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Default Re: Genesis crushes silly Big Bang theory - 02-20-2010, 02:33 PM

Isn't there a rather large problem with the Bible? The fact that it was written by humans not God? And what about the Dinosaurs? They are not mentioned in the Bible, maybe because they were only discovered in the 60's and the Bible was written before? I imagine God just forgot to mention them.
Also why is there evil in the world? If God is benevolent then why did he allow evil to flourish? For example the snake that speaks to Adam and Eve, why did God create the snake and allow him to trick Adam and Eve into eating from the tree? Surely if God is omnipotent and omniscient he would know what was going to happen?
Furthermore i dont know if anyone here knows of the Euthyphro Dilemma? Does God command the good because it is good, or is it good because it is commanded by God? If God commands something because it is good it means he is subject to some external standard of good, something more powerful than him. Yet if it is good because God commands it then God can be seen as a dictator, we would then have no free will.
This is a major problem i think you will find.
Finally, Jesus was not "american" as the American State had not been created when he was born. Also someone from Judea would not be blonde with blue eyes, they would look much like the israelis. Also wasn't Jesus a Jew not a christian?
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Default Re: Genesis crushes silly Big Bang theory - 02-21-2010, 08:20 PM

In my ongoing work to witness to the heathen I ran across this absurd bit of "art". God is not amused.
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28 Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.
29 And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.
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Default Re: Genesis crushes silly Big Bang theory - 02-22-2010, 12:34 AM

Hehe. I love science idiots. I had a discussion with one of them recently who used Genesis to attack Christianity.

"Enoch," he asked "Doesn't your silly
Bible say plants were created on the third day?"

"Yes," says I.

"And the sun gave light to the Earth on the fourth day?"
(At this point he had a laughing fit)

"Yes," I responded.

"How could there be plants without light!?"

At this point I was worried he'd cause harm to himself, he laughed so hard he started gasping and choking. Fortunately he came to after only a few seconds of unconsciousness.

"You make a good point," I replied "I'm guessing scientists believe differently?"

"Well, duh" He said.

"So what was the first life on earth like?" I asked.

"Chemosynthetic organisms, the ancestors of plants. They were the first form of life." He smiled and winked at me, apparently glad to relieve my burden of ignorance.

"Not photosynthetic?" I asked "I thought plants were photosynthetic?"

"See, you're a complete idiot" He said to me, laughing "The early Earth had a dense atmosphere much like Saturn's moon Titan has today. No sunlight penetrated to the surface! That's why the first life was chemosynthetic. "

"Ah," I said "So, it was later that the sun's light reached the surface?"

"Of course!" He replied triumphantly, "And thus photosynthesis was born!"

"Very informative," Says I. "So essentially, according to science, plants developed on earth before sunlight reached the surface, right?"

He started laughing, stopped and looked perplexed for a moment, then threw his coffee at me and left.
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Default Re: Genesis crushes silly Big Bang theory - 02-22-2010, 10:10 AM

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That's so stupid! Everyone knows that the Dark Ages started 1500 years ago, and ended 500 years ago. Trust it to evilutionists to teach their children that it was actually 13,5 billion years ago!


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Isn't there a rather large problem with the Bible?
No, the Bible is perfect.

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The fact that it was written by humans not God?
2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"

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Does God command the good because it is good, or is it good because it is commanded by God?
Many false Christians convince themselves, by skipping parts of the Bible, that God only does nice things. This is not the case, God can get very nasty.

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Also wasn't Jesus a Jew not a christian?
He is the son of God. Don't you think it is stupid to suggest Jesus Christ is not a Christian?


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Default Re: Genesis crushes silly Big Bang theory - 02-24-2010, 12:12 AM

oh how much fun is this......the dark ages were between the end of roman occupation in europe (415a.d.) and lasted for around 400 years,2 main reasons,the climate had become colder therefore darker,and the fall of the roman empire led to massive social unrest throughout europe this was seen as a 'dark period' for the continent.

well.....i dont doubt the excistance of jesus as it was historically recorded by the romans on several occasions that he was alive some 2.000 years ago and causing the romans some major problems,however the historical recodrs do not record any miracles occuring nor do they give any account of such happenings.
the big bang....creation,both have major flaws in thier theories,niether can be fully confirmed or denied as niether can provide adequate evidence or proof and are beliefs.
was jesus a christian....simply no,the sect of christianity developed within the hebrew church,Jesus was Jewish. He was born a Jew, lived a Jewish life, taught and read in the synagogue, and was called 'rabbi' by some of his followers. The word 'Christian' refers to the followers of 'the Christ' - the Messiah, the anointed one. Jesus, in this context could not have been a 'Christian' by definition.
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oh how much fun is this......the dark ages were between the end of roman occupation in europe (415a.d.) and lasted for around 400 years,2 main reasons,the climate had become colder therefore darker,and the fall of the roman empire led to massive social unrest throughout europe this was seen as a 'dark period' for the continent.

