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Default Who is Allowed to Contact the Dead - 11-09-2019, 07:27 PM

I'm concerned about a "medium" who will be appearing near Freehold soon. She is Theresa Caputo, also called the "Long Island Medium."

The problem with this women is she makes a living communicating with the dead. People pay to see her do this.

Communicating with the dead can be important work. Paul in the Bible had several visits with Jesus after Jesus was dead. We know this happened because Paul wrote about it. Paul's writing would not be the important work in the Bible if he had not first talked to Jesus about the faith. We quote some of Paul's writing here at Landover Baptist--if he had not talked to the dead Jesus I'm not sure we could have as much confidence as we today have.

But, this Caputo woman talks to the dead just to entertain. In doing that is she filling the communication channels with traffic so preachers like ours here at Landover cannot get through either to Jesus or to our own dead people?

I think we need to at least regulate how much time she uses this communication channel she has with the dead. If she is crowding out others who need to talk to the dead she needs to sign off.

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Communicating with the dead can be important work. Paul in the Bible had several visits with Jesus after Jesus was dead. We know this happened because Paul wrote about it. Paul's writing would not be the important work in the Bible if he had not first talked to Jesus about the faith. We quote some of Paul's writing here at Landover Baptist--if he had not talked to the dead Jesus I'm not sure we could have as much confidence as we today have.
But Brother Mr Mayor, Sir, was Jesus not Risen when Paul talked to Him? So He was not (in human terms) dead. When we speak to Jesus, we are not speaking to the dead.

Also, regardless of anything else, the Caputo woman is only a woman. Would celestial communications channels give her calls priority?


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But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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Default Re: Who is Allowed to Contact the Dead - 11-09-2019, 09:41 PM

Well, I think we all remember the fate of King Saul. If he hadn't consulted the witch of Endor to get him in contact with Samuel, God wouldn't have given over his kingdom to David.

1 Samuel 28:3-25

1Chronicles 10:13-14

So Saul died for his transgression which he committed against the Lord, even against the word of the Lord, which he kept not, and also for asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit, to enquire of it;
And enquired not of the Lord: therefore he slew him, and turned the kingdom unto David the son of Jesse.


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But Brother Mr Mayor, Sir, was Jesus not Risen when Paul talked to Him? So He was not (in human terms) dead. When we speak to Jesus, we are not speaking to the dead.
Also, regardless of anything else, the Caputo woman is only a woman. Would celestial communications channels give her calls priority?
Thank you, Sister Joanna. Certainly Jesus had risen when Paul spoke to him. In that sense he was still alive. Those of us here at Landover Baptist will ascend to heaven and live there for eternity so we shall not die either.

However, Jesus was declared dead by the Roman government and we will be declared dead by our government. In my post I was referring to being "dead" in the popular concept of life and death rather than in the real world we of the faith experience.


Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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Default Re: Who is Allowed to Contact the Dead - 11-09-2019, 10:36 PM

Isaiah 8:19; Isaiah 19:3; Leviticus 19:31; Leviticus 20:6; Leviticus 20:27; Deuteronomy 18:10-12; Deuteronomy 26:14; 2 Kings 21:6 1, and Chronicles 10:13 are quite clear on the matter of necromancy.

Ecclesiastes speaks of the pointlessness of listening to the dead.

In Acts 16, Paul was pestered by a lunatic slave girl and cured her of her demons. One might wonder why he did not simply kill her, but if you read the entire chapter, you will see that this was all part of God’s Plan to convert a jailer, who doubtless went on to do great work.




Ec:7:16: Be not righteous over much; neither make thyself over wise: why shouldest thou destroy thyself?

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Grammar Nazi Re: Who is Allowed to Contact the Dead - 11-10-2019, 12:44 PM

I have always been with the understanding that only a Pastor can contact the dead for a parishioner in good standing with the Church. While regular people like you and I can pray (and hope God is willing to listen to us, no matter how much He hates us for being deplorable), a Pastor Like Ezekiel Flint talks with God several times a day, making arrangements, taking instructions. Pastor Flint may ask God to bring a dead person to one of the meetings and arrange for a HCC® (HeavenlyCloudConference). One thing I've learned over the years is that only those that went to Heaven may be brought by God to these conferences. To talk to one in Hell, you'd have to make a pact with Satan. A Fools Folly.

Seriously, some whore from Long Island had Gods' direct number?
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10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.
11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord: and because of these abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
13 Thou shalt be perfect with the Lord thy God.


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Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: Who is Allowed to Contact the Dead - 11-10-2019, 05:31 PM

Greetings!

I am a Black man so of course I am afraid of dead people especially at night but as an intellectual I know that if my own shortcomings prevent I from being everliving I will be reincarnated on Holy Mount Zion in Abyssinia at the moment of my passing and once there I will live in paradise with other reliving Black people. I do not believe that it is possible to talk to dead people at all but please stay away from I if you are doing something like that especially at night. Being around white people is always confusing and perilous for a Black man but sometimes even more so.

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Contacting the dead is a delicate matter that only True Christian™ Pastors (and I think we can all agree that Paul was a True Christian™ Pastor) should be involved in.

1 Samuel 28:5-20 tells us what happens when a person whom God doesn't like calls the dead. Saul broke the law by summoning a witch to call Samuel (1 Samuel 28:7-10). Dead Samuel wasn't happy that Saul was disturbing him (1 Samuel 28:15), and God certainly wasn't happy with Saul in general (1 Samuel 28:17-19). In the light of 1 Samuel 28:6, it can be argued that God was going to doom Saul even before Saul sinned by contracting a witch. Nonetheless, the fact that Saul decided to sin certainly did not help him in the long run. Moral of the story: do not use witches to contact the dead.

