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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 07-29-2021, 09:54 AM

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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 07-29-2021, 10:32 AM

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the reason it's big in the sky is because it's over 400 times the size of earth
1. The sun is not big in the sky. It's the same size as the moon.

2. I don't know what astrologist you've been seeing but even by their own standard, 400 is way off. It's very easy to look up. If you did that, this is what you'd find:
EARTH . . 1,083,206,916,846 km³
SUN . . . . 1,412,000,000,000,000,000 km³
3. Simple arithmetic is all that's required, you can probably do it on your device in about 5 seconds.
1,412,000,000,000,000,000 ÷ 1,083,206,916,846 ≈ 1,303,536¾
4. Scientists therefore claim the sun is One million Three hundred and three thousand Five hundred and thirty-six times bigger than the earth.

5. Concerning distances, I can recommend you give up the tarot cards, stop using the ouija board as a calculator and have a look at some decent research from Jack O'Fagan. You will notice he includes EVIDENCE.
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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 07-29-2021, 02:17 PM

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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 07-30-2021, 05:39 AM

James 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.
I thought we were making progress; it's so disappointing when all our hard work is rejected. God doesn't want anyone to be lost but they get on this "horoscopes" stuff and "crystals" even claiming there's special magic energy flowing between the planets, whatever that means, which is supposed to heal them by also passing through lumps of amethyst and, presumably, trees.

ADAIAH BOSCATH

That's how she'd be styled today and back in the 640's BC there were plenty of opportunities to go yarn bombing. This appalling waste of resources that could have been used to clothe a starving baby is outright idolatry. After the celestial energy passes through stars and planets and amethysts it comes up through the trees, empowering yarn bombs to become magic shawls for witches. Such groves of wickedness were not unknown to Adaiah Boscath and she taught her daughter wisely.

Jedidah, the daughter, must have been invited. “Yo, Jeddy, coming along to this evening's debauch? They've got some new drums!” and we don't need to elaborate what happens during sunset with throbbing drumbeats, glistening bodies prancing around like demented gibbons, “Whoooops! Didn't see you there ..you weren't hiding were you?” [looks embarrassed] "Why don't you come over here into this coppice with me?” and so on. That was never what God intended when He made the sun as Jedidah well knew. She stayed home helping Adaiah Boscath, learning important lessons for bringing up her son.
II Kings 22:1; 23:5, 7, 14 Josiah was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned thirty and one years in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Jedidah, the daughter of Adaiah of Boscath … And he put down the idolatrous priests, whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense in the high places in the cities of Judah, and in the places round about Jerusalem; them also that burned incense unto Baal, to the sun, and to the moon, and to the planets, and to all the host of heaven … And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove … And he brake in pieces the images, and cut down the groves, and filled their places with the bones of men.
That's what happened when people misconstrued God's purpose for the sun; what else they dreamed up is anyone's guess and it's something of a moot point considering its distance because there's enough current nonsense to keep everyone busy refuting lies.

And lies they have always been. Let's say it began when Thales and Pythagoras invented triangles, approximately the same time as Josiah. This would be like Queen Victoria seeing the beginning of steam railways [1825] but not the later development [1914] of diesel. They were still trains, obviously, and they were still triangles. In that way, adjacent pagan ideas began to challenge God – and there were plenty of cross-cultural influences if all those imported goddesses are any indication. One such affront concerns celestial distances.

Nothing contradicting God can ever be true. This seems such a simple principle, that the Creator would know all about universes He created, which secular minds are unable to grasp. They come in with so-called science that they haven't even read trying to refute God but let's face it, once He's been rejected how can understanding of what passes for knowledge ever lead to wisdom? Adaiah Boscath knew that, her daughter knew that too. I'm sure growing up that Josiah knew both of them and that they encouraged him to understand God. And when his opportunity came he showed true wisdom, the source of his humility, as his actions show.



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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 07-30-2021, 07:19 AM

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1. The sun is not big in the sky. It's the same size as the moon.

2. I don't know what astrologist you've been seeing but even by their own standard, 400 is way off. It's very easy to look up. If you did that, this is what you'd find:
EARTH . . 1,083,206,916,846 km³
SUN . . . . 1,412,000,000,000,000,000 km³
3. Simple arithmetic is all that's required, you can probably do it on your device in about 5 seconds.
1,412,000,000,000,000,000 ÷ 1,083,206,916,846 ≈ 1,303,536¾
4. Scientists therefore claim the sun is One million Three hundred and three thousand Five hundred and thirty-six times bigger than the earth.
Sister I can confirm this is accurate from my own independent measurements of the velocity. They both travel at about the same speed through the sky so if the Sun was in an orbit so much farther away it would be traveling at a significant fraction of the speed of light. It would release Cerenkov radiation as it circled the Earth in a gravitational lock, losing energy and descending into the ocean within a matter of days. This obviously has not happened.


