[David Rothstein]

The ignorance of the Jewish faith and our history is astounding. Is everyone here a mouth-breathing hate monger?

1.) Those of you that are so fond of Deutschland are fortunate that you do not reside there. Such callous dismissal of the Nazi atrocities is against the law and Germans have been incarcerated for statements such as yours. Even Germany fully admits to the Holocaust.

2.) Kindly remove the "Christ-killing joo" moniker. Even if Jews were ultimately responsible for the death of your Christ, it is irrelevant. By Jesus' own teachings, He would forgive. And since He HAD to die to "save" you, you should be grateful to whoever nailed Him to the cross. Regardless, I as a Jew, did NOT kill him.

3.) I DO read the "KJV" bible. Many here do not seem to understand that the Torah refers to the first five books of the OT. And I read it in the original Hebrew as God had Moses write it. One of the reasons you Christians have such a hard time selling others on your religion is due to the silliness it has become in "American" English.

4.) Torah laws concerning usury only apply to transactions between Jews.
I actually charge no interest at all to my Jewish brethren. All others, being non-Jewish, represent substantial risk and are handled accordingly.

I hope we can move forward with civil discussion.

Shalom

[landoverlover]

Originally Posted by David Rothstein

The ignorance of the Jewish faith and our history is astounding. Is everyone here a mouth-breathing hate monger?

1.) Those of you that are so fond of Deutschland are fortunate that you do not reside there. Such callous dismissal of the Nazi atrocities is against the law and Germans have been incarcerated for statements such as yours. Even Germany fully admits to the Holocaust.

2.) Kindly remove the "Christ-killing joo" moniker. Even if Jews were ultimately responsible for the death of your Christ, it is irrelevant. By Jesus' own teachings, He would forgive. And since He HAD to die to "save" you, you should be grateful to whoever nailed Him to the cross. Regardless, I as a Jew, did NOT kill him.

3.) I DO read the "KJV" bible. Many here do not seem to understand that the Torah refers to the first five books of the OT. And I read it in the original Hebrew as God had Moses write it. One of the reasons you Christians have such a hard time selling others on your religion is due to the silliness it has become in "American" English.

4.) Torah laws concerning usury only apply to transactions between Jews.
I actually charge no interest at all to my Jewish brethren. All others, being non-Jewish, represent substantial risk and are handled accordingly.

I hope we can move forward with civil discussion.

Shalom

Now that we've each staked out our territory I'm not sure what kind of 'discussion' you're talking about. As stated before, this is not an ecumenical pajama party. We have no interest whatsoever in changing our views in the slightest degree on anything, as they are based on God's eternal Word. On the other hand, despite our Holy Charter to 'make disciples of all nations' it is clear you intend to cling stubbornly to your religion, like a tick on the backside of a lemming about to jump off a cliff.

I'm plumb tuckered out, talking-wise.

[Viggo B. Kristoffersen]

Originally Posted by David Rothstein

The ignorance of the Jewish faith and our history is astounding. Is everyone here a mouth-breathing hate monger?

1.) Those of you that are so fond of Deutschland are fortunate that you do not reside there. Such callous dismissal of the Nazi atrocities is against the law and Germans have been incarcerated for statements such as yours. Even Germany fully admits to the Holocaust.

2.) Kindly remove the "Christ-killing joo" moniker. Even if Jews were ultimately responsible for the death of your Christ, it is irrelevant. By Jesus' own teachings, He would forgive. And since He HAD to die to "save" you, you should be grateful to whoever nailed Him to the cross. Regardless, I as a Jew, did NOT kill him.

3.) I DO read the "KJV" bible. Many here do not seem to understand that the Torah refers to the first five books of the OT. And I read it in the original Hebrew as God had Moses write it. One of the reasons you Christians have such a hard time selling others on your religion is due to the silliness it has become in "American" English.

4.) Torah laws concerning usury only apply to transactions between Jews.
I actually charge no interest at all to my Jewish brethren. All others, being non-Jewish, represent substantial risk and are handled accordingly.

I hope we can move forward with civil discussion.

Shalom

Hello JesusKiller

How can you expect a "civil" dicussion, when you are not a civil person in the eyes of JESUS?