1 Samuel 28:5-20
5 And when Saul saw the host of the Philistines, he was afraid, and his heart greatly trembled.
6 And when Saul enquired of the Lord, the Lord answered him not, neither by dreams, nor by Urim, nor by prophets.
7 Then said Saul unto his servants, Seek me a woman that hath a familiar spirit, that I may go to her, and enquire of her. And his servants said to him, Behold, there is a woman that hath a familiar spirit at Endor.
8 And Saul disguised himself, and put on other raiment, and he went, and two men with him, and they came to the woman by night: and he said, I pray thee, divine unto me by the familiar spirit, and bring me him up, whom I shall name unto thee.
9 And the woman said unto him, Behold, thou knowest what Saul hath done, how he hath cut off those that have familiar spirits, and the wizards, out of the land: wherefore then layest thou a snare for my life, to cause me to die?
10 And Saul sware to her by the Lord, saying, As the Lord liveth, there shall no punishment happen to thee for this thing.
11 Then said the woman, Whom shall I bring up unto thee? And he said, Bring me up Samuel.
12 And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried with a loud voice: and the woman spake to Saul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul.
13 And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the earth.
14 And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she said, An old man cometh up; and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul perceived that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed himself.
15 And Samuel said to Saul, Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up? And Saul answered, I am sore distressed; for the Philistines make war against me, and God is departed from me, and answereth me no more, neither by prophets, nor by dreams: therefore I have called thee, that thou mayest make known unto me what I shall do.
16 Then said Samuel, Wherefore then dost thou ask of me, seeing the Lord is departed from thee, and is become thine enemy?
17 And the Lord hath done to him, as he spake by me: for the Lord hath rent the kingdom out of thine hand, and given it to thy neighbour, even to David:
18 Because thou obeyedst not the voice of the Lord, nor executedst his fierce wrath upon Amalek, therefore hath the Lord done this thing unto thee this day.
19 Moreover the Lord will also deliver Israel with thee into the hand of the Philistines: and to morrow shalt thou and thy sons be with me: the Lord also shall deliver the host of Israel into the hand of the Philistines.
20 Then Saul fell straightway all along on the earth, and was sore afraid, because of the words of Samuel: and there was no strength in him; for he had eaten no bread all the day, nor all the night.
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I know that if my own shortcomings prevent I from being everliving I will be reincarnated on Holy Mount Zion in Abyssinia...
Trevor, I don't think it's called Abyssinia any more. The current name is ኢትዮጵያ , pronounced something like Itty-yoppy-yah. I hope you are fluent in their curious tongue? Otherwise, you may have even more trouble making yourself understood there than you do here.


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But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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Contacting the dead is a delicate matter that only True Christian™ Pastors (and I think we can all agree that Paul was a True Christian™ Pastor) should be involved in.
Or you could just use a Oujia board. They can be really fun with enough people. I once tried out a seance in the attic to reach my Uncle who recently died. He owned a three-wheeled car that was blue. I asked outloud how many wheels his car had and it moved to three. I know it was real because none of my friends knew about his car. I think the candle blew a little that night.


Also, once I heard the ghost of my guinea pig squeaking at the window. I wonder if I may have been born psychic.
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Or you could just use a Oujia board. They can be really fun with enough people. I once tried out a seance in the attic to reach my Uncle who recently died. He owned a three-wheeled car that was blue. I asked outloud how many wheels his car had and it moved to three. I know it was real because none of my friends knew about his car. I think the candle blew a little that night.

Also, once I heard the ghost of my guinea pig squeaking at the window. I wonder if I may have been born psychic.
My, how this is so frightfully fascinating, Miss Nettles. I shall put that in my file of Useless Information.

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Rebuke Re: Who is Allowed to Contact the Dead - 11-12-2019, 03:16 PM

I wonder if you have ever romped through urticaria dioica, the plant sharing your name? The Lord blessed us with so much flora and fauna so we should take full advantage of His gifts.

I can assure you that the ouija board is not of His doing and your playful jaunt into the land of necromancy has exposed your soul to demonic forces. Fall on your knees and renounce the devil and his works.


Proverbs 21:31 KJV 1611:
“The horse is prepared against the day of battell: but safetie is of the Lord.”

Lord, may I serve my equine brothers and sisters just as I do my fellow man.
Amen and Amen
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Default Re: Who is Allowed to Contact the Dead - 11-24-2019, 01:41 AM

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I'm concerned about a "medium" who will be appearing near Freehold soon. She is Theresa Caputo, also called the "Long Island Medium."

The problem with this women is she makes a living communicating with the dead. People pay to see her do this.

Communicating with the dead can be important work. Paul in the Bible had several visits with Jesus after Jesus was dead. We know this happened because Paul wrote about it. Paul's writing would not be the important work in the Bible if he had not first talked to Jesus about the faith. We quote some of Paul's writing here at Landover Baptist--if he had not talked to the dead Jesus I'm not sure we could have as much confidence as we today have.

But, this Caputo woman talks to the dead just to entertain. In doing that is she filling the communication channels with traffic so preachers like ours here at Landover cannot get through either to Jesus or to our own dead people?

I think we need to at least regulate how much time she uses this communication channel she has with the dead. If she is crowding out others who need to talk to the dead she needs to sign off.

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