[BelieverInGod]

Originally Posted by FRISHY#2

Texts had a character limit and so people would write like this so they can write more, and it's also quicker. Quickness is why it's used online. And the church did it so they can get more people into religion and attend church. Believe it or not, but if every church followed how you think church should be masses of churches will be shut down. Also English is not gods language.

So you think it's better for a church to tell people what they want to hear to keep their pews and pocketbooks full rather than for a church to teach what the Bible actually says?

Luke 12

16 And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully:
17 And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits?
18 And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods.
19 And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.
20 But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?
21 So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.

[FISHBRAIN#2]

Originally Posted by Bobby-Joe

If the Jack Boot fits,..

You know who else doesn't believe in American Uniqueness in World History? Barrack Obama. You keep company with Nazis like Obama, you are a Nazi Frishy.

You clearly have no idea what a nazi is. (Of course you probably do, but you are using the term so incorrectly its a joke). And yet don't you say that the jewish religion is wrong and full of sinners. That would make you closer to being a nazi than me.

@BelieverInGod No but theres nothing wrong with drawing in the crowd. Churches are becoming less popular as they used too.

[handmaiden]

Originally Posted by FRISHY#2

Also English is not gods language.

(sigh) And neither is yours.




By the way, (notice how I went through all the trouble of writing out "by the way" instead of btw? ) (Twice, actually) many people besides the posters on this forum, --be they True Christian or Hell bound sinners-- such as educators and employers, are concerned with the effects of text messaging on the writing skills of the younger generation. All that quick, short cut communication is like living on candy and snack foods, it does not nourish the mind or the thinking processes involved in expressing intelligent content.


Most of what is expressed in text messages is banal in the extreme.


Call what goes on here conversation or expository writing, but its demands are more sophisticated than text messaging ( and most text users ) can provide.

Here, people in this forum are expected to take their time and contribute something meaningful to the community. This is not a "c u l8r" venue.

Remember, not everyone here agrees with everyone else. The problem that you keep running into is how you express you ideas verbally. You simply don't write very well, Frishy. And learning how to write can have a tremendous influence on learning how to think.

And THAT, my dear, is why people are worried about text-speak in non- text message applications.

Properly Yours,

Handmaiden

[FISHBRAIN#2]

Originally Posted by handmaiden

(sigh) And neither is yours.

Originally Posted by me

our english isnt gods language anyway

Exactly what i said.

As for writing, i write in full, capital I's, punctuation, and no u instead of you, since there isnt really any reason for it. Online is different than writing by hand, unless it's for formal occasions. But this being your forum (as in the community's forum) there's nothing wrong with having it that people should write in complete sentences.

Oh and something i just noticed is that the topic says "sp33k", that isnt txt speak, but leet speak. I find it annoying, though have used it myself but in a light sort of jokingly way. And people don't generally use it.

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by FRISHY#2

You clearly have no idea what a nazi is. (Of course you probably do, but you are using the term so incorrectly its a joke). And yet don't you say that the jewish religion is wrong and full of sinners. That would make you closer to being a nazi than me.

Sure I know what a Nazi is; they are socialists like Hitler, Stalin and Obama. If you think I am joking then you must think the Tea Party and Fox News with Glen Beck is having one too.

[BelieverInGod]

Originally Posted by FRISHY#2

Exactly what i said.

As for writing, i write in full, capital I's, punctuation, and no u instead of you, since there isnt really any reason for it. Online is different than writing by hand, unless it's for formal occasions. But this being your forum (as in the community's forum) there's nothing wrong with having it that people should write in complete sentences.

Oh and something i just noticed is that the topic says "sp33k", that isnt txt speak, but leet speak. I find it annoying, though have used it myself but in a light sort of jokingly way. And people don't generally use it.

So this is your typical behaviour? To change the topic when you get cornered? txtspk/1337 sp33k what's the difference? It's all gobbly-gook that's hard on the eyes.

Show some respect.

[FISHBRAIN#2]

Originally Posted by BelieverInGod

So this is your typical behaviour? To change the topic when you get cornered? txtspk/1337 sp33k what's the difference? It's all gobbly-gook that's hard on the eyes.

Show some respect.

How do you even read what i have disrespectful, i mean, seriously. You must have had loads of people that are way more harsh than me, im not being harsh in teh slightest...

Also txt speak is shortening of language, whilst leetspeak is using numbers and characters to replace letters, to act all nerdy i guess. I was just stating it, no need to go all defensive on me.

