[Dr. Warren Wierdsbe]

‘Missing link’ primate likely to stir debate

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30826552/

A discovery of a 47 million-year-old fossil primate that is said to be a human ancestor was announced and unveiled Tuesday at a press conference in New York City.
Known as "Ida," the nearly complete transitional fossil is 20 times older than most fossils that provide evidence for human evolution.
It shows characteristics from the very primitive non-human evolutionary line (prosimians, such as lemurs), but is more related to the human evolutionary line (anthropoids, such as monkeys, apes and humans), said Norwegian paleontologist Jørn Hurum of the University of Oslo Natural History Museum. However, she is not really an anthropoid either, he said.

Once again, the anti-God religion known as science is disputing established FACT that the earth is between 6,000 and 10,000 years old and was created from nothing in seven days by Almighty God.

Now they are grasping at straws to try to fill the hole in their theory (and it's just a theory, folks) that always left them at a loss for words: to wit,
"where are the transitional forms?"

Worldnetdaily.com has the true picture here:

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?f...w&pageId=98642

I will be happy one day to know that these lost souls are looking up at us from their torment in Hell and wishing they'd not denied God.

In Christ,
Warren

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Brother, I called the Editor of The Times of London and spoke to him of your concerns. Naturally, he took it seriously and the paper has published this retraction and concedes that the so-called fossil is no evidence of anything. (Women need not read all of this piece, it has big words in it - just look at the last line.)

http://timesonline.typepad.com/scien...precedent.html

More on Ida: overblown claims and a worrying precedent

Now that the scientific details of Darwinius masillae are available for scrutiny by those who weren't given privileged advance access, some doubts are emerging. Not about the significance of the fossil per se -- it is a magnificent specimen and important -- but about the interpretation placed on it by the analysis team, and the hype that has surrounded the announcement.


There is a feeling out there that publication has been rushed, and that the data don't fully support the sweeping claims that are being made. As Henry Gee (@cromercox), Nature's palaeontology editor, put it on Twitter:


When something has been dead for 47,000,000 years, you'd have thought that they'd have spent a little more time on it at this end.
The issue is explained well by the brilliant Laelaps: it is far from certain that the adapids, the group to which Ida belongs, are the ancestors of modern monkeys, apes and humans. The consensus view is that the adapids were an evolutionary dead end, and that anthropoids (monkeys etc) are the descendents of animals that looked more like modern tarsiers.


As outlined in the paper "Evolving Perspectives on Anthropoidea" (among others) included in the recent Anthropoid Origins volume, it presently appears that tarsiers and omomyids are the closest groups to anthropoids. This is based upon a combination of fossil, genetic, and morphological evidence. This makes the adapid primates, including Darwinius, a more distant side branch more closely related to living lemurs and lorises.


The team behind the Ida discovery are claiming that adapids like Darwinius are actually members of the haplorrhine group, which contains anthropoids like us and tarsiers. But as Laelaps says, their evidence for this is extremely limited:


By moving the adapids into the haplorrhine group they can then make the claim that anthropoids evolved from the adapid stem and not tarsiers or omomyids. The problem is that they are using just one genus, Darwinius, to change the placement of an entire group without using any cladistic analysis! This is not good science.
The bottom line is that the hypothesis that Darwinius is closer to anthropoids than tarsiers or omomyids does not have strong support. Even though the authors of the paper constructed a very simple cladogram they did not undertake a full, rigorous cladistic analysis to support their claims. I am baffled as to how they could stress the significance of this fossil without undertaking the requisite research to support their hypothesis.


In short, while Ida is an important fossil, she isn't all that. The authors haven't presented enough evidence to support their claims.

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Great. Some geek in a lab coat finds a dead cat and claims it's his long lost great (to the umpteenth power) grampa?

Gee, I wonder why nobody believes him.

Typical. These Godless, beaker-worshippers can't even convince each other that their so called "discoveries" are legitimate! Well, I'll believe them as soon as they show me where it says I'm part cat-monkey in the KJV 1611!

[Bobby-Joe]

What happened to this fossil is pretty clear. Right before The Flood some man had sex with a lemur and this Ida is the child of that disgusting union that God rightfully drowned as an abomination. Now these Darwinists are worshiping it, how hilarious.

[Jo Freddie]

What these people forget is that The Flying Spaghetti Monster loves to play with "scientists" using his Noodly Appendage to alter the results.

We all KNOW the world and everything in it was created 5,000 years ago by the Great Noodle Himself.