Were do you really think you will end up, when it's not the "Kingdom of God"?

I have a couple of clues for you:

It's very hot and painful, and the place will be full of liebrals, mooslimes, atheists and JEWS.

John 3:1-3
3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
3:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

[Phebe Carlyle]

Hello Mr Rothstein,

I have been watching this thread with interest.

I just want to know as I cannot really tell by your profile-shot picture. Are you a Sephardic Jew or an Ashkenazic Jew?

Also, what differences do you personally find between the Tanakhk and the Septuagint, as far as translation itself goes.

I would be interested to hear a joo's take on this.

YIC

Mrs. Phebe Dewitt.

[Warner S. Davidson]

Originally Posted by David Rothstein

2.) Kindly remove the "Christ-killing joo" moniker. Even if Jews were ultimately responsible for the death of your Christ, it is irrelevant. By Jesus' own teachings, He would forgive. And since He HAD to die to "save" you, you should be grateful to whoever nailed Him to the cross. Regardless, I as a Jew, did NOT kill him.

Charming.........
So you admit to murdering Christ and you regard it as irrelevant.

Then you use the tired old defence of it wasn't actually us / me.
No wonder every second Joo is a lawyer

So based of your cowardly and simplistic logic as Charles Manson didn't actually participate in many of his atrocities but his Satanic "family" did on his behalf then he should be absolved from any responsibility or accountability.

Of course this is totally preposterous and insulting, as is your flawed and offensive justification of the murder of Jesus

God has reserved a premium location for you all in Hell

[David Rothstein]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Phebe Dewitt

Hello Mr Rothstein,

I have been watching this thread with interest.

I just want to know as I cannot really tell by your profile-shot picture. Are you a Sephardic Jew or an Ashkenazic Jew?

Also, what differences do you personally find between the Tanakhk and the Septuagint, as far as translation itself goes.

I would be interested to hear a joo's take on this.

YIC

Mrs. Phebe Dewitt.

Thank you for the first courteous reply I have seen.

I am an Ashkenazic Jew and a direct descendant of Polish and German Jews. This is why I find denial of the Holocaust particularly offensive.

I am fluent in Hebrew and therefore have no need for the Septuagint. The Greeks are the ones that really screwed up translations. Imagine trying to translate metaphorical and pictoral Hebrew through that mess that no one even understands today.

Shalom

[Fire&Brimstone]

The people on this site have been so nice to me and treated me with respect. But I feel sad hearing your clames and your reluctance to make the leap from your religion of hate to being a Christian. Please try and make that first step....

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

So please try and save your self, I will help you, its not your fault. Take Jesus hand and repent your joo ways.

[Phebe Carlyle]

Originally Posted by David Rothstein

Thank you for the first courteous reply I have seen.

I am an Ashkenazic Jew and a direct descendant of Polish and German Jews. This is why I find denial of the Holocaust particularly offensive.

I am fluent in Hebrew and therefore have no need for the Septuagint. The Greeks are the ones that really screwed up translations. Imagine trying to translate metaphorical and pictoral Hebrew through that mess that no one even understands today.

Shalom

You are welcome for the reply. I am still trying to determine your underlying reason for being here to be frank, so just know not only Jesus will be keeping an eye out on you, Mr Rothstein.

As you claim to be a man of devout Joo faith, I am wondering why you hold no interest in the Septaugint, considering it was the joos who did the initial translation from ancient Hebrew to the Greek. Did they intentionally give false information (use wilfully deceptive ways) with intention to cull the TRUE believers from the Soothsayers? I know we True Christians here at LBC only follow the KJV1611, which is a DIRECT translation from the Tanahk, so we know the TRUTH regardless of the wiley intentions of the joos!

I also notice you are a money lender. Perhaps that has a lot to do with why you hate Jesus so.

Matthew 21:

12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,
13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.

IS that why your ancestors KILLED HIM!?


Also, how can you possibly deny Jesus considering it is CLEAR that Isaiah and Daniel (just to name a few) were obviously prophesying about OUR (Christian) LORD!

YIC

Mrs. Phebe Dewitt.

