[Trent Harvey, Jr.]

Originally Posted by JSFinta

Just don't fall into the traps of percecuting a whole sub-culture/religon just because you don't agree with them.

So you ADMIT that goth is a religion!

PS. how is it a "trap"? Random arrest, internment, and torture of socially unpopular brown people at home and abroad hasn't hurt us in any way, so why should expanding that treatment to socially unpopular pasty-white freakish eunucks at home and abroad be any different?

[JSFinta]

Originally Posted by Trent Harvey, Jr.

So you ADMIT that goth is a religion!

PS. how is it a "trap"? Random arrest, internment, and torture of socially unpopular brown people at home and abroad hasn't hurt us in any way, so why should expanding that treatment to socially unpopular pasty-white freakish eunucks at home and abroad be any different?

Perhaps I should've worded that better, but goth is not a religon. I will not however deny that it has nothing to with religon.

And also I take it human rights are irelevant? Victory by any means nesesary?

[Trent Harvey, Jr.]

Originally Posted by JSFinta

And also I take it human rights are irelevant? Victory by any means nesesary?

DUH!

Have you ever listened to a single word a single republican has said in the past 7 years?

[JSFinta]

Originally Posted by Trent Harvey, Jr.

DUH!

Have you ever listened to a single word a single republican has said in the past 7 years?

Not really. Although perhaps we can agree on something; Human rights should be for those that are truly human. Not for some uncaring filth that have the audacity to try calling themselves human.

How does that sound?

[Deaner]

Originally Posted by JSFinta

Human rights should be for those that are truly human. Not for some uncaring filth that have the audacity to try calling themselves human.

That's what we've been telling you all along; goth's are uncaring filth. And not too bright either piercing their eyes and face with metal screws.

[JennyD]

Originally Posted by JSFinta

Not really. Although perhaps we can agree on something; Human rights should be for those that are truly human. Not for some uncaring filth that have the audacity to try calling themselves human.

How does that sound?

Does that mean you've decided to give up Gothness and become a True Christian™?

GLORY!

[shadow's slut (Quarantined)]

Originally Posted by Deaner

That's what we've been telling you all along; goth's are uncaring filth. And not too bright either piercing their eyes and face with metal screws.

Not all do that, Deaner. Some, like me, won't touch a piercing needle. I do have my ears pierced but none of that was my choice. It was done when I was a baby. about 16 months I think.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Originally Posted by JSFinta

I am going to asume that this is a rather stupid thing to ask, but why can't goths be left be? The vast majority would rather be left be, and carry on with our lives.

Yet oddly enough, here you are refusing to leave us be. Every gothic who posts here is a vile hypocrite.

[snottyduck]

I'm a Goth and I don't have piercings either, like everything in Goth, getting piercings is your own free choice If you don't like it then you not obliged to get one. Simple as that.

[VictoryOS]

Originally Posted by snottyduck

I'm a Goth and I don't have piercings either, like everything in Goth, getting piercings is your own free choice If you don't like it then you not obliged to get one. Simple as that.

Snotty, have you ever noticed how many of your posts begin with "I'm a goth..."? Then you usually follow it with "...but I don't <insert typical gothical characteristic here>." Has it ever occurred to you that maybe you're not a goth after all? Do you think maybe Jesus lead you here for a reason?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Originally Posted by VictoryOS

Snotty, have you ever noticed how many of your posts begin with "I'm a goth..."? Then you usually follow it with "...but I don't <insert typical gothical characteristic here>." Has it ever occurred to you that maybe you're not a goth after all? Do you think maybe Jesus lead you here for a reason?

Bless you, Sister Victory (what's the OS for? Are you named after an Operating System?)! You have finally figured out this dilemma.

He has no Goth characteristics because he is NOT A GOTH!

This could make for a very fun game. Let me try!

"I'm a Satanist, but I don't worship Satan, or drink infant blood, or sacrifice animals or Christian babies to my Dark Master, or practice witchcraft or "sex magick" (stress on the "ick")."

HA! That was fun, who's next?

[JSFinta]

Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

This could make for a very fun game. Let me try!
"I'm a Satanist, but I don't worship Satan, or drink infant blood, or sacrifice animals or Christian babies to my Dark Master, or practice witchcraft or "sex magick" (stress on the "ick")."
HA! That was fun, who's next?

Well I have to say your onto something there. That's compleatly right. You wouldn't happen to be akin to Reverend RG Green would you?

Does that mean you've decided to give up Gothness and become a True Christian™?

And no. I may yet become a Christian, but not as I have seen here. The coment I made was a trap I wanted to see if anyone would bluner into. The "Uncaring filth" I spoke of covers every group of people on this planet. And yes, that does mean goths too, but with that Christians as well. I think that we will all be judged fairly in the end.

Yet oddly enough, here you are refusing to leave us be. Every gothic who posts here is a vile hypocrite.

Do you really expect that such a vicous attack would not provoke a respose?

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by JSFinta

Do you really expect that such a vicous attack would not provoke a respose?

Now how is witnessing to THE TRUTH™ of God's message in The Bible a "vicious attack"? If you have a problem with the commandments of not being a freaky dressed pagan freak then your problem is with Jesus, not us friend.

All we are doing is trying to help worthless walking pieces of whinny excrement reach salvation. I don't want you being raped and beat to death by drunken Englishmen because you incurred God's wrath.

Is it wrong to care?

[snottyduck]

Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

Bless you, Sister Victory (what's the OS for? Are you named after an Operating System?)! You have finally figured out this dilemma.