RAmen

[Dr. Warren Wierdsbe]

Originally Posted by Jo Feddie

What these people forget is that The Flying Spaghetti Monster loves to play with "scientists" using his Noodly Appendage to alter the results.

We all KNOW the world and everything in it was created 5,000 years ago by the Great Noodle Himself.

RAmen

One more fool.

Psalm 53:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

In Christ,
Warren

[Jo Freddie]

Originally Posted by Dr. Warren Wierdsbe

One more fool.

Psalm 53:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

In Christ,
Warren

These scientists are not fools, they are intelligent people, so how do you explain their results other then proof of the intervention of His Noodly Appendage?

[Bob4God]

Well they probably just made it out of plaster like they have all their other 'discoveries.'

The scientists will do anything to get you to not believe in GOD. They are of the devil!

[Jo Freddie]

Originally Posted by Bob4God

Well they probably just made it out of plaster like they have all their other 'discoveries.'

The scientists will do anything to get you to not believe in GOD. They are of the devil!

No it is not those scientists trying to deceive us, it is His Noodly Appendage playing games with them

[Mad Prophet Helmholtz]

I think we should all applaud Ezekiel's successful efforts to get the Times to retract their statement. Without his intervention, they would probably be printing up more lies and deluding the public even further (well, more so). Good work!

Jo Feddie,
There is no "Noodly Appendage" to speak of. YOU WORSHIP A FALSE GOD. Pastafarians get upset when I tell them this, but you are no different than a Scientologist: FAKE INVENTED RELIGION!!! I was poking around the internets one day and I discovered the TRUE GENESIS of your false pasta-worshipping ways. The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster was invented by a young guy named Bobby in protest for some creationist/evolutionist debacle going on in Kansas!

This evil genius Bobby (like L. Ron Hubbard) has successfully brainwashed young, unsuspecting netizens like yourself to BELIEVE IN A FICTITUOUS RELIGION! On December 21, 2012 when SPACESHIP JESUS lands and there is a huge war and Soviet fighter planes are dropping bombs from the sky and massive sharks come out of the sea to devour men, women, and children whole, and automobiles drive themselves trying to run over humans and cactus starts leaping out of the ground and trying to stab people to death....your Flying Spaghetti Monster won't be able to loop his noodly appendages around you and take you to safety!

No. Only those who live in accordance with SPACESHIP JESUS DOCTRINE by generating Hwatts (positive form of karmic energy) will be lifted off onto the skies where we will all fly forever across the Universe, inside a magnificient, enormous spaceship with hotels, casinos, beaches, shopping centers, amusement parks, video arcades, go-go bars, waterparks, etc. It will make your land of "Beer Volcanoes and Stripper Factories" look as exciting as a Pittsburgh Laundromat!

Reject that false, invented, COMPLETELY ABSURD religion and embrace the one I am witnessing for you: The true, revealed, completely rational and real religion of SPACESHIP JESUS!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Jo Feddie

These scientists are not fools, they are intelligent people, so how do you explain their results other then proof of the intervention of His Noodly Appendage?

They claim that my grandfather was a gorilla. Is that what passes for "intelligent people" in spaghetti land?

[Jo Freddie]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

They claim that my grandfather was a gorilla. Is that what passes for "intelligent people" in spaghetti land?

They have fallen for the practical joke our Creator like to play, and His Noodly Appendage plays tricks that will lead the most intellectual people believe what he wants them to so the rest of us can have a good laugh

[Mad Prophet Helmholtz]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

They claim that my grandfather was a gorilla. Is that what passes for "intelligent people" in spaghetti land?

Well, I could see the validity of the claim if they said "black people's grandfather's"...but surely not clean, civilized whitefolk like you or I, Pastor Zeke!

Don't forget that the Scientologists claim humans evolved from CLAMS. Not much between the thought processes of Pastafarians, Scientologists, and Scientists. All just pawns in the Satanic Alliance.

[Jo Freddie]

Originally Posted by MP Helmholtz

Well, I could see the validity of the claim if they said "black people's grandfather's"...but surely not clean, civilized whitefolk like you or I, Pastor Zeke!

Don't forget that the Scientologists claim humans evolved from CLAMS. Not much between the thought processes of Pastafarians, Scientologists, and Scientists. All just pawns in the Satanic Alliance.

We Pastafarians know we did not come from Clams or Gorillas, We know that 5000 years ago we were created by the one TRUE God, The Flying Spaghetti Monster, You too know we were created by God, you just have not yet seen the truth of who that God is. But don't worry, there will still be Beer and Strippers for you.