[BelieverInGod]

Originally Posted by FRISHY#2

How do you even read what i have disrespectful, i mean, seriously. You must have had loads of people that are way more harsh than me, im not being harsh in teh slightest...

Also txt speak is shortening of language, whilst leetspeak is using numbers and characters to replace letters, to act all nerdy i guess. I was just stating it, no need to go all defensive on me.

I'm not being defensive, you've been asked to type using proper English on this board and instead of doing so, you are fighting with us about it.

"txt spk" is just straight up laziness, there's no other reason no matter what you say.

1337 was the language of online criminals at one time, it had nothing to do with being nerdy.

You don't even understand what's behind these, you just do it because your friends do, sad really.

Anyway, back on topic, you actually believe that either form of writing belongs on a church sign? You ignored this post of mine.

Originally Posted by BelieverInGod

So you think it's better for a church to tell people what they want to hear to keep their pews and pocketbooks full rather than for a church to teach what the Bible actually says?

Luke 12

16 And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully:
17 And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits?
18 And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods.
19 And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.
20 But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?
21 So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.

[handmaiden]

Originally Posted by FRISHY#2

Texts had a character limit and so people would write like this so they can write more, and it's also quicker. Quickness is why it's used online. And the church did it so they can get more people into religion and attend church. Believe it or not, but if every church followed how you think church should be masses of churches will be shut down. Also English is not gods language.

Maybe not, but the English that you write could make a Cockney cry.

As for the issue of text message-style communication leaking into other aspects of life; many, many educators, employers and community leaders are concerned that texting teens are shortchanging themselves when it comes to learning how to express their thoughts.

The content of most text messages is banal in the extreme. Admittedly, some of what is posted here can also be banal, but many people from different perspectives contribute to the discussions and most of them understand the connection between clear writting and clear thinking.

Text messaging is about as intellectually challenging as chewing gum. Chewing gum isn't a terrible health habit, but no one can live on it exclusively.

Text messaging isn't real writing and it isn't real thinking. If you never develop the skill in one; the other doesn't does develop either. And it works in both directions.

People come here to learn and think. Based on the unclear style of your writing, it doesn't seem as though you are prepared to do either.

Oh, and the Hitler comments that I'm seeing? Those are besides the point. But you can't seem to see it because you, yourself keep missing the point. You don't really seem to understand what you're reading here (Hitler comments notwithstanding) and your own thoughts, as expressed in your writing, are hard to understand as well.

Say what you will about old Adolph, but he was a master at communication. He turned many people's thinking to the unthinkable because of the power of his words.

To paraphrase former U.S. Vice Presidental candidate Lloyd Betson : " You, Frishy, are no Hitler."

Resignedly Yours,

Handmaiden

The LBC forum is many things; it is NOT a "c u l8r" venue.

[WickedGame]

Originally Posted by BelieverInGod

So this is your typical behaviour? To change the topic when you get cornered? txtspk/1337 sp33k what's the difference? It's all gobbly-gook that's hard on the eyes.

Show some respect.

I really don't see how this person was disrespectful. Maybe you should look up the definition. I also don't see how anyone thinks that English is "god's" language. The Bible wasn't originally written in English.

[Felicity]

@WickedGame Did you never notice the #KJV1611 is written in English?

[WickedGame]

Originally Posted by Felicity

@WickedGame Did you never notice the #KJV1611 is written in English?

Yeah, I kind of had noticed!
However, the Bible was not originally written in English. It was not written in England or America, therefore, it wasn't originally written in English. When King James got his insane hands on the bible, he rewrote it in English. But only because English was probably the only language he knew.

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by WickedGame

Yeah, I kind of had noticed! However, the Bible was not originally written in English. It was not written in England or America, therefore, it wasn't originally written in English. When King James got his insane hands on the bible, he rewrote it in English. But only because English was probably the only language he knew.

It seems your perspective on this is influenced by the way Catholics look at this. For some reason Catholics believe the Bible should be in some unreadable language no normal person can read. Allowing only priests to read the Bible and thereby keeping common people away from the word of God.

This is however not how God wants it to be. God wants common people to be able to study His word directly, without a priest confusing issues and skipping important parts of His word.

This is why the only correct version of the Holy Bible is in God's favorite language!

You can read more about this here: Seven easy ways to tell the True Bible from the false ones.

2nd Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"

2nd Timothy 4:1-2 "I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine."