well.....i dont doubt the excistance of jesus as it was historically recorded by the romans on several occasions that he was alive some 2.000 years ago and causing the romans some major problems,however the historical recodrs do not record any miracles occuring nor do they give any account of such happenings.
the big bang....creation,both have major flaws in thier theories,niether can be fully confirmed or denied as niether can provide adequate evidence or proof and are beliefs.
was jesus a christian....simply no,the sect of christianity developed within the hebrew church,Jesus was Jewish. He was born a Jew, lived a Jewish life, taught and read in the synagogue, and was called 'rabbi' by some of his followers. The word 'Christian' refers to the followers of 'the Christ' - the Messiah, the anointed one. Jesus, in this context could not have been a 'Christian' by definition.
I don't know where you learned your history, but in bible study, we learned that the dark ages was a period of great upheaval, where unrest was caused due to the proliferation of black folks; that is where the name 'dark' ages came from.


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but in bible study, we learned that the dark ages was a period of great upheaval
How weird. When I go to Bible study we always study the actual Bible.


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How weird. When I go to Bible study we always study the actual Bible.
As do we. I'm not sure what our teacher was smoking that day...


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Mrs Rogers! Your post is so true! Also, it has allowed me to do something I have wanted to do for some time – pictures of creation, Now that took me well over ½ an hour and it lacks the perfection of God’s Work, which, let us not forget, was the real thing!

All these scientist write endless tomes on the beginning of the earth, God used two Chapters.

Using Occam’s Razor, which do we choose, the simple version authorized by The Almighty or ever-changing scribblings by deluded men in white coats?

Obvious isn’t it!
Doesn't the Genesis story assume the existence of light is independent of the Sun? In other words, that light for day and night can exist on the Earth without the sun to provide light for the Earth? Where is such an independent source?


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Isn't it obvious? GOD Himself is positively glowing. Glory!

Psalms 89:15: Blessed is the people that know the joyful sound: they shall walk, O LORD, in the light of thy countenance.

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But if that were the case, then why does God seem to be absent when the sun goes down, yet present when the sun goes up. Or, for that matter, why would it seem that all light that we observe (with exception to the stars at night) is either originating from the Sun or reflected from other celestial objects?

Doesn't it seem disingeneous to credit the source of light as being God when it seems evident enough that it's the monstrous fusion reactor of the Sun which is providing it to us?


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But if that were the case, then why does God seem to be absent when the sun goes down, yet present when the sun goes up. Or, for that matter, why would it seem that all light that we observe (with exception to the stars at night) is either originating from the Sun or reflected from other celestial objects?
That is not true. For example, a volcanic eruption or a forest fire gives off light all by itself. Are you stupid?

Anyway, God has withdrawn Himself from the Earth after the Fall of Man. Therefore, it is the sun that is now the major source of light, and the ruler of night and day.

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It is now. It was different during Creation Day 3.

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Default Re: Genesis crushes silly Big Bang theory - 03-08-2010, 12:48 PM

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But if that were the case, then why does God seem to be absent when the sun goes down, yet present when the sun goes up.
That God can be the source of light does not mean he has to be the source of light. It seems to me he delegated that task to the Sun.

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Doesn't it seem disingeneous to credit the source of light as being God when it seems evident enough that it's the monstrous fusion reactor of the Sun which is providing it to us?
The Sun is a huge ball of burning coal. Nuclear fusion is a hoax scientist use to steal our money. As is proven by the fact that no one has ever been able to create a viable fusion reactor.


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Default Re: Genesis crushes silly Big Bang theory - 03-08-2010, 12:50 PM

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But if that were the case, then why does God seem to be absent when the sun goes down, yet present when the sun goes up. Or, for that matter, why would it seem that all light that we observe (with exception to the stars at night) is either originating from the Sun or reflected from other celestial objects?

Doesn't it seem disingeneous to credit the source of light as being God when it seems evident enough that it's the monstrous fusion reactor of the Sun which is providing it to us?
Don't forget about bioluninescence my good friend.



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Default Re: Genesis crushes silly Big Bang theory - 03-08-2010, 04:57 PM

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Don't forget about bioluninescence my good friend.
You glow in the dark? Maybe you should see one of your doctors about that. Or are you claiming you're an "evolutionary step ahead"?


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