[Mad Prophet Helmholtz]

Originally Posted by Jo Feddie

We Pastafarians know we did not come from Clams or Gorillas, We know that 5000 years ago we were created by the one TRUE God, The Flying Spaghetti Monster, You too know we were created by God, you just have not yet seen the truth of who that God is. But don't worry, there will still be Beer and Strippers for you.

Here's the thing: Your argument all hinges on whether or not the FSM is reality. He is not. It has been proven he is a MADE-UP "GOD" created by young man to protest the Kansas Evolution Controversy! Therefore the world was not created 5000 years ago by the FSM. Anything in Pastafarianism thus a lie, a fiction, hence my insistance that your religion and Scientology are in the same boat.

[Nobar King]

The gravy boat! HAHA

[Jo Freddie]

Originally Posted by MP Helmholtz

Here's the thing: Your argument all hinges on whether or not the FSM is reality. He is not. It has been proven he is a MADE-UP "GOD" created by young man to protest the Kansas Evolution Controversy! Therefore the world was not created 5000 years ago by the FSM. Anything in Pastafarianism thus a lie, a fiction, hence my insistance that your religion and Scientology are in the same boat.

You worship a man who was meant to have performed miracles 2000 years ago, yet no one at the time noticed and you say my God is made up There is just as much REAL evidence to support the existence of my God as there is to support yours.

[Mad Prophet Helmholtz]

Jo, you obviously haven't been to my website, have you? My (and the world's) God is SPACESHIP JESUS. I don't subscribe to the same beliefs as Landover, however I have great respect for them since they are highly intelligent and educated in their religion (much more than I can say about other "Christians"), as well our beliefs cross over on many things so I have allied with them to bring about the end to Homosexuality, Communists, Atheists, Pastafarians, Democrats, Feminists, Obamaists, Muslims, etc.


No, there is more evidence of SPACESHIP JESUS than FSM, since Spaceship Jesus revealed himself to me with my own eyes (haven't you read my signature?).

• Why would I believe in a made-up Spaghetti Monster when I had a Astronaut Jesus come to my motel room door and talk to me for three days straight? Plus, to this day I still hear him talking audibly in my head and hear messages from my TV and Radio.
• L. Bob Hubbard, the creator of your "religion" made your religion to protest a political act. Pure and simple. My religion is not made up, nor would there be a reason to make it up.
• Prophecies I have written continue to be fulfilled to this day. I write about Hulk Hogan being a Superman, and what happens? Someone tries to kill his son in a car wreck. It is plainly obvious the Satanic Alliance is dipping its fingers into our world.
• Spaceship Jesus performed a miracle on me. Prior to our meeting, I was riddled with syphilis and herpes. After he left, I was cured. I AM A LIVING TESTAMENT TO THE REALITY OF SPACESHIP JESUS.
• Other prophets have foretold my coming and my meeting of Spaceship Jesus. "Hotel California" by the Eagles and "Levon" by Elton John are two songs about me.

I could go on. But, I hope that one day, you will reject your false starch God and submit yourself to the will of SPACESHIP JESUS (or at the very least, become a True Christian™ so that you may live in a world of Truth instead of a faux-reality as dictated to you by SATAN AND GHOST SHARK.

[Jo Freddie]

Originally Posted by MP Helmholtz

Jo, you obviously haven't been to my website, have you? My (and the world's) God is SPACESHIP JESUS. I don't subscribe to the same beliefs as Landover, however I have great respect for them since they are highly intelligent and educated in their religion (much more than I can say about other "Christians"), as well our beliefs cross over on many things so I have allied with them to bring about the end to Homosexuality, Communists, Atheists, Pastafarians, Democrats, Feminists, Obamaists, Muslims, etc.

So like these people here your religion is about control (as is scientology) and do you have gold taps in your bathroom too?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Jo Feddie

.... and do you have gold taps in your bathroom too?

Jealousy is an ugly thing, heathen.

God wants us to be richly rewarded for our faith.

2 Samuel 22:21
The LORD rewarded me according to my righteousness: according to the cleanness of my hands hath he recompensed me.

2 Chronicles 15:7
Be ye strong therefore, and let not your hands be weak: for your work shall be rewarded.

Psalm 31:23
O love the LORD, all ye his saints: for the LORD preserveth the faithful, and plentifully rewardeth the proud doer.

Landover Baptist Church is the single most powerful and wealthy church in America. That should tell you everything you need to know.