[JewPincher]

Always remember that we beat our children to raise them as True Christians. We do this out of love.

Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it. Proverbs 22:6

I propose that daughters be beaten more. This is because when they have grown, they will need to be obedient wives who only know to serve their husband. He will need to continue the discipline. My daughters are beaten everyday as well as my wife. They are all extremely obedient. They should fear you like they will fear their future husband and as they fear the Lord.

Like as a father pitieth his children, so the Lord pitieth them that fear him. Psalms 103:13

Please share your beating and punishment methods!

[A Bible non-reader]

Well if this is fair then how, did you become a true Christian were you beaten mercilessly.

Also what is a 'True Christian' is it someone who doesn't sin well i hate to say this but only one man has not sinned and that was Jesus.

Then why? Do you try to make others perfect when you yourself are not perfect.
“Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none.”
― William Shakespeare.
Also a quote from the bible “You shall love your neighbour as yourself.” this includes family
Galatians 5:14

[lukasekman]

The rod is the parenting tool of choice:
He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
Proverbs 13:24

I have also experienced good results with punching them in the stomach and boxed their ears. Girls and women in particular have a tendency to talk too much otherwise:
The wise in heart will receive commandments: but a prating fool shall fall.
Proverbs 10:8

Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
1 Corinthians 14:34And don't underestimate cold: having kids sleeping outside in cold weather
or having cold showers works wonders in troubled situations.

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by A Bible reader

...Also what is a 'True Christian' is it someone who doesn't sin well i hate to say this but only one man has not sinned and that was Jesus...

No one here claims that they have not sinned ( <--- PAST TENSE), but that they do not sin ( <--- PRESENT TENSE). They actually can't sin, as this thread helpfully shows:

True Christians are Perfect!

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by A Bible reader

Then why?

JewPincher posted the reason in his OP, dear. The LORD commands it for the good of our children!

Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
Proverbs 22:6

Originally Posted by A Bible reader

Do you try to make others perfect when you yourself are not perfect.

Don't be silly. True Christians are Perfect!

Originally Posted by A Bible reader

Also a quote from the bible “You shall love your neighbour as yourself.” this includes family
Galatians 5:14

Ah, but who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

Try reading the Holy Bible through, in context dear, not picking through pieces here and there that make you feel all warm and fuzzy. You just might learn something!


And to the OP, you can read my parenting methods in this thread:

Godly Parenting: Tomato Staking for Beginners

[JewPincher]

Originally Posted by A Bible reader

Well if this is fair then how, did you become a true Christian were you beaten mercilessly.

Also what is a 'True Christian' is it someone who doesn't sin well i hate to say this but only one man has not sinned and that was Jesus.

Then why? Do you try to make others perfect when you yourself are not perfect.
“Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none.”
― William Shakespeare.
Also a quote from the bible “You shall love your neighbour as yourself.” this includes family
Galatians 5:14

I'm sorry, I was unaware that a Shakespeare quote was significant compared to the Holy Bible. :thumb down:
Also, like many have said, you are taking Scripture out of context. Please actually attempt to read it.
Also, I do beat my daughters and wife OUT OF LOVE. I do this so that they can live a good, obedient, Christian life and for them to be saved by the Lord.

[JewPincher]

Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda

JewPincher posted the reason in his OP, dear. The LORD commands it for the good of our children!

Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
Proverbs 22:6

Don't be silly. True Christians are Perfect!



Ah, but who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

Try reading the Holy Bible through, in context dear, not picking through pieces here and there that make you feel all warm and fuzzy. You just might learn something!


And to the OP, you can read my parenting methods in this thread:

Godly Parenting: Tomato Staking for Beginners

That is a lovely article! Thank you very much for sharing it with me! Every parent who wants to raise Christian children should take a look at that!

God bless!

[WhitePower103]

Might I ask though if it is right to beat our children, especially our daughters? If we beat them, then that will teach them to fear us,and more importantly, rebel against us. In turn teaching them to rebel against their future husband, driving them away from us and into the arms of satan? If we beat them, I have found that they become more disobedient. (experience with my 3rd daughter) I beat her more because she shown more hate towards me and her mother, she started dating [NEGROIDAL AMERICANS] just to get back at me.

[Mother Of Seven]

There's nothing wrong with fear. Do you not fear God?
Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: But fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Proverbs 14:26 In the fear of the Lord is strong confidence: And his children shall have a place of refuge.
Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
Psalms 33:8 Let all the earth fear the Lord: Let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him.

[WhitePower103]

Of course I fear GOD, but today's generation has no fear, no loyalties (except to their weed), and no restrictions. It cannot be beaten into them either. Beating children of this day will drive them to satan, who brings false promises of joy and sex. I am not saying that this method wasn't effective at one point, but is it still today?

Colossians 3:21 - Fathers, provoke not your children, lest they be discouraged.
Colossians 3:20 - Children, obey [your] parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.

[Mother Of Seven]

It's up to you to teach your children fear.
Children of today are raised to be praised for everything - they get a prize, not for winning a race, but competing in it!
They're told that they're special - well, they're not - they're just like any other kid.
Their parents think that they're good - if they muck up at school, it's "My little Johnny wouldn't do that" Rubbish! Take them home and punish them.
They're encouraged to have "opinions", and adults take those childish opinions seriously. What happened to "a child should be seen and not heard"?
Parents of today have lost the ability to parent. They expect the school to teach them manners and sex ed and everything else. Wrong. It's the school's job to teach them the 3 Rs - everything else is your responsibility.
Their 'heroes' are satanic homer rock 'stars', or at best sportsmen. What happened to the heroes of yesterday - astronauts, explorers, pioneers - people who actually made the world a better place and glorified God.


