born out of wedlock,ISMAIL, that they just can't help but be stupid and useless to the rest of us.
For while we are all fallen from the first,original sin, God has darken them to warn us of there sinful,CAIN and ISMAIL, heritage. We can all just pray that the darkies will come to the true light of Jesus and forsake there fornicating, sinful ways.
So how can this be racist. Its you who are the real racist. For you want them to remain in there filthy ways so you can feel superior to them.
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Re: Beaver juice disproves evolution -
12-05-2007, 08:50 PM
lord warrior, you are piffleing a 13 year old. get over yourself.
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Re: Beaver juice disproves evolution -
12-05-2007, 11:00 PM
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I forgot to add the sale of endulgences is also a bit shaddy. Telling people they will be saved as long as they click paypal is not something I was able to find anywhere in the Bible.
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12-05-2007, 11:15 PM
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Pardon me, Mr Two-headed Turtle. This is not the Catholic Church.
We're not selling letters of indulgence - we're simply advocating good works as the means of our salvation. It's only fair that every Christian should re-pay a little to Jesus' favorite church, "as God hath prospered him".
I myself have written a modest monograph in the hopes of helping new members: How much should I tithe?
Look again. Try Acts 5:1-11
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Acts 5:1-11 refers to tithing the appropriate 10% and lying about how much they had in order to tithe less. It covers dishonesty more than anything else. It has nothing to do with assuring their spot in heaven as long as they give your church enough money.
As for never selling endulgences... The thread I was referencing was conveniently deleted. A woman whose daughter was lesbian was told as long as she gave generously through paypal that would buy her way into heaven. That is the definition of endulgence.
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12-05-2007, 11:20 PM
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We don't hate the color. It's just that so many of the nigra in america are unwashed,fornicating,thiefing,murdering, drug using and pushing tools of Satan that people think we are racists. We all know of a few good christian darkies, thats both your nigras and your wetbacks. But since they has come from those who have murdered in the bible, CAIN, and been born out of wedlock,ISMAIL, that they just can't help but be stupid and useless to the rest of us.
For while we are all fallen from the first,original sin, God has darken them to warn us of there sinful,CAIN and ISMAIL, heritage. We can all just pray that the darkies will come to the true light of Jesus and forsake there fornicating, sinful ways.
So how can this be racist. Its you who are the real racist. For you want them to remain in there filthy ways so you can feel superior to them.
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I have never once said I am better than anyone based on something as stupid as the color of my skin. So, your accusation is incorrect. This person and yourself on the other hand... Very racist. You claim superiority based on where someone was born or what color their skin is. That is racism down to its very core.
I will respond to the much longer posts when I have more time.
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12-05-2007, 11:22 PM
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A woman whose daughter was lesbian was told as long as she gave generously through paypal that would buy her way into heaven. That is the definition of endulgence.
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It worked for my daughter, and she was dating a GOTH!!!
That's far worse than being a Lezbeen
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12-05-2007, 11:45 PM
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It worked for my daughter, and she was dating a GOTH!!!
That's far worse than being a Lezbeen
Pastor says extra Prayers for her now so I know she's going to be Saved.
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12-06-2007, 03:06 AM
And, my 2-headed turtle is cute. I found him on Yahoo news about 2 months ago.
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12-06-2007, 03:11 AM
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Lol, I just wiki'd you. I knew people couldn't really be that mormonic.
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Wikipedia is run by atheists who hacked the page to claim we are a par ody. Here is a link to the version of the Landover Baptist Wikipedia article before the vandals got a hold of it.
Please read the FAQ, as you obviously have not. You'll find the link in my signature.
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Re: Beaver juice disproves evolution -
12-06-2007, 05:16 AM
I find the arguments I have run into on this forum so cartoonish I had no choice but to believe it to be a parody. Serously, who else would be dumb enough to trash 3 different races and threaten to nuke anyone who doesn't agree with them while claiming to anyone who finds that to be offensive a racist?
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12-06-2007, 05:33 AM
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I find the arguments I have run into on this forum so cartoonish I had no choice but to believe it to be a parody. Serously, who else would be dumb enough to trash 3 different races and threaten to nuke anyone who doesn't agree with them while claiming to anyone who finds that to be offensive a racist?
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If you think we are "fringe" or "extremist", please read this thread. If you had read the FAQ, like I asked you to, you would have already known to read that thread. I suppose you prefer to wallow in ignorance.
You can't read a simple FAQ before asking the same questions that have already been asked and answered over and over, and you have the audacity to call someone else "dumb". Hypocrite.
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12-12-2007, 11:03 PM
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Well I never!!
To be honest with you I've yet to see a Beaver that has any Testicles at all so I guess this only goes to prove we are 100% correct yet again!
I'd like to attend one of the Pastors beaver Hunting expeditions although I'm always told that ladies aren't allowed to go.
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How many times have you lifted a beavers leg and looked???
Also,that picture isnt a beaver....beavers dont(and to my knowladge) have never looked like wolfs...also a beaver is not 4 feet tall and 3 feet long....The picture of the guy shooting the "beaver" with a bow,thats a huge weasle dude.
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12-12-2007, 11:14 PM
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Wikipedia is run by atheists who hacked the page to claim we are a par ody. Here is a link to the version of the Landover Baptist Wikipedia article before the vandals got a hold of it.
Please read the FAQ, as you obviously have not. You'll find the link in my signature.
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The parodic one is real,the one you put up is fake....Do you want to know how I figured that out? You used to much of the human element....Wikipieda just gives cold hard facts,you were praising yourselfs *cough cough* =gods favorite church....opionion,not a fact. I knew this place was just for fun!
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12-12-2007, 11:25 PM
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The parodic one is real,the one you put up is fake
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Par ody is real, reality is fake -- do you think with that brain?
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Right... Wikipedia is just a bastion of objectivity.
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I knew this place was just for fun!
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This forum is absolutely not "just for fun". We are serious folks with a serious mission.
I'm a busy man with a lot to do outside of this forum. The reason I participate here is because we are making a difference. We are helping folks to understand the true nature of God and religion, and several people have become Saved as a result of our work here.
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