[Redeemed Papist]

Please can one of the wiser scholars in here direct me to a part of the Bible that mentions filthy rugmunching women and what God wants us to do with them?

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Originally Posted by Redeemed Papist

Please can one of the wiser scholars in here direct me to a part of the Bible that mentions filthy rugmunching women and what God wants us to do with them?

Romans 1:26-27: For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

The natural use of women is to be helps meet for men (Genesis 2:18), not to engage in tribadic lezbertarian harlotry. We know that "that which is against nature" is lezbanianism because the inspired author says, "And likewise also" and talks about faggotry.

By applying corrective rape, the men are showing their Christian love and compassion by giving the lezbeans one more chance to repent before they get what they truly deserve, which is death (Romans 1:32).

[Redeemed Papist]

How great is God for giving these godless harlots a way back into His grace?

Perhaps it is necessary to hold these women against their will and repeatedly give them a demonstration of the right way to behave before releasing them gratefully back into the world saved...

I can see why people with more dedication than myself feel driven to take matters into their own hands now. And those secularists would try to twist their so-called ethics to allow the poor women to burn in hell instead! Shameful.

So long as the men marry them in accordance with God's will where is the harm?

Deuteronomy 22:
28If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 29Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

Well they're bound to be virgins, no?

[ToughChic]

I am appalled that you see this as true christian behavior...this totally DEFILES the whole purpose of the life, death and Resurrection of our savior ...to form the new covenant. ONLY GOD can judge ME and my heart. It seems you are so busy condemning others, which violates SO MUCH of the message that Jesus was sent to deliver...and what I see here flies in its face, but you justify it in a most perverse way...that you are ABSOLUTELY BLIND to the multitude of your OWN sins...FOR NO MAN or WOMAN IS WITHOUT SIN...we ALL will pay the price for those sins. YOU may not understand the love inside me...nor do I expect you to understand. I don't even require you to agree. FINE... it is what it is...but this is pure promotion of a ego-driven act of control and violence...RAPE, whether a single act or a repetitive one has never influenced anyone in some delusional fantasy way ("oh my gosh...this is what i've been missing? Now I shall wantonly relive this beautiful experience...and she dances off into the sunset) In fact, it has the exact opposite effect, of reinforcing what YOU see as a choice but I KNOW to be innate. I don't believe in violence against anyone...but I WILL defend myself against anyone who means to try and harm me. I wish peace for you...I have a beautiful life and am blessed in ways you may not be able to imagine. This is the gift of my life and the experience of the humanity that our lord had in mind. and I give the glory to God!

[ToughChic]

oh..I HAVE been saved! Have a blessed day!

[Brother Harold Porter]

Originally Posted by ToughChic

Yap, yap yap.

So you are a lesbainian, my dear? You did read the title of the thread?

How can you possibly call yourself a Christian when you make Jesus weep every time you couple with an anonymous woman in wicked and filthy sin?

If you want to change and become a normal person again, we are here to help. But you must be willing to take the first step and admit that you are scum in the eyes of God as long as you are a dyke.

In Christ

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Originally Posted by ToughChic

I don't believe in violence against anyone...but I WILL defend myself against anyone who means to try and harm me.

God endorses many, many forms of violence, but self-defense is not one of them.

Luke 6:29

King James Version (KJV)

29And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.

[ToughChic]

Explain to me how this volatile "solution" would actually serve to "change" me...or help me?!? Intelligent replies ONLY...please leave your ego in check...that kind of machismo is what keeps people from giving ANY credence to what you say.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by ToughChic

I am appalled that you see this as true christian behavior...

I am appalled that you reject God's Holy Word as a whole and instead have decided to pick and choose which parts you want to follow.

[ToughChic]

I love how you boast being able to "speak your mind" ... but if YOU disagree...even though strong, I kept it general and clean. NO obscenities or personal attacks were made...regardless of the stated view, that your Christian response is to call me childish names, slap me with "infractions" and penalties of points and proceed to lecture me on MORALITY. So I AM THE ONE that picks and chooses what to follow? OK...Perhaps...but HELLO!? POT meet KETTLE! Censor me, banish me, restrict me all you want...just reinforces the hypocrisy you have established on this site. Thanks for nothing. PEACE OUT!

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by ToughChic

- - stuff - - ..of reinforcing what YOU see as a choice but I KNOW to be innate.. etc.

God did not create anyone a sex pervert, which seems to be what you're talking about. Additionally He defines what a sex pervert is. That is where we get our information from. We're not expressing opinions.

Your other comments have gotten me to stop and think - not walk on by. Curious to learn more, keen to read the scripture supporting what you said. Love you to post some.

Hope you see this and respond,

Mitza Lizalor (Miss).

[Missionary in Sweden]

Is it really adultery when either party isn't willing? If it isn't then it wouldn't go against the commandments.

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by DrZoidberg

Is it really adultery when either party isn't willing? If it isn't then it wouldn't go against the commandments.

How do you work that out?

Does it just feel right in your head or are there some scriptural justifications for your morals?

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by Redeemed Papist

How do you work that out?

Does it just feel right in your head or are there some scriptural justifications for your morals?