He has no Goth characteristics because he is NOT A GOTH!

This could make for a very fun game. Let me try!

"I'm a Satanist, but I don't worship Satan, or drink infant blood, or sacrifice animals or Christian babies to my Dark Master, or practice witchcraft or "sex magick" (stress on the "ick")."

HA! That was fun, who's next?

The difference here is that satanism is a belief while Goth isn't, Goth is a state of mind, a subculture and a mutual feeling between many different types of people who can have quite a lot of different believes or no believes at all. A satanist claiming that he doesn't worship Satan is impossible because it's his belief, it's not a state of mind or a subculture. The so called "characteristics" you mentioned are of course again nothing more than idiotic stereotypes you people believe in without even questioning yourselves if they are truly correct. Stereotypes are of course never correct but that doesn't withhold any of you to use them as being the truth. I suggest you look up the word stereotype to have a better understanding about that word.

Whether I'm a Goth or not is not for any of you to decide, none of you even remotely know the subculture, it's scene, it's philosophy or it's people. You only know some idiotic writings of people who don't know the scene either and base all there so called research on media comments who in their turn are only written to be as sensational and shocking as they can be (even by telling plain lies) to sell big time. Just think of this, what would sell more in the media, the title "Goths are just a happy Subculture like so many others" or " Goths involved in gruesome satanic rape and cannibalism"?? Sure, the last one will certainly sell a ton more even if it's a plain lie because hey, the people don't know those Goths anyway so they are none the wiser if it's just a lie. Reading about a subculture alone isn't enough, certainly not out of newspapers and questionable sources, to really know a subculture, and certainly one as complicated as the Goth subculture with it's many sub-genres, requires you to get to know the people, the parties, the state of mind and many other parts first handed and not out of some sleazy magazine or comments of some unreliable prejudiced writer.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Originally Posted by JSFinta

Well I have to say your onto something there. That's compleatly right. You wouldn't happen to be akin to Reverend RG Green would you?

How would openly suggesting a game imply, in your drug-addled mind, that I am related to the False Christian who pretended to be one of us, when he was really a Goth rejected by his own kind and obsessed with Sophie Lancaster? I believe he has gone off and started a group called the Goth Labiaectomies Front or something.

Do you really expect that such a vicous attack would not provoke a respose?

I'm not sure what a respose is, or a vicous, but I also have not seen any VICIOUS attack, nor any RESPONSE indicating any intelligence.

Who attacked you, Little Goth Girl? Are you upset because the good people at Landover are contributing funds to aid in the defense of the Lancashire Five? If so, why do you hate their freedom to contribute funds as they choose? Seems you're the one attacking.

[snottyduck]

Originally Posted by Bobby-Joe

Now how is witnessing to THE TRUTH™ of God's message in The Bible a "vicious attack"? If you have a problem with the commandments of not being a freaky dressed pagan freak then your problem is with Jesus, not us friend.

All we are doing is trying to help worthless walking pieces of whinny excrement reach salvation. I don't want you being raped and beat to death by drunken Englishmen because you incurred God's wrath.

Is it wrong to care?

So who decides what is freaky to wear or not?? people living 2000 years ago would find your clothes freaky too. Unless of course you wear the same clothes like 2000 years ago and that would be considered freaky in this society BTW. Fashion is an ever changing thing and what might look freaky today may become fashion tomorrow. If I see a Romantic Goth girl with the appropriate dress and make-up I'm not thinking "what a freak", no I'm thinking "that girl has style". You can't expect people to live in a way they did 2000 years or more ago because you don't do that either.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by snottyduck

So who decides what is freaky to wear or not??

Jesus decides. Jesus and His chosen few (i.e., True Christians™ ). We are commanded to judge the unrighteous.

I'm looking at you, snotty chicken.

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by JSFinta

Some of the posts in this thread have gothic humor in them wether you realise or not.

Gothics have a sense of humour? First I'd heard of it. When a goth hears a joke they like, do they actually laugh, or just cry some more?

Originally Posted by snottyduck

hé, even those who are satanist are not bad to be friends with.

Wrong. Of course they're bad to be friends with. Satan is pretty much the definition of bad, you worthless little twerp.

Originally Posted by JSFinta

First I'd like to clear up a little misconception regarding myself. My name is Janos Sandor Finta (Hence JSFinta), also Finta, not Fanta. I am also a boy, not a girl.

Then why are you whining like a girl? You sound like you're on your monthly curse to me.

Regarding your analogy, I would definetly pull the girl away. Although is it not possible to be a goth and a cristian?

No.

If some of the horrific things I have read in this thread about goths were true, would not all goth be locked away?

You'd think so...then again, it's still legal to be a Muslim as well.

Originally Posted by JSFinta

I will not however deny that it has nothing to with religon.

So, are you saying that it does have something to do with religion, or that it doesn't? Are you even saying anything at all?

Originally Posted by JSFinta

The "Uncaring filth" I spoke of covers every group of people on this planet.

So you don't think anyone should have human rights? Yet more proof of how hateful you disgusting goth scum really are.

[Boring Jerry]

What you all describe as "goth" or "gothic" is actually not what it really is. Gothic refers to the medieval times, so unless there are people walking around wearing clothes like they did back then, than they're not gothic.

[Nobar King]

Originally Posted by snottyduck

Goth subculture with it's many sub-genres, requires you to get to know the people, the parties, the state of mind and many other parts first handed and not out of some sleazy magazine or comments of some unreliable prejudiced writer.

So it's all just about parties and sleazy magazines? That's prima facie evidence of violation of God's law.