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Default Luke the fluffy bunny's intro. - 05-27-2010, 07:04 AM

Your topic, does a sinner deserve this kind of thing? Yes and no. All of us, even those of you running this show, deserve HELL FIRE, myself included. But first, let me remind you all of a little story. Flip over in your Bible to John chapter 8. It says:

"Jesus went unto the mount of Olives. And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them. And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more." -John 8:1-11

Here we see God's love toward fallen, sinful man. Here these people were, about to stone a sinner, and God said "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." How many of YOU have sinned? If you say you haven't, that makes you a liar. The Bible says if you're a liar, you're going to Hell.

"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." -Romans 5:8

"Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust." -Matthew 5:43-45

The thing is, we ALL deserve Hell, because we are ALL sinners. But God is not just a God of wrath and punishment, He is also a God of love and forgiveness. I see people everyday that are headed for Hell, but I remember that I was once that lost person. All Christians were at one point in our lives.

"The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." -2 Peter 3:9

The Lord said He WOULD have vengeance upon the wicked, but He gives them plenty of time to repent. Despite what a lot of people may think, God doesn't want ANYBODY to go to Hell. God loves us so much, that both Hitler and Martin Luther had that same opportunity for salvation. You see many acts of violence in the Old Testament, because that was God's will then. But when you come into the New Testament, everything changes. God is no longer preaching the death penalty, God is preaching forgiveness and repentance. I thank God for being so merciful, that He would forgive a rotten sinner like me, and give me just as much chance to come to know him as the next person.

Now, as for what I've been seeing around here. I have counted more people than my fingers and toes permit, that have rebelled, and gotten turned off to God because of what has been said here. How many people do you think will respond to the gospel by violence, judgement, and hatred? It's like a very true saying I heard once "People don't care what you know, until they know that you care." You are not going to have any luck witnessing to people, unless you show them God's love. Many people think that the devil's greatest weapon is the lost. In reality, the group of people that will be (in part) responsible for sending the most people to Hell, is Christians. That's because when a lost person comes somewhere like here and hears the terms "unsaved trash" and "burn in hell you sinner" do you think they are going to listen to anything positive you have to say??? One last thing,

"For I bear record that they have a zeal [note, Paul is talking about the nation of Israel, but this can be applied to many other people, too] of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth." -Romans 10:2-4

A lot of people on here do have a special kind of zeal, but are ignorant as to what to use it for. Instead of using it to show love and win souls, they are doing the complete opposite, and may very well be dooming many souls to an eternal Hell. These are hard words, I know, but they are not mine. This will probably even get deleted, but I hope that it does help somebody. You will all be in my prayers. God bless you.
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Your topic, does a sinner deserve this kind of thing? Yes and no. All of us, even those of you running this show, deserve HELL FIRE, myself included. But first, let me remind you all of a little story. Flip over in your Bible to John chapter 8. It says:

"Jesus went unto the mount of Olives. And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them. And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more." -John 8:1-11

Here we see God's love toward fallen, sinful man. Here these people were, about to stone a sinner, and God said "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." How many of YOU have sinned? If you say you haven't, that makes you a liar. The Bible says if you're a liar, you're going to Hell.

"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." -Romans 5:8

"Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust." -Matthew 5:43-45

The thing is, we ALL deserve Hell, because we are ALL sinners. But God is not just a God of wrath and punishment, He is also a God of love and forgiveness. I see people everyday that are headed for Hell, but I remember that I was once that lost person. All Christians were at one point in our lives.

"The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." -2 Peter 3:9

The Lord said He WOULD have vengeance upon the wicked, but He gives them plenty of time to repent. Despite what a lot of people may think, God doesn't want ANYBODY to go to Hell. God loves us so much, that both Hitler and Martin Luther had that same opportunity for salvation. You see many acts of violence in the Old Testament, because that was God's will then. But when you come into the New Testament, everything changes. God is no longer preaching the death penalty, God is preaching forgiveness and repentance. I thank God for being so merciful, that He would forgive a rotten sinner like me, and give me just as much chance to come to know him as the next person.

Now, as for what I've been seeing around here. I have counted more people than my fingers and toes permit, that have rebelled, and gotten turned off to God because of what has been said here. How many people do you think will respond to the gospel by violence, judgement, and hatred? It's like a very true saying I heard once "People don't care what you know, until they know that you care." You are not going to have any luck witnessing to people, unless you show them God's love. Many people think that the devil's greatest weapon is the lost. In reality, the group of people that will be (in part) responsible for sending the most people to Hell, is Christians. That's because when a lost person comes somewhere like here and hears the terms "unsaved trash" and "burn in hell you sinner" do you think they are going to listen to anything positive you have to say??? One last thing,

"For I bear record that they have a zeal [note, Paul is talking about the nation of Israel, but this can be applied to many other people, too] of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth." -Romans 10:2-4

A lot of people on here do have a special kind of zeal, but are ignorant as to what to use it for. Instead of using it to show love and win souls, they are doing the complete opposite, and may very well be dooming many souls to an eternal Hell. These are hard words, I know, but they are not mine. This will probably even get deleted, but I hope that it does help somebody. You will all be in my prayers. God bless you.
I'm going to move your fluffy bunny heretical preaching to its own thread.


Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.



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Default Re: Luke the fluffy bunny's intro. - 05-27-2010, 07:20 AM

I am praying for an answer to your questions.


Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.



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Default Re: Luke the fluffy bunny's intro. - 05-27-2010, 07:29 AM

Sir, may I ask,

When people ask you, "Why do you not follow the whole Bible?" what do you normally answer? What is your usual excuse for disobeying your God?

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Default Re: Luke the fluffy bunny's intro. - 05-27-2010, 07:45 AM

@Luke 6:27-28 Welcome! I hope we can become friends!

Since you are new here please look at our please read this before posting and our your rights on this forum threads! There you can learn that this forum is not about debating or unsaved opinions but about praising Jesus!


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Default Re: Luke the fluffy bunny's intro. - 05-27-2010, 08:44 AM

Welcome Luke, how many sons have you got?
Tell me friend, what is your story of redemption?


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: Luke the fluffy bunny's intro. - 05-27-2010, 08:51 AM

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John 8:1-11

Here we see God's love toward fallen, sinful man. Here these people were, about to stone a sinner, and God said "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." How many of YOU have sinned? If you say you haven't, that makes you a liar. The Bible says if you're a liar, you're going to Hell.
You're missing a little context here. When Jesus says in John 8:7, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her," He had not yet died (temporarily) on the cross, taking our sins with Him. We True Christians™ who accept Him and glorify Him by following the entire Bible and not just parts of it are without sin, and if anyone is to cast stones, it is us.

I John 1:7
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.


Yes, even True Christians™ have sinned at some point in their lives before accepting Jesus as our Savior. But take another look at what He tells us in John 8:7 - "He that is without sin among you..." Is. This is the present tense. The verse does not say "He that has never sinned..." This is not open to interpretation. You are twisting Scripture to suit your own preconceived notions, and you are not following the Word as given by God when you do so. True Christians™ are without sin presently, and as blood-bought children of the LORD, indeed we cannot sin!

I John 3:6-9
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Romans 8:33
Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.


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The thing is, we ALL deserve Hell, because we are ALL sinners. But God is not just a God of wrath and punishment, He is also a God of love and forgiveness. I see people everyday that are headed for Hell, but I remember that I was once that lost person. All Christians were at one point in our lives.
I agree with this with one exception... "we are ALL sinners." No. Again, this is the same issue I discussed above. As children of God we cannot sin (I John 6:9, above).

John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:


I John 3:2
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.


Romans 8:14
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.


If you are truly a Christian and you live by the entire Word as given in the KJV 1611 Holy Bible, you too are without sin. But it sounds to me like you are uncertain, and you still feel in your heart that you are a sinner. I don't know you personally, but I suspect that you do not feel Him in your heart because you are given to false doctrine that picks and chooses verses to abide by and follow a false Christ of your own imagination.

Mark 13:22
For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.


Now you strike me as a very earnest man who yearns to seek the face of the LORD. I do not doubt your sincerity. However, I fear that you have been lead astray by false doctrine. It would be good if you tell us more about yourself and your background, since this is your introduction, that we may exhort you to walk the True Path with the LORD and not be led astray into destruction.

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The Lord said He WOULD have vengeance upon the wicked, but He gives them plenty of time to repent. Despite what a lot of people may think, God doesn't want ANYBODY to go to Hell. God loves us so much, that both Hitler and Martin Luther had that same opportunity for salvation. You see many acts of violence in the Old Testament, because that was God's will then. But when you come into the New Testament, everything changes. God is no longer preaching the death penalty, God is preaching forgiveness and repentance. I thank God for being so merciful, that He would forgive a rotten sinner like me, and give me just as much chance to come to know him as the next person.
God's Hands are tied; I understand that. The wages of sin are death; no argument there. However, I could not disagree more about the validity of the Old Testament. The Old Testament has always been valid, and only a false Christian who does not accept the Holy Bible (KJV 1611) as the final authority on all matters of faith and practice would argue otherwise! This is why I fear for your soul!

Malachi 3:6
For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.