Zoidberg is reasoning 1 + 1 = 3

3 being the minimum number of parties to adultery

[Missionary in Sweden]

Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor

Zoidberg is reasoning 1 + 1 = 3

3 being the minimum number of parties to adultery

Yes, of course. Thanks, for helping me clear that up. So then a single man can correctively rape a lesbian? No risk for adultery.

What I meant was; sexual intercourse before marriage is of course forbidden. But is corrective rape really sex? Isn't it simply trying to spread God's word and help heal the world? Isn't the "rapist" simply carrying out a form of spiritual healing?

[Catherine Moore]

Originally Posted by ToughChic

Explain to me how this volatile "solution" would actually serve to "change" me...or help me?!? Intelligent replies ONLY...please leave your ego in check...that kind of machismo is what keeps people from giving ANY credence to what you say.

ToughChic, have you actually tried this "volatile "solution""? It seems a little ironic to me that the True Christians of this forum are being constantly accused by all sides of ignoring evidence and science (not, that I've noticed, by you admittedly) but here where there is a solid and testable theory being put forwards by them it is dismissed out of hand.

I'm certainly not saved. I'm trying, but I am not there yet. So it may be that I've misunderstood the situation here, but thats how it seems to me.

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by DrZoidberg

Yes, of course. Thanks, for helping me clear that up. So then a single man can correctively rape a lesbian? No risk for adultery.

What I meant was; sexual intercourse before marriage is of course forbidden. But is corrective rape really sex? Isn't it simply trying to spread God's word and help heal the world? Isn't the "rapist" simply carrying out a form of spiritual healing?

Scripture or all you are posting is meaningless babblings from your own thoughts and who wants to hear those!

[Catherine Moore]

Originally Posted by Redeemed Papist

Scripture or all you are posting is meaningless babblings from your own thoughts and who wants to hear those!

If I could try to help the Doctor here.

Obviously if the rapist is doing so in lust then it is adultery (Matthew 5:27-28 makes no mention of only applying to married men.) And there a are a string of relatives and relatives through marriage that would be prohibited by Leviticus.

I think on balance though the Doctor may be mistaken and that comitting such an act even for good reasons is still a sin Romans 3:8.

Therefore, I believe he would still owe the fifty sheckels and have to take the (hopefully cured) woman as his wife as he cannot avoid the punishment (Proverbs 11:21).

But what do I know? Are there any True Christian scholars able to give advice?

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by Catherine Moore

If I could try to help the Doctor here.

Obviously if the rapist is doing so in lust then it is adultery (Matthew 5:27-28 makes no mention of only applying to married men.) And there a are a string of relatives and relatives through marriage that would be prohibited by Leviticus.

I think on balance though the Doctor may be mistaken and that comitting such an act even for good reasons is still a sin Romans 3:8.

Therefore, I believe he would still owe the fifty sheckels and have to take the (hopefully cured) woman as his wife as he cannot avoid the punishment (Proverbs 11:21).

But what do I know? Are there any True Christian scholars able to give advice?

JUDGES 21:1,16-17,20-23
1 Nowe the men of Israel had sworne in Mizpeh, saying, There shall not any of vs giue his daughter vnto Beniamin to wife..

16 ¶ Then the Elders of the Congregation said, How shall we doe for wiues for them that remaine? seeing the women are destroyed out of Beniamin.
17 And they said, There must be an inheritance for them that bee escaped of Beniamin, that a tribe be not destroyed out of Israel..

20 Therefore they commanded the children of Beniamin, saying, Goe and lie in wait in the vineyards.
21 And see, and behold, if the daughters of Shiloh come out to daunce in daunces, then come yee out of the vineyards, and catch you euery man his wife of the daughters of Shiloh, and goe to the land of Beniamin.
22 And it shall bee when their fathers or their brethren come vnto vs to complaine, that we will say vnto them, Bee fauourable vnto them for our sakes: because we reserued not to each man his wife in the warre: for yee did not giue vnto them at this time, that you should be guiltie.
23 And the children of Beniamin did so, and tooke them wiues according to their number, of them that daunced, whome they caught: and they went and returned vnto their inheritance, and repaired the cities, and dwelt in them.
©1611

In this beautiful example of God's love for those whom He loves and of His provision for the Israelites it is clear that having lain in wait and pounced upon any women of interest that the Benjaminites married them. This pouncing activity cannot in any way be construed as "rape" however much the lesbian community tries to depict God in a negative light. Well, they would wouldn't they. Do note the highlighted sections: there was no complaint from the women themselves mentioned - just the possibility of a token objection from their previous owners.

To the heathen there are so many shades of grey, in all matters it would seem including "forced" marriages. The Bible disagrees. There are no shades of grey tere is only Black. And White. Everything God does is White. Everything else iS Black.

I do not have any comment or opinion to contribute here Miss Moore but hope this simple scripture is helpful to you.

WHOLE CHAPTER HERE

[Catherine Moore]

MitzaLizalor: that simple little passage, to my simple little mind, makes the point perfectly.

Had GOD commanded true believers to attempt to convert lesbians through forced intercourse, it would of course not be rape. As He hasn't, it would and the punishment for doing so must apply.

Thank you so much for sharing that with me. It seems I've overcomplicated the matter (this is what happens when women try logic). I just thank Jesus that he guided me towards the correct solution anyway.