[Lisa H]

Originally Posted by David Rothstein

2.) Kindly remove the "Christ-killing joo" moniker. Even if Jews were ultimately responsible for the death of your Christ, it is irrelevant. By Jesus' own teachings, He would forgive. And since He HAD to die to "save" you, you should be grateful to whoever nailed Him to the cross. Regardless, I as a Jew, did NOT kill him.

I am sadden by your heartless comment about the murder of Jesus. Please take time to reflect on what Brother Warner said.

[Warner S. Davidson]

Originally Posted by David Rothstein
Thank you for the first courteous reply I have seen.

Interesting

It is a shame that your deceptive forebears were not familiar with the concept of courtesy when they performed Satans 'bidding' and took it upon themselves to betray Jesus and murder him

A little "recap" of events just for you from the KJV1611
Luke 22:3

Then Satan entered Judas, surnamed Iscariot, who was numbered among the twelve.
John 18:5

They answered Him, “Jesus of Nazareth.”
Jesus said to them, “I am He.” And Judas, who betrayed Him, also stood with them.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by David Rothstein

The ignorance of the Jewish faith and our history is astounding. Is everyone here a mouth-breathing hate monger?

1.) Those of you that are so fond of Deutschland are fortunate that you do not reside there. Such callous dismissal of the Nazi atrocities is against the law and Germans have been incarcerated for statements such as yours. Even Germany fully admits to the Holocaust.

2.) Kindly remove the "Christ-killing joo" moniker. Even if Jews were ultimately responsible for the death of your Christ, it is irrelevant. By Jesus' own teachings, He would forgive. And since He HAD to die to "save" you, you should be grateful to whoever nailed Him to the cross. Regardless, I as a Jew, did NOT kill him.

3.) I DO read the "KJV" bible. Many here do not seem to understand that the Torah refers to the first five books of the OT. And I read it in the original Hebrew as God had Moses write it. One of the reasons you Christians have such a hard time selling others on your religion is due to the silliness it has become in "American" English.

4.) Torah laws concerning usury only apply to transactions between Jews.
I actually charge no interest at all to my Jewish brethren. All others, being non-Jewish, represent substantial risk and are handled accordingly.

I hope we can move forward with civil discussion.

Shalom

Take that demonic gibberish out of your signature. That space is reserved for KJV Scripture ONLY. In God's favorite language (American!)!

And stop being argumentative.

[James Dewitt]

I just want to know one simple thing, why did you kill Jesus?

[Levi Jones]

Originally Posted by David Rothstein

Thank you for the first courteous reply I have seen.

I am an Ashkenazic Jew and a direct descendant of Polish and German Jews. This is why I find denial of the Holocaust particularly offensive.

I am fluent in Hebrew and therefore have no need for the Septuagint. The Greeks are the ones that really screwed up translations. Imagine trying to translate metaphorical and pictoral Hebrew through that mess that no one even understands today.

Shalom

Why is it that the oldest "pure" Hebrew texts come from the 9th century c.e.?

The Septuagint predates you Christ killers texts by 1200-1300 years.

I can see you are a real mensch.

[Jo Freddie]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

In God's favorite language (American!)!

[Jo Freddie]

Originally Posted by James Dewitt

I just want to know one simple thing, why did you kill Jesus?

In the KJV-CFT they were framed by Jesus and his old man.

[EPH289]

Originally Posted by Lisa H

I am sadden by your heartless comment about the murder of Jesus. Please take time to reflect on what Brother Warner said.

He's commenting to an other post that was made earlier

Originally Posted by landoverlover

Calling you a 'kike' or a 'hebe' is pointless and rude and unChristian. A Christ-killer, certainly, as that is only factual.

You ASK to be punished by making the request to call you names. You ASK to be punished by coming onto this CHRISTIAN site, spoiling for a fight. Isn't that the history of your people? You act out like a disobedient whiny child, and God is forced to punish you throughout history. It must have taken a real effort to make a civilized nation so angry with you they killed six million of your number in that little unpleasantness called the Third Reich.

A killer by law is a murderer.