James 1:17
Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


John 5:46-47
For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.
But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

Matthew 19:16-17
And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Matthew 5:17-19
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Romans 3:31
Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

II Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

II Peter 1:20-21
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

I could keep going, but I think you get the point. The Old Testament stands. The New Testament tells us so! To argue this point is to call God a liar.

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Now, as for what I've been seeing around here. I have counted more people than my fingers and toes permit, that have rebelled, and gotten turned off to God because of what has been said here. How many people do you think will respond to the gospel by violence, judgement, and hatred? It's like a very true saying I heard once "People don't care what you know, until they know that you care." You are not going to have any luck witnessing to people, unless you show them God's love. Many people think that the devil's greatest weapon is the lost. In reality, the group of people that will be (in part) responsible for sending the most people to Hell, is Christians. That's because when a lost person comes somewhere like here and hears the terms "unsaved trash" and "burn in hell you sinner" do you think they are going to listen to anything positive you have to say???
We are overflowing with True Christian Love™ for the unsaved trash who come here and try to push their wickedness and false doctrines on us and tell us that we are wrong, but as True Christians™, we are protected by the full Armor of God and remain steadfast. Our pure, Christian love is precisely the reason that we rebuke unsaved trash and point out to them that they are spiraling out of control towards the lake of fire!

And yes, there are those who will not receive our message of love because they lack the discernment to recognize our love for what it is. We tell them that they are going to hell if they don't change, and they take it as a personal insult and don't recognize that we are trying to toss them a life preserver from the main deck of the boat to Heaven that we ride. If they would just read and live by the Holy Bible and let Jesus into their hearts, they would realize that we love them and we want them to join us in Heaven! We rebuke them because God tells us to!

II Timothy 4:1-5
I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

If your house was on fire while you slept inside, would you want me to tap on your front door and whisper to you, or would you rather me bust out your bedroom window and yell at the top of my lungs, "WAKE UP! IF YOU DON'T WAKE UP, YOU ARE GOING TO BURN!!!"

If we didn't love and care about you or any of the other unsaved trash who come here in need of rebuking, we wouldn't say a thing to you. We'd just let you continue on to hell, knowing full well that we will be in the bosom of Jesus when we die. But because we love you and the other unsaved trash, we rebuke you forcefully, in hopes that your souls are steered toward Heaven.

And you say we turn people away from Christ? Just tonight, I read at least two testimonies from people who have found or are in the process of finding Salvation™ thanks to Landover Baptist. Sure, some people can't handle the pure unadulterated Biblical Truth we preach. These are false "cafeteria Christians" who want to pick and choose which parts of the Bible they will follow and which pages they will tear out. What would you have us do with such people? We rebuke them, we exhort them, we reprove their false doctrines; we pray for them... oh how we pray. It grieves me as much as you or anyone else that they do not grab hold of the 'life preserver' we toss them, but what are we to do?

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A lot of people on here do have a special kind of zeal, but are ignorant as to what to use it for. Instead of using it to show love and win souls, they are doing the complete opposite, and may very well be dooming many souls to an eternal Hell. These are hard words, I know, but they are not mine. This will probably even get deleted, but I hope that it does help somebody. You will all be in my prayers. God bless you.


What is worse - for us to preach Biblical Truth and save a few souls who are receptive to the message of God, or for us to preach false doctrine, get a lot of followers, but save absolutely nobody?

Matthew 7:13-14
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

To adulterate and edit the Word merely to attract followers would not only do nothing to bring unsaved trash to the LORD; we would indeed be damning ourselves to the lake of fire as well!

Revelation 22:18-19
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

We will continue to promulgate True Christianity™ to His elect. Would we like it if everybody accepted every word of the Bible? Of course. But it is better to help save a few people than to save absolutely nobody.

I will pray for you. Jesus and I love you.


II Thessalonians 1:7-9
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



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Default Re: Luke the fluffy bunny's intro. - 05-27-2010, 01:59 PM

God is Omnipotent. He is ALL-POWERFUL. If He didn't want people to go to hell, people would not go to hell. Period.

And by the way, hell is not the only place non-Christians are tortured. They are also brought up to heaven so Jesus and the Angels get to spend eternity watching the torture:

He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night... - Revelation 14:10-11

Everybody goes to hell, except for 144,000 people:

1Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads. 2And I heard a sound from heaven like the roar of rushing waters and like a loud peal of thunder. The sound I heard was like that of harpists playing their harps. 3And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth - Revelation 14:1-3

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The Lord said He WOULD have vengeance upon the wicked, but He gives them plenty of time to repent.
You're urging procrastination as an evangelism strategy? Lightning doesn't give "plenty of time".

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But when you come into the New Testament, everything changes.
Like in the Book of Revelations?

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God is no longer preaching the death penalty
He is practising it. See Book of Revelations.


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