Is it any wonder that the children of today have no respect for adults, for God or for their parents.

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by WhitePower103

...Beating children of this day will drive them to satan, who brings false promises of joy and sex. I am not saying that this method wasn't effective at one point, but is it still today?...

You aren't doubting the eternal wisdom of your God, are you?

...Colossians 3:21 - Fathers, provoke not your children, lest they be discouraged...

Hmmm, that's not what my King James says.

Colossians 3:21 "Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged."

[JewPincher]

Originally Posted by WhitePower103

Might I ask though if it is right to beat our children, especially our daughters? If we beat them, then that will teach them to fear us,and more importantly, rebel against us. In turn teaching them to rebel against their future husband, driving them away from us and into the arms of satan? If we beat them, I have found that they become more disobedient. (experience with my 3rd daughter) I beat her more because she shown more hate towards me and her mother, she started dating [NEGROIDAL AMERICANS] just to get back at me.

I beat my children everyday to remind them of their fear in me and the Lord. If they were to be disobedient, a parent is to respond with a punishment IMMEDIATELY AND HARSHLY. This is how I am with my daughters and they do not disobey me for they fear me.

[WhitePower103]

Thank you for your input, there must have been some odd occurrence with my black-loving daughter. I will force the words of the KJV bible into her heathen brain.

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by WhitePower103

...I will force the words of the KJV bible into her heathen brain.

Just obey all local laws and ordinances while doing so.

Hebrews 13:17 "Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you."

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by WhitePower103

Might I ask though if it is right to beat our children, especially our daughters? If we beat them, then that will teach them to fear us,and more importantly, rebel against us. In turn teaching them to rebel against their future husband, driving them away from us and into the arms of satan? If we beat them, I have found that they become more disobedient. (experience with my 3rd daughter) I beat her more because she shown more hate towards me and her mother, she started dating [NEGROIDAL AMERICANS] just to get back at me.

You seem sincere in your desire to apply a Godly approach to your parenting. My heart goes out to the man who desires to serve the LORD above all, and strives to thwart the work of Satan in his own family. Perhaps you're missing a few key components in your discipline techniques. While a more intensive physical reminder will certainly make a louder point, it means nothing it if is not coupled with other fundamental truths, like authority and obedience.

It's not enough to discipline a child just because you are bigger and stronger. Although that is certainly a convenience the LORD has granted parents, there will come a day when the child is big enough and fast enough to run away. If you wish to guide them to Heaven and not watch them run to Hell, you'll want them to be sufficiently conditioned to stay still throughout their disciplinary experience, both physically and metaphorically. To know you are correcting from a position of authority is of utmost importance because the authority of a father over a daughter mirrors the authority of God over man.

As God is in authority over all creation (Ephesians 1:21; Matthew 28:18; Colossians 2:10; Hebrews 1:2; 1 Peter 3:22), a man holds authority over his wife (Genesis 3:16; 1 Corinthians 11:3; 1st Timothy 2:12; Ephesians 5:22-24). This same pattern applies to a parent's authority over the child (Colossians 3:20; Deuteronomy 5:16; Ephesians 6:1; Proverbs 6:20). If you do not discipline from a point of authority, but a point of selfish power and control, you will loose your daughter's heart.

You want her heart because you want her to know, and want, and fear, and desire the same things you do. You want her heart because you want her inner voice to be your voice, "what would Daddy want me to do in this case" should be her first thought in all things.

It's not enough to just beat a child. Any heathen can do that, and you'll see ample examples in certain races like negro and mexican. What you want is to guide your daughter's heart to Christ, through the habit of obedience to you, so she can ultimately be obedient unto the LORD at all times. The physical aspect of this whole thing is to serve as a break between the temptations of the world and the Truth of the LORD. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak. By training the flesh to feel physical pain at spiritual danger is to teach the child to ignore all temptation that leads them astray from God's Will. This doesn't come naturally (1 John 2:15; Romans 12:2; James 4:4), but it can be taught.

Of course, the point of teaching obedience is because it is through obedience that Jesus identifies who loves Him (2 John 1:6), and who is deserving of His unconditional love (John 14:23).

You can read more on this thread started for parents desiring to raise their children to please the LORD: Godly Parenting: Tomato Staking for Beginners

[WhitePower103]

I appreciate your thorough explanation, sister Mary. Maybe there is a good medium between beating and teaching. I will show my daughter this post and explain it to her as well, maybe this will influence her sinful ways.

[Wandering Minstrel]

Settle down there tiger...I can tell you like the rhymes and how better to soothe the rage of a dilluded heathen pagan such as yourself than with an all too rare these days appearance by me, the self-proclaimed poet laureate Of the Landover Baptist website.

If your child is misbehavin' and speakin' out of turn
then tis a spankin' they be cravin' it's the only way they'll learn
using the rod is approved by God
so don't ye be in shock
if your child has gone wild
'cuz you listened to Dr. Spock
Who'd take parentin' advice from an alien from space
I'd sooner listen to a negro buck than one of the Vulcan race
Regular maintenance spankings thus will improve any child's life
and if she gets to uppity do the same for your wife.