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Default Re: My kids refuse to call me master - 12-18-2011, 02:24 PM

Man you guys are piffleing fruit loops. I hope god kills you all. But that wont happen because there is no god. Hail Allah
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Default Re: My kids refuse to call me master - 12-18-2011, 08:19 PM

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Man you guys are piffleing fruit loops. I hope god kills you all. But that wont happen because there is no god. Hail Allah
God kills us all sooner or later. The difference between you and us is that True Christians™ are going to spend eternity up in Heaven enjoying a cold beer with Jesus, while we laugh at your screams as we watch you suffer unspeakable horrors down in the pits of hell.

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20And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 26And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.


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Default Re: My kids refuse to call me master - 12-19-2011, 06:40 AM

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God kills us all sooner or later. The difference between you and us is that True Christians™ are going to spend eternity up in Heaven enjoying a cold beer with Jesus, while we laugh at your screams as we watch you suffer unspeakable horrors down in the pits of hell.
Amen Pastor Ezekial, very, very well said! Your wisdom is always inspirational & as close to the gospel as it gets. Thank you, just for being YOU! And taking the time out of your busy schedule to share your enlightenment with us!
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Default Re: My kids refuse to call me master - 12-19-2011, 08:45 AM

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Also I must ask does your wife call you Master?
If I were to become the property of a Godly man then I would follow Sarah's example and call my owner my lord (small "l"):

GENESIS 18
12 Therefore Sarah laughed within her selfe, saying, After I am waxed old, shall I haue pleasure, my lord being old also?
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a And the LORD said vnto Abraham, Wherefore did Sarah laugh..
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God is called The Lord (capital "L"), husbands: my lord cf I Corinthians 11:3. That is not any sort of "teaching" or "opinion" from me, it is just the example I would follow.

Friends recommend the panhard rod for children, they say it is very effective. I had to look it up: here's one:
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Default Re: My kids refuse to call me master - 12-19-2011, 12:44 PM

A panhard rod, that's an excellent idea. Reminds me of a few years ago when I was harassed by Asphalt Jungle Indians, a left-wing hooligan group that emptied the air in my tires, because the hate SUV drivers. I caught a 30-year old girl (she was not a real woman at all), 5' tall and 90 lbs, she was thin because she did not eat meat or drinking milk. I worked on her back with my spider-type lug wrench.

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If I were to become the property of a Godly man then I would follow Sarah's example and call my owner my lord (small "l"):

GENESIS 18
12 Therefore Sarah laughed within her selfe, saying, After I am waxed old, shall I haue pleasure, my lord being old also?
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a And the LORD said vnto Abraham, Wherefore did Sarah laugh..
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God is called The Lord (capital "L"), husbands: my lord cf I Corinthians 11:3. That is not any sort of "teaching" or "opinion" from me, it is just the example I would follow.

Friends recommend the panhard rod for children, they say it is very effective. I had to look it up: here's one:
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Default Re: My kids refuse to call me master - 12-19-2011, 10:48 PM

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..my spider-type lug wrench.
I had to look that up too
a lug wrench is …an L-shaped metal rod (apparently it's also called a wheel brace).

A pipe wrench on the other hand: a tool having two toothed jaws, one fixed and the other free to grip pipes and other tubular objects when the tool is turned in one direction only. was unlikely to comply with God's commandment - subject to Pastoral approval - my friend suggested.

Actually, she was not at home yesterday - but her husband was there with another "gentleman" (I am being polite) doing something with their motorbikes, so they had their tools out and were able to show me the difference, which I appreciated. I hope that is helpful.
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Default Re: My kids refuse to call me master - 12-22-2011, 03:00 PM

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I have a sudden problem with my kids: they refuse to call me master. I know that disobedience should be taken care of swiftly, so any help is appreciated.

Spanking on buttocks doesn't help, so maybe I need to discipline them in other ways. I consider boxing the ears, closed fist in back and belly, hot-saucing and forcing them to sleep in a tent in my garden, as Swiss nights are cold this time of the year. Do you think that will work, or do you other ideas?
In my opinion you should hit him round the face until he begins to bleed before kicking him in the ribs. Always worked for me. You could also read him the bible after so he knows what he did was wrong!!
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In my opinion you should hit him round the face until he begins to bleed before kicking him in the ribs. Always worked for me. You could also read him the bible after so he knows what he did was wrong!!
The concern was for what the child had NOT done. You have not quoted any scripture to endorse your somewhat unusual view.
This forum is about recognising God for His tendermercy Psalm 119:156 patricularly regarding the loving discipline of children: it is not about assault.

Proverbe 13:24 He that spareth his rod, hateth his sonne: but he that loueth him, chasteneth him betimes.
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I have a sudden problem with my kids: they refuse to call me master. I know that disobedience should be taken care of swiftly, so any help is appreciated.