Funny thing is that you all point to the bible, so basically you all believe in it. But yet condemn Jews that they are murderer for having crucified Jesus, which was God plans in the beginning of things as he had already promised his coming in the old testament.

Yet all of you forget a few points. Jesus being the son lf Maria, was a jew, and his disciple were Jews. Not only that but Paul who wasn't directly a disciple of Jesus was also a Jew.

So saying that Jews are Christ Killers.. well that's outright false, they only accomplished the plan of God, so that all could be saved.

[Lisa H]

Originally Posted by EPH289

He's commenting to an other post that was made earlier



A killer by law is a murderer.

Funny thing is that you all point to the bible, so basically you all believe in it. But yet condemn Jews that they are murderer for having crucified Jesus, which was God plans in the beginning of things as he had already promised his coming in the old testament.

Yet all of you forget a few points. Jesus being the son lf Maria, was a jew, and his disciple were Jews. Not only that but Paul who wasn't directly a disciple of Jesus was also a Jew.

So saying that Jews are Christ Killers.. well that's outright false, they only accomplished the plan of God, so that all could be saved.

So you agree with him. Don't you feel sad that Jesus was murdered.

[EPH289]

Originally Posted by Lisa H

So you agree with him. Don't you feel sad that Jesus was murdered.

I don't feel sad that he sacrificed himself. He knew perfectly the reason why he was on earth. He chose his fate because his love for us was greater than anything, and because it was part of a greater plan.

Remember he even told Judas that he forgave him for what he was about to do, at the last dinner they had with him.

Jesus being God already knew he was going to die because that is what he had planned.

In john 13:24-30 You even see Jesus telling Judas to do what he had to do.

26Jesus answered, "It is the one to whom I will give this piece of bread when I have dipped it in the dish." Then, dipping the piece of bread, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, son of Simon. 27As soon as Judas took the bread, Satan entered into him. "What you are about to do, do quickly," Jesus told him, 28but no one at the meal understood why Jesus said this to him. 29Since Judas had charge of the money, some thought Jesus was telling him to buy what was needed for the Feast, or to give something to the poor. 30As soon as Judas had taken the bread, he went out. And it was night.

So you see, it's by the will of Jesus (God) that he was actually sacrificed. He could have stopped it any time, and it could have happened in any other place on the world. So by being fully aware that he was about to die, by having planned it before hand, as it was prophesied in the old testament, and by telling Judas to hurry and do what he knew he was going to do, was that murder? No. It was God who guided man to do what was needed to be done to save mankind.

[Lisa H]

Originally Posted by EPH289

I don't feel sad that he sacrificed himself. He knew perfectly the reason why he was on earth. He chose his fate because his love for us was greater than anything, and because it was part of a greater plan.

Remember he even told Judas that he forgave him for what he was about to do, at the last dinner they had with him.

Jesus being God already knew he was going to die because that is what he had planned.

In john 13:24-30 You even see Jesus telling Judas to do what he had to do.

26Jesus answered, "It is the one to whom I will give this piece of bread when I have dipped it in the dish." Then, dipping the piece of bread, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, son of Simon. 27As soon as Judas took the bread, Satan entered into him. "What you are about to do, do quickly," Jesus told him, 28but no one at the meal understood why Jesus said this to him. 29Since Judas had charge of the money, some thought Jesus was telling him to buy what was needed for the Feast, or to give something to the poor. 30As soon as Judas had taken the bread, he went out. And it was night.

So you see, it's by the will of Jesus (God) that he was actually sacrificed. He could have stopped it any time, and it could have happened in any other place on the world. So by being fully aware that he was about to die, by having planned it before hand, as it was prophesied in the old testament, and by telling Judas to hurry and do what he knew he was going to do, was that murder? No. It was God who guided man to do what was needed to be done to save mankind.

Go back and look at my post at #17. The Jews could have saved Him. How many did Jesus heal from demons and sickness.

[Jo Freddie]

Originally Posted by Lisa H

Go back and look at my post at #17. The Jews could have saved Him. How many did Jesus heal from demons and sickness.

That would not have fitted with the plot of the story the chasers had in mind, the plot was that Jesus and his old man wanted to frame the Jews.