[MsPhoenixFire]

Originally Posted by FISHBRAIN#2

You cant compare me(?) to Hitler...
American english originated from Britain, so american-english is not as pure as you are saying, and our english isnt gods language anyway since english wasnt spoke until centurys after jesus's time.

You are right, The Bible was first written in HEBREW, it was later translated into English as well as many other languages.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

If you want to understand the specifics of how God gave us the Holy KJV1611 Bible, please take a look at THIS.

[WWJDnow]

Originally Posted by Cranky Old Man

No it did not. All languages where created by God! Genesis 11:9 "Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth."

That's right. And not only that, but even before the Tower of Babel, God had created all of the languages, since Genesis 10 tells us of the spread of the generations of the sons of Noah:

By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations. Genesis 10:5

Now you may be wondering how God could have created the languages at the Tower of Babel if they already existed. The answer is simplicity itself--God created the languages at the Tower of Babel, but He backdated them so they could be used in the time of Noah.

[WickedGame]

Originally Posted by Cranky Old Man

It seems your perspective on this is influenced by the way Catholics look at this. For some reason Catholics believe the Bible should be in some unreadable language no normal person can read. Allowing only priests to read the Bible and thereby keeping common people away from the word of God.

This is however not how God wants it to be. God wants common people to be able to study His word directly, without a priest confusing issues and skipping important parts of His word.

This is why the only correct version of the Holy Bible is in God's favorite language!

You can read more about this here: Seven easy ways to tell the True Bible from the false ones.

2nd Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"

2nd Timothy 4:1-2 "I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine."

Regardless of what your "god" wants, the Bible wasn't originally written in English. I already said this. I'm sure you think that your god wants everyone to believe in him, but wanting doesn't make it so. The Bible is written in English, yes. But, it wasn't ORIGINALLY written in English.

[handmaiden]

Originally Posted by WickedGame

Regardless of what your "god" wants, the Bible wasn't originally written in English. I already said this. I'm sure you think that your god wants everyone to believe in him, but wanting doesn't make it so. The Bible is written in English, yes. But, it wasn't ORIGINALLY written in English.

Yes, but God wants His truth to be spread far and wide.

Very few these days have the opportunity to learn ancient Hebrew, Greek or Aramatic.

English is the third most spoken language in the world, after godless Chinese and temperamental Spanish.

It is the officially "received" language of the science community -- and boy do those science types need to hear God's word-- as well as the maritime and aviation communities, which God uses as venues to spread His word. The English empire once spread the language and thus the ability to read the Book to many parts of the globe. The USA has since been given the standard of world power to serve God --at least partly through spreading English.

America was populated by many sincere people who cherished His Word enough to endure persecution at home and face the unknown upon new shores.

It took roughly 400 years for God to bring this Nation to prominence in order to spread that devotion to the Bible even further than the English before us.

A thousand years is as a day in God's sight. Look at all He has done for us in less than half a work day. How can anyone doubt His Wisdom and Blessing?

Worshipfully Yours,

Handmaiden

[WickedGame]

Originally Posted by handmaiden

Yes, but God wants His truth to be spread far and wide.

Very few these days have the opportunity to learn ancient Hebrew, Greek or Aramatic.

English is the third most spoken language in the world, after godless Chinese and temperamental Spanish.

It is the officially "received" language of the science community -- and boy do those science types need to hear God's word-- as well as the maritime and aviation communities, which God uses as venues to spread His word. The English empire once spread the language and thus the ability to read the Book to many parts of the globe. The USA has since been given the standard of world power to serve God --at least partly through spreading English.

America was populated by many sincere people who cherished His Word enough to endure persecution at home and face the unknown upon new shores.

It took roughly 400 years for God to bring this Nation to prominence in order to spread that devotion to the Bible even further than the English before us.

A thousand years is as a day in God's sight. Look at all He has done for us in less than half a work day. How can anyone doubt His Wisdom and Blessing?

Worshipfully Yours,

Handmaiden

If he really wanted his word to be spread he would have not created so many languages; this causes some people not to be exposed to the Bible.
Or, he would have had the Bible written in many different languages, so that everyone could read it, regardless of their native language.
Not everyone learns to read English and I'm happy for them, because their minds will never be polluted by your "god's" word.

[Dirk]

Originally Posted by WickedGame

If he really wanted his word to be spread he would have not created so many languages; this causes some people not to be exposed to the Bible.
Or, he would have had the Bible written in many different languages, so that everyone could read it, regardless of their native language.
Not everyone learns to read English and I'm happy for them, because their minds will never be polluted by your "god's" word.

That is their own fault for not being saved!