[ἄθεος (without god)]

Originally Posted by Levi Jones

For crying out loud. It's simple. If someone says they don't believe in God, then I can warn them that they are going to hell.

Is that making a judgment? Yes it is, but it's okay. The Bible tells us to do it.

But you are not warning us.

You are just judging us, and telling us that we are going to hell.

"Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven."
- Luke 6.37

[Levi Jones]

Originally Posted by Sheldon the Swede

And have I said that I don't believe in God are have you assumed?

I believe you called yourself an agnostic. You don't believe or disbelieve.
You fall somewhere between hell and hell.

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Revelation 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

[Sheldon the Swede]

Originally Posted by Levi Jones

For crying out loud. It's simple. If someone says they don't believe in God, then I can warn them that they are going to hell.

Is that making a judgment? Yes it is, but it's okay. The Bible tells us to do it.

And one last thing: Even if the Bible says you can judge someone, who is there that qualifies you as the person discribed in the bible to judge other people if they're going to hell?

I can't take the word of anybody seriously without any background. If a person says that you can judge other people, what qualifies him to give you this duty? Actually, to judge other people, you must receive in theorie a Godly message that says that you're a true Christian, not by other people.

[Sheldon the Swede]

Originally Posted by Levi Jones

I believe you called yourself an agnostic. You don't believe or disbelieve.
You fall somewhere between hell and hell.

And you're again taking assuptions, who said I did not believe in God? Who said that I was agnostic person? What do you have that says that I believe, disbelieve God or that I'm a atheist?

[Levi Jones]

Originally Posted by ἄθεος (without god)

But you are not warning us.

You are just judging us, and telling us that we are going to hell.

"Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven."
- Luke 6.37

Dear sweet jumping Jehoshaphat. Didn't we already go over this?

Luke 6 follows the same narrative as Matthew 7 does. It is a prohibition against hypocritical judgment. Look at it in context.

37Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
38Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.
39And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?
40The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
41And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
42Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye.

We are supposed to judge others.

Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

Proverbs 31:9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1st Corinthians 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
1st Corinthians 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

1st Corinthians 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
1st Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
1st Corinthians 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?.
1st Corinthians 6:4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
1st Corinthians 6:5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

2nd Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2nd Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2nd Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2nd Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
2nd Timothy 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

[Sheldon the Swede]

Originally Posted by Levi Jones

Dear sweet jumping Jehoshaphat. Didn't we already go over this?

We are supposed to judge others.

Alright, but who says you're qualified?

[Levi Jones]

Originally Posted by Sheldon the Swede

And you're again taking assuptions, who said I did not believe in God? Who said that I was agnostic person? What do you have that says that I believe, disbelieve God or that I'm a atheist?

Sorry. All you unsaved trash look alike. You were the really clever one who told me I didn't understand sarcasm.

[Levi Jones]

Originally Posted by Sheldon the Swede

Alright, but who says you're qualified?

Are you seriously saying that you couldn't send a murderer to prison? You couldn't judge another? Could you be qualified to judge based on evidence presented to you?

That's how it is for us, but we weigh the evidence based on the Bible.

[ἄθεος (without god)]

Originally Posted by Levi Jones

Dear sweet jumping Jehoshaphat. Didn't we already go over this?

Luke 6 follows the same narrative as Matthew 7 does. It is a prohibition against hypocritical judgment. Look at it in context.

37Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
38Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.
39And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?
40The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
41And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
42Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye.

We are supposed to judge others.

Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

Proverbs 31:9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1st Corinthians 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
1st Corinthians 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

1st Corinthians 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
1st Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
1st Corinthians 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?.
1st Corinthians 6:4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
1st Corinthians 6:5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

2nd Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2nd Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2nd Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2nd Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
2nd Timothy 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

I feel honered to be called the king of Judah
and it clearly says, we should NOT judge others, and all the quotes completely speaks aginst eachother.
and you sir, is the real Hypocrite.

[ἄθεος (without god)]

Originally Posted by Levi Jones

Sorry. All you unsaved trash look alike. You were the really clever one who told me I didn't understand sarcasm.

Again, you are judging others.

[Levi Jones]

Originally Posted by ἄθεος (without god)

and it clearly says, we should NOT judge others,

It clearly says we should not judge each other hypocritically. Hypocritical judgment would be like me telling you that you shouldn't do drugs while smoking a joint.

Nowhere does that verse say we cannot judge.

Originally Posted by ἄθεος (without god)

and all the quotes completely speaks aginst eachother.
and you sir, is the real Hypocrite.

Sorry Sven, your lack of comprehension of the King James is not my fault you weren't born in America.

[ἄθεος (without god)]

Originally Posted by Levi Jones

It clearly says we should not judge each other hypocritically. Hypocritical judgment would be like me telling you that you shouldn't do drugs while smoking a joint.

Nowhere does that verse say we cannot judge.



Sorry Sven, your lack of comprehension of the King James is not my fault you weren't born in America.

It says, clear on paper, in Luke 6.37 that you shall not judge others

and this we can argument about until august.

and you can start telling me that you should only judge them who are hypocritical and all that nonesence, but if thats true, start judging you own baptist churce.

And why are refering to King James?

Jehoshaphat, as you called me before, was the king of Judah from the year 873 - 849 BC.

Buddy, Learn your history before you start agument you don't know SHIT about. Thats hypocrisy.

Oh wait, that right, if it's true YOU don't belive in it...

and GOD damn it, you don't know where i'm born.
I could be born in USA, Europe, Asia, Africa, South America, what difference does it make?

and no its not you "fault",
I'm not ashamed at all.
I'm proud of what i am.

You sir. you are an idiot, you are what is wrong on todays society, you are the pure incarnation of Stupidity.

Now judge me all you can, tell me that i'm going to hell, tell me that i'm unsaved trash and tell me that you are the messenger of god.

I don't care.

[Sheldon the Swede]

Originally Posted by Levi Jones

It clearly says we should not judge each other hypocritically. Hypocritical judgment would be like me telling you that you shouldn't do drugs while smoking a joint.

Nowhere does that verse say we cannot judge.



Sorry Sven, your lack of comprehension of the King James is not my fault you weren't born in America.

It don't has to do with from where you're born, And you ARE judging hypocritically, you say we must go to hell from some reason, but you sinned as well by judging with personnal pleasure, you like punishing people who are different from you.

And you think that I'm qualified to judge someone who has commited a murder? Even I have no right wathsoever to judge that person(even with proof), this has to be done by people of law, by people who have the rights, YOU don't have any right. You can see the proofs in any angle you want, you see the evidence because you WANT to see them.

Even if you say I am a sinner, it should be the least of my concerns, you are the one who says alot of lies and hypocritical arguments.