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Jesus Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 08-10-2021, 12:44 PM

I may not be as educated as many a religious PhD doctor is but some things are just plain obvious
A half dollar is larger than a penny. The Earth is huge, the sun, a small dot in the sky, like a light bulb.
If the sun were millions of miles away, you'd never see it. Think of all the cars driving around at night. Do you see all the headlights? You only see those that are close to you. Logic (a science word) therefore states the sun too, must be close. Driving back from Vegas at night, I 'might' see a car lights 50 miles out. I have to figure the sun is more powerful than that, more like a stadium light. So an educated theory (more sciencey talk) is that the sun is 100 to 200 miles away.
Occams Razor states the simplest answer is usually the correct one. I put forth to anyone to be more simple.
God made things to be simple and comforting for us. He gives us light to work in and dark to sleep with.


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
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Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 06-15-2022, 11:20 PM

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1. The sun is not big in the sky. It's the same size as the moon.

2. I don't know what astrologist you've been seeing but even by their own standard, 400 is way off. It's very easy to look up. If you did that, this is what you'd find:
EARTH . . 1,083,206,916,846 km³
SUN . . . . 1,412,000,000,000,000,000 km³
3. Simple arithmetic is all that's required, you can probably do it on your device in about 5 seconds.
1,412,000,000,000,000,000 ÷ 1,083,206,916,846 ≈ 1,303,536¾
4. Scientists therefore claim the sun is One million Three hundred and three thousand Five hundred and thirty-six times bigger than the earth.

5. Concerning distances, I can recommend you give up the tarot cards, stop using the ouija board as a calculator and have a look at some decent research from Jack O'Fagan. You will notice he includes EVIDENCE.
https://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=64656
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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 06-16-2022, 04:32 PM

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As has already been pointed out, objects of the same size can pass in front of one another at the same distance but when one is millions of miles more distant the problem of velocity arises. God, however, has not told us the exact distance of The Firmament so it could be millions of miles or millions of feet. The effect would be the same, viewed from here.

The model using painted balls could be done under my lemon tree on a windy day with one lemon passing by another and more importantly would have worked just the same on any fruit tree before the sun or moon existed! I'm not sure whether they were old enough to have lemons though but probably they were. So lemons or leaves (or apples or figs) could pass by one another and the idea of suns and moons would never occur to anyone, because neither of them existed!

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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 06-16-2022, 05:02 PM

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Nice swing. That one went far. How many of the audience went to Heaven or Hell?


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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 06-16-2022, 06:18 PM

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1. The sun is not big in the sky. It's the same size as the moon.

2. I don't know what astrologist you've been seeing but even by their own standard, 400 is way off. It's very easy to look up. If you did that, this is what you'd find:
EARTH . . 1,083,206,916,846 km³
SUN . . . . 1,412,000,000,000,000,000 km³
3. Simple arithmetic is all that's required, you can probably do it on your device in about 5 seconds.
1,412,000,000,000,000,000 ÷ 1,083,206,916,846 ≈ 1,303,536¾
4. Scientists therefore claim the sun is One million Three hundred and three thousand Five hundred and thirty-six times bigger than the earth.

5. Concerning distances, I can recommend you give up the tarot cards, stop using the ouija board as a calculator and have a look at some decent research from Jack O'Fagan. You will notice he includes EVIDENCE.
https://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=64656
Yes, it does appear the same size, only because it's 400x away as well.
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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 06-17-2022, 11:26 AM

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Yes, it does appear the same size, only because it's 400x away as well.
I assume you're referring to this post, "it" being the sun.

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the reason it's big in the sky is because it's over 400 times the size of earth
We've already seen a demonstration of Doctor Toole's refutation in that hammer throw. She did a good job apparently, according to Roland – but there was no Cherenkov radiation. I do not engage in sporting activities myself so I'll take his word for it.

Moving on to your latest claim, well, that's already been refuted too. I particularly went out of my way to look up some secularist material demonstrating that the sun is supposedly 1,303,536¾ times the size (which is, admittedly, over 400x) [highlighted, above] but your problem then is that it would need to be 1,303,536¾ x more distant. If on the other hand you're saying the sun is 400x the size of the earth but appears the same size, that is patently untrue.

I appreciated your posting an eclipse link, in another post, which also bears on this point so I'll continue from there.


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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 06-17-2022, 11:27 AM

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Hi!Thanks for that link. As we've already seen, just because the moon passed in front of the sun sometimes would not mean it was any more distant.

EXAMPLE 1 — Lego



As you can see, these objects are unable to move through one another. Either they slither around the sides or they get stuck. Clearly this does not apply to the sun and moon because when they stopped moving, it was not due to being stuck against one another. How do we know? Simple: they were in different parts of the sky.

EXAMPLE 2 — Coin Pusher



Here we see objects that can be in very similar positions. They don't get stuck but slide under or over one another. I used a coin earlier as an example of roundness in another thread [linked (RIGHT)] and this better represents what could happen during an eclipse. The problem for you, though, is when the sun passes in front of the moon. They still both appear the same size but we can't see the moon. Just like those coins. I'm not saying the sun and moon couldn't pass through one another but obviously when one obscures the other that's not what happens.

I hope that's helpful for you.
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