Spanking on buttocks doesn't help, so maybe I need to discipline them in other ways. I consider boxing the ears, closed fist in back and belly, hot-saucing and forcing them to sleep in a tent in my garden, as Swiss nights are cold this time of the year. Do you think that will work, or do you other ideas?
How do you expect your children do respect you if you hit them and force them to call you master?

Seriously, they're not slaves to do your bidding. They are people. Living, breathing feeling. And if you do half of the things the people on this thread are saying you should, than you don't deserve to even see your kids.
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How do you expect your children do respect you if you hit them and force them to call you master?

Seriously, they're not slaves to do your bidding. They are people. Living, breathing feeling. And if you do half of the things the people on this thread are saying you should, than you don't deserve to even see your kids.
Where on Earth are you getting your morals from?

If you don't do the right thing by your children
Proverbs 13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
then it's only a matter of time before God will expect you to put them forward for execution.
Deuteronomy 21:18-21
18If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: 19Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; 20And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. 21And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
But I guess little details like that don't matter to people like you.



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How do you expect your children do respect you if you hit them and force them to call you master?

Seriously, they're not slaves to do your bidding. They are people. Living, breathing feeling. And if you do half of the things the people on this thread are saying you should, than you don't deserve to even see your kids.
See, if you were a True Christian you would know what real love is. Spoiling a child by catering to their every whim and sparing their feelings will only give Satan the fertile soil he needs to corrupt them beyond recognition. They will spend an eternity in Hell while we parents sing the praises of God Almighty without them. Not that we'll shed a tear, of course, because being in the presence of God is just too great to be sad, but it would be bad for them. We're not monsters, you know. We love our children dearly.

To the OP, I like to use natural consequences. My children like to eat and they are allowed that privilege only when they can show the proper respect. I would simply lock the children in the back yard where they can watch you and your lovely wife eat in peace with any child who recognizes the privileges you have graciously extended to them. It won't take long before their stomach reminds them of the necessity of proper manners.


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Default Re: My kids refuse to call me master - 12-23-2011, 10:08 PM

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Where on Earth are you getting your morals from?

If you don't do the right thing by your children
Proverbs 13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
then it's only a matter of time before God will expect you to put them forward for execution.
Deuteronomy 21:18-21
18If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: 19Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; 20And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. 21And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
But I guess little details like that don't matter to people like you.
I'm getting them from a little thing called human decency. Ever heard of it? It's a more effective means of morals than the Bible, which is just a book of punishment, sex and lies. Every bible verse you quote seems to be full of those three.

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See, if you were a True Christian you would know what real love is. Spoiling a child by catering to their every whim and sparing their feelings will only give Satan the fertile soil he needs to corrupt them beyond recognition. They will spend an eternity in Hell while we parents sing the praises of God Almighty without them. Not that we'll shed a tear, of course, because being in the presence of God is just too great to be sad, but it would be bad for them. We're not monsters, you know. We love our children dearly.
Now there's something I agree with. Spoiling never leads to any good, but abusing them is not the way to go. And how can you call yourselves parents if you'd let your children, your own flesh and blood, rot in hell just because they didn't obey you?
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If my children ever turned their back on Jesus I hope they burn forever.

I would always hate my children if Jesus asked me to.

Luke 14:26 f any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

They are only my children but Jesus is my savior,

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If my children ever turned their back on Jesus I hope they burn forever.

I would always hate my children if Jesus asked me to.

Luke 14:26 f any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

They are only my children but Jesus is my savior,

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How could you hate your children if some man, who you've never met, never spoken to, and never seen, told you to? You should love them with all your heart, and yet you would give them up for nothing.

So what if he's your savior? They're your children! Nothing is more important then them
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How could you hate your children if some man, who you've never met, never spoken to, and never seen, told you to? You should love them with all your heart, and yet you would give them up for nothing.

So what if he's your savior? They're your children! Nothing is more important then them
Can you back that up with scripture? My children are nothing compared to Jesus and Jesus is God. I can have more children if needed. There is only ONE God.

Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:


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Can you back that up with scripture?

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No, I cannot. Like I've said before, the Bible is nothing but punishment and lies. There's no reason to quote scripture because it has no meaning.
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And how can you call yourselves parents if you'd let your children, your own flesh and blood, rot in hell just because they didn't obey you?
Oh, they wouldn't rot in Hell just because they didn't obey me. God is good and has perfect ways to take care of disobedience. They would rot in Hell for turning their backs on their LORD and Master.


Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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Oh, they wouldn't rot in Hell just because they didn't obey me. God is good and has perfect ways to take care of disobedience. They would rot in Hell for turning their backs on their LORD and Master.
So they're not worthy of your love if they don't serve some mystical being who they've never actually seen or heard of?
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So they're not worthy of your love if they don't serve some mystical being who they've never actually seen or heard of?
Are you suggesting our True Christian mothers don't introduce their children to Jesus from the get go?
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Are you suggesting our True Christian mothers don't introduce their children to Jesus from the get go?
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I'm suggesting that they should be given the choice.
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